Reapply for Citizenship after denial

Are there trips other than those 2 which you failed to mention on the N-400? And the 2 trips in dispute happen to be the only 2 that they knew about? You are being VERY unclear about the situation, and if you don't explain yourself clearly in the interview they're going to interpret things in a bad way, likely resulting in denial.

Of the trips that were left off the N-400, what is the total number of days (or weeks or months, if you don't know the exact dates)? If those trips are included, what is the total time spent outside the US in the 5 years before you filed the N-400?
 
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2 trips that are not in the n-400
one trip 1 1/2 weeks
second trip 3 weeks
to them I was trying to hide information
and yes I was thinking that it was not a big deal after so many trips
but yes it is a big deal
I know she has my file and records of my entries and departures from the US
I know I made a stupid mistake but my question is if I file again I will be in front of an officer and I can explain and get all the information needed ( I found my old Passport with the records)
5 years ago are the dates for
the missing trips.
 
My lawyer said to re-apply,
but he is not very good
I hire him for my n-336 process and he didn’t help at all, no objections or anything during the interview
so I don’t trust his advice
that any new application may be denied but depending on the officer maybe I get lucky
 
I guess it must be better to not be too certain if someone asks you if those are all the trips you have taken. In my case I was pretty good at keeping a log of all my trips. I did it actually on a printout of the N-400. However, if I hadn't done so and the question would have come during the interview about are these all the trips I have made I would say, yes to the best of my knowledge. Or would have said that these are the only ones I found in my passport and my recollection or something to that effect. Most people forget a few short trips and it is usually not a big deal. I am sorry they gave you so much trouble for such a silly thing.
 
By the way, my guess is that if you need to naturalize quickly because you need to bring your fiancee and you don't worry much about the money you might try to apply again, and explain what happened. The application might be denied, but you are not going to know until you try. You might get lucky and get a more understanding IO. This is just completely uneducated advice by the way.
 
Thank you and that’s exactly what I was Thinking I can afford another n-400 fees better than wait 2 more years and one more for the application process ( I apply in 2005) so in 2010 will be 5 years plus one year of application, even if it is denied I can file a n-336 and also I can go to court on the denial.
 
Next time, take a lawyer to the interview and have the lawyer answer questions related to this issue, or any other questions where it looks like the interviewer sees something wrong or is fishing for something wrong.
 
jt12 said:
the interview officer said I did not summit 2 trips to Colombia on the application an when I was Ask if my application was correct and fully completed i said Yes
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JT12, let me ask you a simple question? were those 2 trips to Colombia the only 2 trips you made to that country or did you have more trips to Colombia?

The reason I ask you is because unfortunately Colombia is one of those places in the world that are labeled as "unsafe" even though it may not be the case and I m referring to the FARC, narcotics, etc. It's like taking a trip to another place or country in the world with a lot of hostility against the U.S. (Tora Bora, Chechnya, etc) and not disclosing it. Anyone remembers the case of the Palestinian refugee that had his interview recorded because he was captive in an Israeli prison camp for a while?

Being hispanic myself, I don't perceive Colombia as the place that Hollywood paints it to be, but unfortunately there are ignorant people in the world that don't give any reason to reasoning. Maybe it is in the interest of the USCIS or this particular IO to dig deeply in why you would travel to Colombia for a short period of time.

In my N-400 I simply forgot to disclose all my trips before 2003 (5 years) and my IO never even focused on those, just the past 5 years.
 
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If those trips are included, what is the total time spent outside the US in the 5 years before you filed the N-400?
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2 trips that are not in the n-400
one trip 1 1/2 weeks
second trip 3 weeks
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It does not look like an answer to the question asked.
 
Jackolantern said:
Next time, take a lawyer to the interview and have the lawyer answer questions related to this issue, or any other questions where it looks like the interviewer sees something wrong or is fishing for something wrong.
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My understanding is that a lawyer cannot answer interview questions on your behalf during the N-400 interview. Probably the most they could do is prevent the IO from asking things beyond the scope of their remit.
 
Totally 15 trips all to Colombia and Mexico a I guest no more than 5 or 6 months counting trips of 2 weeks 3 weeks the longest trip 33 days in bogota
 
Thank you for all the questions
But my answer is not clear yet if I reapply (knowing that It maybe denied do I have a chance to be in front of an officer and if he automatically denied because of the first denial do I have still the chance of a hearing and a chance in court may be one out of 3 will give me a chance to explain and as far as I know the District Judge do not have to follow USCIS rules he can maybe order a re-application de novo and lift the 5 year application bar.
 
jt12 said:
Can I go to court even after the 120 day's time line?
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Yes. A person have to wait 120 days after the interview before s/he can ask court to intervene and either decide naturalization application or compel USCIS to act. It's not applicable when N400 is denied. An applicant does need to file administrative appeal (N-336) within 30 days after the denial and s/he need to wait for a decision on N336 before going to federal court.
 
Federal District Court Review of Denial of Citizenship Application
If your citizenship application remains denied after the administrative review, you may ask a federal district court to review your application. To seek judicial review of your application by a federal district court, you must file a petition for review in the federal district court where you live.

Judicial review by a federal district court of a denial of a citizenship application is de novo (from the beginning). The federal district court will make its own findings of fact regarding your citizenship application and draw its own conclusions of law. If you request, the court will also hold a hearing on the review of your citizenship application.

The regulations require that you file the petition for review within 120 days after the final administrative denial of your citizenship application. However, the Tenth Circuit (Oklahoma, Kansas, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, and Utah) has applied a six-year statute of limitations to a petition for review.
 
jt12 said:
the interview officer said I did not summit 2 trips to Colombia on the application an when I was Ask if my application was correct and fuly compleated i said Yes
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How did IO know about this 2 trips? IO checked passport and found missing trips??
 
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