Re: DIRECTOR
Stand by. Let me think about the best approach.
Stand by. Let me think about the best approach.
Who want to be part of action team
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Monica and Arvind, please comment.
Re: Re: Spread sheet
Our firm used to own a project management software that would be perfect for this. Let me renew the license on that and have it installed. Let me see. stand by. I will report back.
Our firm used to own a project management software that would be perfect for this. Let me renew the license on that and have it installed. Let me see. stand by. I will report back.
Could this be used as a point of argument in the lawsuit against USCIS?
If you look at the numbers 40,000 per year for EB-1, 2 and 3 (see attached pdf file).
I believe refugees recently won a lawsuit saying that they had a 10,000 per year limit and that the CIS issued visas much lower than the limit.
In our case I assume that CIS did not issue visas to meet these limits. There might be other ramifications if we press with this issue.
I got this from
http://www.ilw.com/lawyers/immigdaily/
Employer Bulleting Information on Employment Based Permanent Residence. which was issued recently by CIS.
If you look at the numbers 40,000 per year for EB-1, 2 and 3 (see attached pdf file).
I believe refugees recently won a lawsuit saying that they had a 10,000 per year limit and that the CIS issued visas much lower than the limit.
In our case I assume that CIS did not issue visas to meet these limits. There might be other ramifications if we press with this issue.
I got this from
http://www.ilw.com/lawyers/immigdaily/
Employer Bulleting Information on Employment Based Permanent Residence. which was issued recently by CIS.
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Debates - my 2 cents on the issue
Just to get started on the process of coming up with a consensus on various issues:
Sample debating topics :
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1) Are we going to suggest any minimum amount for contributions from the people in this forum ?
I would say no formally, but informally keep an informal reference sheet open. (like restaurant bills that precalculate tip amounts to 10% - 15% - 20% - for your convinience). We should try to create awareness and show people where the money is going and how it will be spelt. Not to mention the benefit they will receive from their funds. The rest we should leave to them. Coerciveness of imposed contributions will limit the final amount collected and every penny counts.
2) What is our top most priority (once we collect funds) ?
Our key focus should be legislative action, Budgets come up for renewal every year, legal action takes time. A friendly nudge and a wink by the appropriations committee to the Director of INS will go much further that legal threats. INS top brass is all lawyers in any case.
That being said, I would support a strong show of force to Congressmen and Senators and try to win them to our sides.
3) How is our team going to take final decisions ?
We live in a democracy so need to behave like one. Voting is the way to go, after discussion and case presentations.
4) How are we going to function as a team ? Is it just by exchanging postings in this forum Or teleconference sessions or regional meetings ? In case of regional meetings, we need regional coordinators. We also need to appoint some people as convenors for different actions (yjay for finance, edison for general actions, xxxxx for legal actions, yyyy for meeting congress men, zzzzz for organizing debates etc).
This will grow and grow fast/big if it needs to succeed. Nothing beats teleconferencing or face to face meetings if required. A good start would be to get a group going (like yahoo groups), where we can directly communicate via email.
It is very essential that this process be transparent, since the majority of the money will come from other portal users, so a strict log/minutes need to be kept. If necessary, we should host it on a website (we should ask Rajiv if he can lend us a small wing of the bigger Immigration.com portal). Periodically have polls, etc. to make sure we are carrying the weight of the entire community with us. The committee shouldn't run away on its own but stick to very narrow parameters, defined PRIOR to accepting money from the community.
Just wanted to get some thoughts out there for people to chew and comment on. We need to get started with organizing, while at the same time continuing with our fax/email/town hall campaigns. This is a priority! We need to be ready to pick up the ball once Rajiv gives us the go ahead on the non-profit organization and Money account. We have to be ready and discussion is the only way to go. So let us get started!
Just to get started on the process of coming up with a consensus on various issues:
Sample debating topics :
-------------------------------
1) Are we going to suggest any minimum amount for contributions from the people in this forum ?
I would say no formally, but informally keep an informal reference sheet open. (like restaurant bills that precalculate tip amounts to 10% - 15% - 20% - for your convinience). We should try to create awareness and show people where the money is going and how it will be spelt. Not to mention the benefit they will receive from their funds. The rest we should leave to them. Coerciveness of imposed contributions will limit the final amount collected and every penny counts.
