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DV 2021 ALL SELECTEES

Sm1smom said:
Bad suggestion and a selfish one IMO.

Bad in the sense that the more people keep calling KCC, they more you guys distract and prevent them from focusing on getting what needs to be done taken care of.

Selfish considering DV 2020 folks have less than 4 weeks left till the end of their applicable FY for now, at least. DV2021 folks still have several months left! Nothing wrong with supporting one another, bearing in mind this ruling wouldn’t even have happened but for DV2020 folks dire situation. Their wouldn’t have been filed court cases in the first place if not because of them!
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DV2020's applicants have been processing between Oct 2019 and the end of March 2020. Now, they got a mission-critical service so they will be interviewed. The same judge in April refused to provide relief for DV because there was still time till Sep 2020 (April's proclamation ). Now, if Trump wins and extends his proclamation 2021 will not be interviewed unless we go throw the court. Maybe, any court will refuse to provide DV2021 a relief early (probably before June or so). So, DV2021 will be potentially affected much more than 2020 (at least 2020 have been processed for about 6 months-Oct 1 till March 24). selective empathy!!!
 
Anaa86Eg said:
DV2020's applicants have been processing between Oct 2019 and the end of March 2020. Now, they got a mission-critical service so they will be interviewed. The same judge in April refused to provide relief for DV because there was still time till Sep 2020 (April's proclamation ). Now, if Trump wins and extends his proclamation 2021 will not be interviewed unless we go throw the court. Maybe, any court will refuse to provide DV2021 a relief early (probably before June or so). So, DV2021 will be potentially affected much more than 2020 (at least 2020 have been processed for about 6 months-Oct 1 till March 24). selective empathy!!!
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Selective empathy???? Very funny, except I’m not laughing.

How about trying to take advantage and reap from other people’s efforts, thereby derailing the process for those who actually cried out and brought the issue to the world’s attention which eventually led to this judgment in the first place! So hard to not be self-centered for a while?
 
Anaa86Eg said:
DV2020's applicants have been processing between Oct 2019 and the end of March 2020. Now, they got a mission-critical service so they will be interviewed. The same judge in April refused to provide relief for DV because there was still time till Sep 2020 (April's proclamation ). Now, if Trump wins and extends his proclamation 2021 will not be interviewed unless we go throw the court. Maybe, any court will refuse to provide DV2021 a relief early (probably before June or so). So, DV2021 will be potentially affected much more than 2020 (at least 2020 have been processed for about 6 months-Oct 1 till March 24). selective empathy!!!
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If, if, maybe, potentially vs what is actually happening now! Come on!
 
Anaa86Eg said:
DV2020's applicants have been processing between Oct 2019 and the end of March 2020. Now, they got a mission-critical service so they will be interviewed. The same judge in April refused to provide relief for DV because there was still time till Sep 2020 (April's proclamation ). Now, if Trump wins and extends his proclamation 2021 will not be interviewed unless we go throw the court. Maybe, any court will refuse to provide DV2021 a relief early (probably before June or so). So, DV2021 will be potentially affected much more than 2020 (at least 2020 have been processed for about 6 months-Oct 1 till March 24). selective empathy!!!
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No I don't think that would happen
 
I have a question :
My CN is AS17××× haven't recieved any emails.
I see people with numbers around AS24××× recieving document confirmation email.
Is it a random process from KCC or is it done according to case numbers?
 
DV2021 should help themselves rapidly.. Do not forget that Trump's administration will appeal the decision and they can win as happened many times before. Just a matter of time, a few months, so DV2021 literally could be the worst DV FY ever.
 
Anaa86Eg said:
DV2021 should help themselves rapidly.. Do not forget that Trump's administration will appeal the decision and they can win as happened many times before. Just a matter of time, a few months, so DV2021 literally could be the worst DV FY ever.
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I’m going to preface this response by saying I’m a DV21 selectee. (So my response doesn’t make me appear insensitive to other DV21 selectees).

1. The FY hasn’t even ended for DV20. We literally haven’t lost ANY time yet.
2. The elections have not taken place yet. As it stands, we would have at least 9 months to process our cases.
3. In the event of the above (reduced FY for DV21) KCC would probably be better equipped to handle as many cases as possible. All this because they might have come to anticipate the time constraints (which DV20 did not expect because everything was going fine until the pandemic).
 
Sm1smom said:
Selective empathy???? Very funny, except I’m not laughing.

How about trying to take advantage and reap from other people’s efforts, thereby derailing the process for those who actually cried out and brought the issue to the world’s attention which eventually led to this judgment in the first place! So hard to not be self-centered for a while?
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DV2020 were not self-centered and they were fighting Trump to provide relief to the entire world and not for their own benefits.. they are superheroes
 
Anaa86Eg said:
DV2020 were not self-centered and they were fighting Trump to provide relief to the entire world and not for their own benefits.. they are superheroes
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The DV2020 folks who spoke up were fighting for their cases, they were not fighting Trump or seeking relief for the entire world. They were seeking relieve as DV2020 selectees - if they were fighting Trump on behalf of the entire world, additional immigration issues which Trump has impacted would have been covered. So no, their cause was not for the entire world.

And if you recognize the DV2020 folks as heroes, then give them their due recognition. Don’t try to derail their process considering they only have days left to the end of their FY by advocating for DV2021 folks to distract the KCC from processing DV2020 folks.
 
