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Originally posted by kashmir
Considering ethnic lobbying groups,
I'd like to amend 6th request of our petition as follows:
Remove "through Employment".
Removing this condition makes our request simple and it will support not only EB but also Family based and even illegal ones.
We have a chance to incorporate it into another bill currently targeting illegal immigrants.
Maybe, we should discuss it at another thread.
-kashmir
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I understand it's a separate discussion topic, So please do not reply to this message.

Most of the politicians(read Democrats) prefer to give legal status / GC to illegal immigrants but they don't want to give Citizenship immediately, so illegal immigrants won't get that.

That's the reason, we legal guys should fight for our problems. So that politicians (Read Republicans) favorable to us might support this.

By ethnic Lobbying groups I meant Indian Lobbying groups, I don't have any idea about Hispanic or Chinese Lobbying groups.
 
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Originally posted by kashmir
> I'm planning to stop by his Office to handover our petition with signatures, also I'll try to schedule a meeting with him.

Not only core members but also everyone should do that.
If 100th member would do that, the rest of members would follow us.
It should happen within a couple of months.

During that term, the core team can implement the next item of our strategy.
-kashmir
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You are right, that's why I campaign quite frequently for the same. Even I noticed that you also campaign for this.

BTW, Lot of people from TSC forum downloaded our petition than any other forum. Even if they don't participate in our discussion, I think they are doing something.
 
> By ethnic Lobbying groups I meant Indian Lobbying groups, I don't have any idea about Hispanic or Chinese Lobbying groups.

Here in California, Hispanic and Chinese are very large groups.
I may be able to contact them.
Anyway, I will discuss about it at the CSC forum.
-kashmir
 
CAMPAIGN

Originally posted by Edison
You are right, that's why I campaign quite frequently for the same. Even I noticed that you also campaign for this.

BTW, Lot of people from TSC forum downloaded our petition than any other forum. Even if they don't participate in our discussion, I think they are doing something.
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Once VSC and CSC would succeed the campaign, TSC and NSC would follow us, I believe.
-kashmir
 
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Manumahi,
I don't think that preparing a booklet is necessary. Besides diverting us from the core task, it does not add much value. Please remember that most of the people joined you in this thread in an effort to meet the VSC director and discuss our problems. We need to act fast. Get the people together, find out how to reach out to congress men and bcis officials. That's all we should be doing now.
We don't need one more petition. We already have two petitions and they are enough. When we meet congress men, let us hand over the congress men version petition and when we meet bcis officials, we will use our first petition.
Please create a new thread to form state level committees. Let's move fast.
 
Re: CAMPAIGN

Originally posted by kashmir
Once VSC and CSC would succeed the campaign, TSC and NSC would follow us, I believe.
-kashmir
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Once I get a green card, I will start "DONATION" campaign.
It may accelerate our petition.
-kashmir
 
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Originally posted by manumahi

So far only 66 members are favorable to contribute. I don't think we can hire strategist with this money. Only thing we can do is send attorneys and volunteers to each center.
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Manumahi,
I gnore the number of people who have voted. Once we start sending checks and publish the user name and amount they have donated, i am sure that hundreds will follow. We will definitely be able to get more than $10,000. We just have to decide where to send the checks. This is one of our biggest priority. May be one of us should talk to Rajiv over phone.
 
Kashmir

Kashmir,
I really appreciate what you are doing. This is what every one else should be doing. Relentlessly trying to contact local congress men. YOU ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.
 
Kashmir,
You are right "DONATION" campaign for political parties will help us. Permanent residents here should start that.
 
Originally posted by dsatish
Manumahi,
I gnore the number of people who have voted. Once we start sending checks and publish the user name and amount they have donated, i am sure that hundreds will follow. We will definitely be able to get more than $10,000. We just have to decide where to send the checks. This is one of our biggest priority. May be one of us should talk to Rajiv over phone.
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Do we really need the money? It seems we need the money only for Booklet right now. And if you are talking about lobbying 10,000 is like pennies. You need atleast 50,000.

Once we want to start lobbying we can think about receiving money.

And again I would say its better to have a tie up with ISN.org to collect the money and use its expertise for lobbying. As ISN.org is a registered non profitable organization even there is tax benefit for donors.


Disclaimer: I used to be an active member of ISN.org
 
Originally posted by rk4gc
Do we really need the money? It seems we need the money only for Booklet right now. And if you are talking about lobbying 10,000 is like pennies. You need atleast 50,000.

Once we want to start lobbying we can think about receiving money.

And again I would say its better to have a tie up with ISN.org to collect the money and use its expertise for lobbying. As ISN.org is a registered non profitable organization even there is tax benefit for donors.


Disclaimer: I used to be an active member of ISN.org
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Initially money is required for Publishing our petition through Media, News distribution service cost and Press release/Petition?booklet preparation cost.

