Reapply for Citizenship after denial

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jt12

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Hello
Can I reapply after citizenship hearing n-336 denial?

The first denial stated that the decision was without prejudice and will affect other applications in the future
Also stated that is for 5 years

The n-336 hearing denial letter reaffirming the first decision does not have a reapply date

My question is if I reapply will it be a denial with out an interview and just a payment for denial?

Or I have a change to be in front of another officer without waiting for 5 years
And if it is a denial do I have the chance to appeal again
 
good moral character
dicrepancies in my n-400 on dates of travel and interview questions
 
who ?
I got this link from visa jurney journey and it said that i can find people who can help
 
the interview officer said I did not summit 2 trips to Colombia on the application an when I was Ask if my application was correct and fuly compleated i said Yes
 
jt12 said:
Hello
Can I reapply after citizenship hearing n-336 denial?

The first denial stated that the decision was without prejudice and will affect other applications in the future
Also stated that is for 5 years

The n-336 hearing denial letter reaffirming the first decision does not have a reapply date

My question is if I reapply will it be a denial with out an interview and just a payment for denial?

Or I have a change to be in front of another officer without waiting for 5 years
And if it is a denial do I have the chance to appeal again
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Any application for naturalization that you file within the next 5 years will be denied. This would most likely come up at any future interview. You might be able to file an appeal on a second denial, but you're wasting your money as you have already previously been declared inadmissible.
 
Out of those reasons

http://careers.findlaw.com/firmsite/attachments/LE6_c_checklist_WhatIsGoodMoralCharacter.pdf

was your reason "Giving false testimony under oath in order to receive benefits under the Immigration and Nationality Act"?

Does this trip influence your physical presence requirement fulfillment? I mean without the trips you are eligible to apply, but with the trips you are not eligible?
I mean did you commit fraud to pocure naturalization benefits for which you were not eligible?
 
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Wow, that is a pretty weak excuse to deny an application on good moral character grounds, in particular if the trips were not long or material in any other way. That will probably change my view when there are questions in this forum about faithfully listing all trips. Problem is that many people forget some trips and exact dates. Was there something else beyond this? I find it hard to believe, and even harder that you were denied on your N-336 hearing just on this. I would suggest to talk to a lawyer. I am not sure this forum is the appropriate place to get advice for such an important thing.
 
Huracan said:
Wow, that is a pretty weak excuse to deny an application on good moral character grounds, in particular if the trips were not long or material in any other way.
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That's assuming the trips didn't break continuous residence or physical presence requirements and that the OP honestly didn't recall those trips.
 
Bobsmyth said:
That's assuming the trips didn't break continuous residence or physical presence requirements and that the OP honestly didn't recall those trips.
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I know, I know, that's why I just find it hard to believe that just omitting the couple of trips was reason enough to deny. I think it is likely that those trips broke continuous residence or physical presence.
 
I think it is likely that those trips broke continuous residence or physical presence
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It they did, on the other hand, that could make the person deportable. However,
decision was without prejudice
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If USCIS decided the OP lied under oath while attempting to seek an immigration benefit, it might become a permanent bar to naturalization. At the very least, the he won't be able to reapply in the next 5 years.

There is one clarification I'd like to seek: the OP said the denial was "without prejudice" but then went on to say this "will affect other applications in the future". Which was it? Without prejudice means there would typically not be an affect on future applications.
 
I was going to but I got frustrated and I did not file the lawsuit within the 120 days after the last denial
 
and yes it was a overlook after so many trips to colombia visiting my fiance
but the officer was thinking that I was trying to hide the trips
but the officer trick me by saying are you sure this are the only trips to colombia and I said yes.
 
Yes, jt12, I think you should have said "to the best of my knowledge" or " there may be one or two short trips that I cannot remember" or something to that effect, showing that you were unsure, but unafraid of them finding out. How long did each of those trips last and how many months in the 5 years did you spend outside the US?
 
and yes is hard to believe that during the hearing the officer did not let me explained that yes I took the trip that I forgot the dates and that after more that 15 trips did not have lines on the n-400 for all but the officer said you should submitted a separate sheet and ask me again, did you took the trips to Colombia and I said yes, and also said did you affirm the officer under oat that all the trips where in the n-400 and I have to said yes I told her that
So in a non-malicious way I lie under oat to an officer
The interview took only 7 minutes and I guess she has to validate the first decision
She was not going to go against another officer it is easiest to validate the first decision that overturned one.
 
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