Sm1smom said:
The DV2020 folks who spoke up were fighting for their cases, they were not fighting Trump or seeking relief for the entire world. They were seeking relieve as DV2020 selectees - if they were fighting Trump on behalf of the entire world, additional immigration issues which Trump has impacted would have been covered. So no, their cause was not for the entire world.

And if you recognize the DV2020 folks as heroes, then give them their due recognition. Don’t try to derail their process considering they only have days left to the end of their FY by advocating for DV2021 folks to distract the KCC from processing DV2020 folks.
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It was also part of a wider lawsuit.

I couldn’t figure out if the superhero comment was serious or sarcastic, regardless, there is only one way to treat people who come here to use other people’s input and then act so selfishly!
 
SusieQQQ said:
It was also part of a wider lawsuit.

I couldn’t figure out if the superhero comment was serious or sarcastic, regardless, there is only one way to treat people who come here to use other people’s input and then act so selfishly!
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let me guess, this way must be "suppression and exclusion"
 
I don't know why people are fighting over nothing, but it is understandable some people can be self-centered. Most people that have won the lottery are living in undeveloped countries (I got EU citizenship, so I'm ok) and moving to USA is their once in a lifetime chance (LOTTERY) to fix everything in their lives. I can understand them becoming self centered right now and trying to take action with their peers, why not? And I can understand dv2020s are being self centered too. Those aren't different people, they are same people with dv2021 basically. Anyway, there is nothing suprising about some people being self centered here and try to organize other people to fight for their common goals & try to reduce their risks in this chaos, no matter whether if they are dv2020 or dv2021.
 
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gmeteor said:
I don't know why people are fighting over nothing, but it is understandable some people can be self-centered. Most people that have won the lottery are living in undeveloped countries (I got EU citizenship, so I'm ok) and moving to USA is their once in a lifetime chance (LOTTERY) to fix everything in their lives. I can understand them becoming self centered right now and trying to take action with their peers, why not? And I can understand dv2020s are being self centered too. Those aren't different people, they are same people with dv2021 basically. Anyway, there is nothing suprising about some people being self centered here and try to organize other people to fight for their common goals & try to reduce their risks in this chaos, no matter whether if they are dv2020 or dv2021.
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It’s not just a case of “everyone doing what is right for them”. It’s a case of some people being so selfish that they can’t hold off for JUST THREE WEEKS (despite having an entire fiscal year left) to allow KCC to focus their resources on the extremely time critical DV2020 cases.
And yes everyone has their self interest at heart, but the reason this forum works is that enough people do something for nothing to help others. If everyone was that selfish, this forum wouldn’t exist. People who act like that continually do usually eventually find no one bothers to answer their posts.
 
Anaa86Eg said:
DV2021 should help themselves rapidly.. Do not forget that Trump's administration will appeal the decision and they can win as happened many times before. Just a matter of time, a few months, so DV2021 literally could be the worst DV FY ever.
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"Could" being the operative word, as it stands right now DV21 hasnt even officially started so instead of taking valuable time from KCC who are trying to expedite DV20 cases why don't you use your time wisely and review the process, gather your documents, review the process again and gain as much knowledge as you can in the next 3 weeks - let DV20 folks have all the time possible to complete their process.
IF bad things happen during DV21 processing time you can be assured that everyone here will do whatever they can to assist you in getting through the process just like we are trying to do for DV20 people
 
Aidyn said:
"Could" being the operative word, as it stands right now DV21 hasnt even officially started so instead of taking valuable time from KCC who are trying to expedite DV20 cases why don't you use your time wisely and review the process, gather your documents, review the process again and gain as much knowledge as you can in the next 3 weeks - let DV20 folks have all the time possible to complete their process.
IF bad things happen during DV21 processing time you can be assured that everyone here will do whatever they can to assist you in getting through the process just like we are trying to do for DV20 people
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Wise words. This is exactly what I am doing. I am 2021 selectee. I am just as, if not more than, nervous and worried as anyone else, considering the tension between my sovereign country and the Trump adminstration. And I almost always overthink and freak out at the slightest uncertainty. But being self-centered is one thing, inciting others to be disruptive to the whole process is another. And this is something I cannot condone.
 
Sarah S said:
I totally agree with you. Dv2020 had at-least their first few months interviews. But for 2021, the start itself is unpredictable. We should start speaking for dv2021 when its October 1st (officially its our fiscal year so no one can criticize us).
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i agree with u.. same thoughts
 
TheKey said:
I’m going to preface this response by saying I’m a DV21 selectee. (So my response doesn’t make me appear insensitive to other DV21 selectees).

1. The FY hasn’t even ended for DV20. We literally haven’t lost ANY time yet.
2. The elections have not taken place yet. As it stands, we would have at least 9 months to process our cases.
3. In the event of the above (reduced FY for DV21) KCC would probably be better equipped to handle as many cases as possible. All this because they might have come to anticipate the time constraints (which DV20 did not expect because everything was going fine until the pandemic).
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DV2021 selectee here and I agree with you. Our time has not even started and we are already trying to steal time from those that are running out of it? It's despicable. We have to be helping them, we are all in the same boat (DV) here. And then, if needed, they will help us (which they have already done by bringing up this issue and setting precedent with the judge, they set a legal path for us if we ever need to use it).
Even if the president is reelected, I am not 100% sure he will keep renewing the ban once the elections are over, there will be no need.
Let's stay in out lane and help 2020 selectees in anything we can, as for now that is staying out of their way so they can process as many cases as possible.
 
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