No tie ups since we are not part of any organization. We need one strong organization to support us in lobbying process. It is very difficult to start our own lobbying platform since we don't have much support.
 
lets drop the idea of preparing booklet.

These are the Phase 1 tasks we need to do.

1) Take appointment with all service center directors.
2) Decide whether we need attorney to accompany us or not.
3) Mobalize volunteers
4) If we don't have volunteers for any service center prepare alternative plans.

Please add any thing in Phase 1 tasks you want.

Phase 2 will start right after this which will include
1) meeting local congress people
2) Meeting Home land security officials (need to sort out names)
etc.......

Please share your thoughts on this. We need to complete phase 1 tasks before end of this month.
 
Efforts for TSC

I mainly participate in TSC forum. This is a great effort. We are trying to form a team in TSC forum to meet the TSC Director. Also there is an effort to form a team in Atlanta to meet Senators and push the petition.

The fact is that, TSC is more than a year behind all other centers and we would like to see that gap close asap. So, we need a dedicated team for TSC at this point.

I would like to help out any way I can. Also would like to know whether you have any team assigned for TSC.

http://immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?threadid=99813
 
Re: Efforts for TSC

Originally posted by ayansgp
I mainly participate in TSC forum. This is a great effort. We are trying to form a team in TSC forum to meet the TSC Director. Also there is an effort to form a team in Atlanta to meet Senators and push the petition.

The fact is that, TSC is more than a year behind all other centers and we would like to see that gap close asap. So, we need a dedicated team for TSC at this point.

I would like to help out any way I can. Also would like to know whether you have any team assigned for TSC.

http://immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?threadid=99813
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Please plan to meet Congressman/woman first rather than senators since the bill has to be passed first in the house then only, it comes to senate.

Every sub-committee will have members from all the service centers and Co-ordination committee will lead all the efforts. Active members should be part of co-ordination committee.

We'll make sure that each and every team has representation from all service centers and well balanced.

Please let us know the active members from TSC and their consent/interest to join the various committees
 
ayansgp,
We need people like you. You are doing a good job in waking up the TSC members.

We Just started 2 days back. I would like to coordinate all these efforts through one team. Just like Edison, dsatish, Kashmir suggested we need a sub team for each service center. Keep up your good work and try to get some volunteers. In the mean while we will do same thing here.

I would suggest to provide this thead to TSC members. This may bring some motivation in your side.
 
Manumahi,
Your phase 1 and phase 2 plans look very sound. I vote for them. I would like to add that we definitely need to have some money to run this show. So please add fund collection in phase 1. If you have to hire any lawyer or professional to help us in getting appointments with bcis officials and congress men, the money will help us. We can also use that money to pay to some of the super active members who might be applying leave on loss of pay to meet the congress men or any other expenditure. If the money is unutilised we can return it to the senders.
So i would suggest that , please appoint rk4gc as fund collection incharge. He can talk to isn.org and may be we can send checks to ISN and rk4gc will be incharge of that fund (as an ISN member).

rk4gc,
we are not collecting funds for lobbying. We are collecting it to cover the running expenses and if possible to hire 1 lawyer.
 
Before planning to collect money, have a clear agenda. Without knowing where we are going to spend money no one will be interested to join that effort. I'm sure most of us not interested to spend money for attorney.
 
I support the drive of meeting CIS service center directors. For this we may not have to collect money. The purpose is to make sure our petition (as well as our frustration) is received by the center directors. It would be nice if the group meeting the director would have some photos with them for publicity purpose. What we need are some dedicated members (I-485, I-140 applicants) who living around the four centers.

This will only compose part of our champion. We need continue to buzz congress members. Let's fax out petition to local congress members, George Bush and the house policy members.

BTW, a question to Kasmir (and Edison) why does the project "Ocean" slogan say"become U.S. citizens by 2008"? I believe Cinta raised the same question. All who submitted I-485 on and before March 2003 (this year) should have GC already if not delayed by CIS. Those who applied 1.5 and 2 years ago should become citizen before 2006, or even earlier if they have been here continuously for 8 or more years. I thought this is one of our suggestions in our petition.

Originally posted by Edison
Before planning to collect money, have a clear agenda. Without knowing where we are going to spend money no one will be interested to join that effort. I'm sure most of us not interested to spend money for attorney.
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YJay,
2008 sounds feasible target to become citizen, if our requests are implemented. Assuming 5 year wait period of citizenship starts from I-485 RD then as you said anyone applied before March 2003 might become citizen by October 2008 assuming 6 months processing time for N-400. If 8 year legal status is considered then most of us qualifies right away for citizenship, then 2006 becomes reality.

Eventhough 2008 sounds like reality considering today's situation, If "Become a US citizen by 2006 election" might increase the enthusiam among us then we should go for it.
 
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