2) What is our top most priority (once we collect funds) ?
Our key focus should be legislative action, Budgets come up for renewal every year, legal action takes time. A friendly nudge and a wink by the appropriations committee to the Director of INS will go much further that legal threats. INS top brass is all lawyers in any case.
That being said, I would support a strong show of force to Congressmen and Senators and try to win them to our sides.
3) How is our team going to take final decisions ?
We live in a democracy so need to behave like one. Voting is the way to go, after discussion and case presentations.
4) How are we going to function as a team ? Is it just by exchanging postings in this forum Or teleconference sessions or regional meetings ? In case of regional meetings, we need regional coordinators. We also need to appoint some people as convenors for different actions (yjay for finance, edison for general actions, xxxxx for legal actions, yyyy for meeting congress men, zzzzz for organizing debates etc).
This will grow and grow fast/big if it needs to succeed. Nothing beats teleconferencing or face to face meetings if required. A good start would be to get a group going (like yahoo groups), where we can directly communicate via email.
It is very essential that this process be transparent, since the majority of the money will come from other portal users, so a strict log/minutes need to be kept. If necessary, we should host it on a website (we should ask Rajiv if he can lend us a small wing of the bigger Immigration.com portal). Periodically have polls, etc. to make sure we are carrying the weight of the entire community with us. The committee shouldn't run away on its own but stick to very narrow parameters, defined PRIOR to accepting money from the community.
Just wanted to get some thoughts out there for people to chew and comment on. We need to get started with organizing, while at the same time continuing with our fax/email/town hall campaigns. This is a priority! We need to be ready to pick up the ball once Rajiv gives us the go ahead on the non-profit organization and Money account. We have to be ready and discussion is the only way to go. So let us get started!
The incorporation package is ready for my review
I will look it over tmorrow and get the ball rolling on the incorporation.
I will look it over tmorrow and get the ball rolling on the incorporation.
Re: Re: DIRECTOR
I am having another complete petition with our signatures sent to the director. Will follow it up with a phone call. Remind me next Wednesday. Homa, note this on my calendar.
I am having another complete petition with our signatures sent to the director. Will follow it up with a phone call. Remind me next Wednesday. Homa, note this on my calendar.
Web Project Management Software Has Been installed
After some thought, I chose PHProjekt. Rejected our existing SW.
Here are the features
http://www.phprojekt.com/features.php
There is a demo on their web site. I would like 3-4 of you to recieve admin rights. Please choose and send me an e-mail.
I think this will do for now.
Go!!! Team.
After some thought, I chose PHProjekt. Rejected our existing SW.
Here are the features
http://www.phprojekt.com/features.php
There is a demo on their web site. I would like 3-4 of you to recieve admin rights. Please choose and send me an e-mail.
I think this will do for now.
Go!!! Team.
Originally posted by or1or2 in TSC
For action team and oprations;
can we send our pitition to the media in similar fashion? or atleast can we make link to the site and post our pitition on the site and all the willing members of this forum can sign it?
For action team and oprations;
can we send our pitition to the media in similar fashion? or atleast can we make link to the site and post our pitition on the site and all the willing members of this forum can sign it?
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Use the existing petition
Use the existing petition. Do not dilute your visitors interest by starting multiple sites. Feel free to take out reference to immigrationportal.com. Just call it an online community or something anonymous.
Be wary of inviting lawyers to join in. We have our place in the scheme of things. But most of us care only about getting our name out there. There are some good, honest, well meaning lawyers out there (speaking statistically, there must be). I am yet to meet them. Sound cynical? Well, that is the truth. You are the real force.
My motivation: I need nothing from you. My belly is full. I totally and completely love my profession and admire many (certainly not all
) of you out there, our friends, clients, acquaintaces. I do it because I do it. No deeper motivation (as far as I know myself, Freud might have a different opinion).
So DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT. But be smart about it. The hard part is SUSTAINING the effort. I have built several grassroot efforts under most exacting circumstances. The burn out rate of participants is high if efforts are not properly coordinated and shared. Lighting the fire is easy, keeping it lit is the real challenge. So conceptualize, organize and above all, work together people.
