Originally posted by karma_yoga
I am willing to participate in core action team, if it is alright with the group.
The “ultimate cause” for which we unite is much bigger than any individual, any website, any forum and any thread.
Thoughts on some key points:
1. I wish we should have equal participation from 4 service centers, men and women.
2. Currently we have 2 action items to work on for the core team. One is Project Ocean and other is Law suite.
3. What needs to be done is almost defined for “Project Ocean”. We have step by step action plan what to do for Project Ocean. The effort needs to be replicated in each congressional district, under a common banner.
4. Project Ocean do not need any permission/consultation from company for which we work or the law office who is processing our Green card stages.
5. Law suite is a very good idea to get “attention”. Personally I doubt if it can give us green cards just because we sued. But still “Good visibility” should be our first aim if it can deliver.
6. Very important: Will we get good publicity or bad one? The last thing we want at this time is wrong attention. Looking at the current situation of outsourcing and hatred towards us, I personally do not think, Law suite will give us good attention at *This time*. We need our efforts to be seen by *right people*. At this stage, I believe, face to face interaction with 435 congressman and 100 senators we should focus on. They understand our issues. My guess is, they will work with us if we approached them face to face, under a common banner, showing our unity. I doubt if they will favor us in their “public speeches”. But we should read and listen *through* the speech and not around it.
7. We have to set priority for law suite or pushing project Ocean. I think law suite is what we ourselves “deserve” at personal level. We have been neglected, and we deserve justice. But think for a moment out of self. Will that be good for the *ultimate cause* for which we unite?
8. Illegal employees of Walmart are suing. That may be good for them. They have nothing to loose at this stage, even if they attract bad publicity. But we have.
9. The law suite may give a good publicity to some law firm and lawyers. But As I said earlier, the “ultimate cause” for which we unite is much bigger than anything.
10. Collecting money is just 1 % of the job. Generally we have tendency to think that, once I paid, I did my job. Paying relieves us from that sense of social responsibility which has driven us so far till this core action team. This is America. Everybody has money. And anybody can sue anybody. But how many grass root organizations do we have with well knit network of volunteers to work with every decision makers of the congress?
11. My understanding is “Law suite” course of action will need some sort of approval from the company for which we work and from the law company who is processing our green card. We need to find out that *requirement* first before we start collecting funds for law suite. In our own best self interest, we should follow the advice of the company and HR on this requirement. Remember, First we have to take care of our self and our family. If we fail at that family front, we can not help any cause.
12. The politics understand MONEY and VOTE. Money we can give only after
Green Card. ( Rule for political contribution). Vote we can give only after
Citizenship. Project Ocean instantly creates both these interests in a politician.
We get instant *good attention*. The unity highlights that we are demanding and
not begging.
These are my opinions. I will give my best efforts for any course of action that this team decides.
Karma_Yoga
From 13th District of California.
Karma_Yoga,
Some of your points are legit: Wrt points 4 and 11. This is an interesting situation. I work for a company like no other..I actually pushed them, questioned them, challenged them, ignored them, and always answered back to them. The result is a not so good relationship between myself the HR, the Legal and the immigration attorney. The company delayed my application for about six months and the lawyer added another two months as a gift. So speaking up has a price to pay..I paid that price in more ways than one. My manager gave me an appraisal based on my beliefs and stands not my work performance. The only thing left for them is to lay me off but they still need my skills..six months of searching within the USA and the company of 150,000 people resulted in nothing.
So to make the story short (already long) and some like it very short and provide some insight, YES we have to investigate the COmpany factor and the Lawyer who handles our GC. The good thing is that a majority of people thankfully do not work for a Defense company. Here is a sample of what I get from Legal..
Communication between CINTA and the LEGAL DEPARTMENT OF XXXXXX. Legal had read the article in the paper.
Actually I was interviewed by the Inquirer (see article attached). I do not even how they found my phone number (listed). From yesterday they called my house and this morning PennDot arranged a conference call with the Norristown DMV Director , promising me to call him in advance and go again with the papers (no need to wait in line) including the letter of employment, which I said it may take a few days. They wanted to call the company themselves for it, but I said I could handle it! I do not know if it is the fourth article or something else but I was impressed.
In fact I contacted the Inquirer about the Immigration backlogs and the Government policy and one thing led to another. The reporter I met is a Greek-American which I could tell from her name before I met her. Now this brings us to the following question. As almost nobody can do anything about my GC application, I intend to utilise similar techniques and see where I can go. What I would like to ask you beforehand is "the ground rules". I may initiate contacts with the Press and Congress and push this problem also. Please advise beforehand and I will follow any company rules. Thanks a lot, XXXX
You requested guidance on "the ground rules" for your personal plan to contact US Government officials about the long time for processing your application for permanent resident status (green card).
Employees are free to contact US Government officials about personal matters. CPS-004, Political Activity, section 1.0 encourages employees to participate in the political process, but "employees must understand, however, that their involvement and participation must be on an individual basis, on their own time, and at their own expense".
If you decide to contact INS or Congress about this, you can do so as an individual and as a personal matter but you cannot represent it as being in behalf of XXXXXXXX or leave the person with the mistaken impression that you are doing it in behalf of XXXXXXXX. If you elect to contact someone about this, you are doing this because you personally want them to do something for you, not because XXXXXXX wants the Government official to do something.
On a follow-up phone conversation I was clearly told: If I contact any Congressman or Senator and my company gets an inquiry from them as to why they employ "a foreigner" I am done...
Note: They are have been some cases where members of Congress tried to question and impose regulations on Defense companies not to hire any non-citizens. There is a trend out there expanding to more and more companies, to just hire citizens. In the end the GC will look as obsolete as the EAD today. One more reason to fight for "Project Ocean" also along with the Backlogs.
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