PS Sorry if I sound like I am lecturing. Just focusing your attention.
Use the existing petition. Do not dilute your visitors interest by starting multiple sites. Feel free to take out reference to immigrationportal.com. Just call it an online community or something anonymous.
Be wary of inviting lawyers to join in. We have our place in the scheme of things. But most of us care only about getting our name out there. There are some good, honest, well meaning lawyers out there (speaking statistically, there must be). I am yet to meet them. Sound cynical? Well, that is the truth. You are the real force.
My motivation: I need nothing from you. My belly is full. I totally and completely love my profession and admire many (certainly not all
) of you out there, our friends, clients, acquaintaces. I do it because I do it. No deeper motivation (as far as I know myself, Freud might have a different opinion).So DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT. But be smart about it. The hard part is SUSTAINING the effort. I have built several grassroot efforts under most exacting circumstances. The burn out rate of participants is high if efforts are not properly coordinated and shared. Lighting the fire is easy, keeping it lit is the real challenge. So conceptualize, organize and above all, work together people.
PS Sorry if I sound like I am lecturing. Just focusing your attention.
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Re: Use the existing petition
Rajiv,
Thanks for your support to this community, we really appreciate it.
Originally posted by operations
Use the existing petition. Do not dilute your visitors interest by starting multiple sites. Feel free to take out reference to immigrationportal.com. Just call it an online community or something anonymous.
Be wary of inviting lawyers to join in. We have our place in the scheme of things. But most of us care only about getting our name out there. There are some good, honest, well meaning lawyers out there (speaking statistically, there must be). I am yet to meet them. Sound cynical? Well, that is the truth. You are the real force.
My motivation: I need nothing from you. My belly is full. I totally and completely love my profession and admire many (certainly not all
So DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT. But be smart about it. The hard part is SUSTAINING the effort. I have built several grassroot efforts under most exacting circumstances. The burn out rate of participants is high if efforts are not properly coordinated and shared. Lighting the fire is easy, keeping it lit is the real challenge. So conceptualize, organize and above all, work together people.
PS Sorry if I sound like I am lecturing. Just focusing your attention.
Rajiv,
Thanks for your support to this community, we really appreciate it.
Re: Use the existing petition
Thanks, Rajiv. We appreciate all your help.
To All,
Let's forget about posting the petition on other sites and let's focus on gathering more support.
Originally posted by operations
Use the existing petition. Do not dilute your visitors interest by starting multiple sites. Feel free to take out reference to immigrationportal.com. Just call it an online community or something anonymous.
Be wary of inviting lawyers to join in. We have our place in the scheme of things. But most of us care only about getting our name out there. There are some good, honest, well meaning lawyers out there (speaking statistically, there must be). I am yet to meet them. Sound cynical? Well, that is the truth. You are the real force.
My motivation: I need nothing from you. My belly is full. I totally and completely love my profession and admire many (certainly not all
So DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT. But be smart about it. The hard part is SUSTAINING the effort. I have built several grassroot efforts under most exacting circumstances. The burn out rate of participants is high if efforts are not properly coordinated and shared. Lighting the fire is easy, keeping it lit is the real challenge. So conceptualize, organize and above all, work together people.
PS Sorry if I sound like I am lecturing. Just focusing your attention.
Thanks, Rajiv. We appreciate all your help.
To All,
Let's forget about posting the petition on other sites and let's focus on gathering more support.
Re: Re: Use the existing petition
Edison,
It has not to be the actual petition posted here and there. We should try get the message across a wider audience. We can post messages referring to this web site, pop-ups and things like that. How about ethnic sites, etc. Take a look at the volunteers, they are all great guys but they all belong to same group. Where are the Hispanics,the Philippinos, the Chinese, the Canadians, etc.
our group is monolithic. On a statistical basis, maybe it is justified. i.e. 50-75% of applications are from Indian origin people?? Maybe a bit less. A more inclusive team will benefit all, as I am a bit disappointed with the ATTITUDE of a lot of the folks on this forum.
Edison,
It has not to be the actual petition posted here and there. We should try get the message across a wider audience. We can post messages referring to this web site, pop-ups and things like that. How about ethnic sites, etc. Take a look at the volunteers, they are all great guys but they all belong to same group. Where are the Hispanics,the Philippinos, the Chinese, the Canadians, etc.
our group is monolithic. On a statistical basis, maybe it is justified. i.e. 50-75% of applications are from Indian origin people?? Maybe a bit less. A more inclusive team will benefit all, as I am a bit disappointed with the ATTITUDE of a lot of the folks on this forum.
Re: Re: Re: Use the existing petition
Do your very best. Forget about other people. Try to build consensus but let not the lack of it dishearten you. I know one passionate person can make a world of difference.
I sound like a frortune cookie.
Do your very best. Forget about other people. Try to build consensus but let not the lack of it dishearten you.
I know one passionate person can make a world of difference. I sound like a frortune cookie.Re: Use the existing petition
Thank you for your leadership and direction Mr. Khanna. Hope to see the light soon at the end of this long tunnel.I mean it for every one on this forum under your leadership and kind guidence.
Originally posted by operations
Use the existing petition. Do not dilute your visitors interest by starting multiple sites. Feel free to take out reference to immigrationportal.com. Just call it an online community or something anonymous.
Be wary of inviting lawyers to join in. We have our place in the scheme of things. But most of us care only about getting our name out there. There are some good, honest, well meaning lawyers out there (speaking statistically, there must be). I am yet to meet them. Sound cynical? Well, that is the truth. You are the real force.
My motivation: I need nothing from you. My belly is full. I totally and completely love my profession and admire many (certainly not all
So DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT. But be smart about it. The hard part is SUSTAINING the effort. I have built several grassroot efforts under most exacting circumstances. The burn out rate of participants is high if efforts are not properly coordinated and shared. Lighting the fire is easy, keeping it lit is the real challenge. So conceptualize, organize and above all, work together people.
PS Sorry if I sound like I am lecturing. Just focusing your attention.
Thank you for your leadership and direction Mr. Khanna. Hope to see the light soon at the end of this long tunnel.I mean it for every one on this forum under your leadership and kind guidence.
Call me Rajiv
"Mr. Khanna" creates a separation between us that is unnecessary. I am no leader (not if I have a choice). I am, I hope, a firend of the community and of your efforts.
I still need to know who among you want to be the adminstrator of the project management software we have installed.
"Mr. Khanna" creates a separation between us that is unnecessary. I am no leader (not if I have a choice). I am, I hope, a firend of the community and of your efforts.
I still need to know who among you want to be the adminstrator of the project management software we have installed.
Call me Rajiv
"Mr. Khanna" creates a separation between us that is unnecessary. I am no leader (not if I have a choice). I am, I hope, a firend of the community and of your efforts.
My motivation: I need nothing from you. My belly is full. I totally and completely love my profession and admire many (certainly not all) of you out there, our friends, clients, acquaintaces. I do it because I do it. No deeper motivation (as far as I know myself, Freud might have a different opinion).
I kiss your hands Rajiv.
"Mr. Khanna" creates a separation between us that is unnecessary. I am no leader (not if I have a choice). I am, I hope, a firend of the community and of your efforts.
My motivation: I need nothing from you. My belly is full. I totally and completely love my profession and admire many (certainly not all
) of you out there, our friends, clients, acquaintaces. I do it because I do it. No deeper motivation (as far as I know myself, Freud might have a different opinion). I kiss your hands Rajiv.
Vote for Edison
Thanks, Rajiv. We appreciate all your help.
I vote for Edison...
Edison or who ever access that phpprojkt.com s/w ,
Could you please check to see is there any way we can enter all Senators and congressman information in that software?...
I think we can keep sending emails to this address. This is USDOJ and Attorney Journal email
AskDOJ@usdoj.gov.
Thanks
Srini
Thanks, Rajiv. We appreciate all your help.
I vote for Edison...
Edison or who ever access that phpprojkt.com s/w ,
Could you please check to see is there any way we can enter all Senators and congressman information in that software?...
I think we can keep sending emails to this address. This is USDOJ and Attorney Journal email
AskDOJ@usdoj.gov.
Thanks
Srini
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