in your own objective opinion, which is better? US citizenship or EU citizenship?

GhantaBro said:
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dno't wory abaut it, me dont think they count speling erors agains you dewring da interview! :D Good luck! :)

during my own interview, the officer asked me to write "My house has a blue door" on a piece of paper.
it wan't until after the interview was over(and approved) that I realized I wrote "My house has a blue dog"!!!!!!! :eek:
The officer jokingly said: "I ain't never seen no blue dogs in my life.... do you have one at home?" :)
 
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aabbcc11 said:
From what I see, the US is a great country for the young or rich and the EU is excellent when old or poor.
If you are young or rich, you don't have to worry about health care mostly. For the old and poor the state helps with this issue in the EU.

When Boatbod said EU healthcare has wait times, that is true. This doesn't happen in the US because there are 45 million who are not visiting Drs when they want to. So basically if these people did somehow get their own insurance, even if it is not state paid, then waittimes would be seen here also. We can't trample on the poor just because we may have to wait in a line.

Since when did a large car or house = happiness? So the EU houses and cars are small. But they also have excellent public transport, and services like grocery and parks are close to houses. In the US people are used to living in suburbs and then driving everywhere, is that a better model?

So what if the American can buy 9k worth of stuff? Does it matter when parents have to work two jobs and are barely involved in the kid's life? The EU has excellent paternity and maternity leave and they are generally happier but of course they are not perfect either. When we vacationed there, everything was more expensive. We felt happy to be back in the US ;-)
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One of the great things about the United States is it's ability to admit, identify and solve it's own problems. Clearly health care, social security and immigration have been identified as problems and they will get fixed in an acceptable time frame.

Too many work hours? Too little time with family? These are matters related to ability of the individual to organize and manage his/her own personal life. The US citizenry is lucky to have a government that does not interfere with individual's personal life (as opposed to a socialist government which makes decisions for you, implicitly)

The US workforce is probably the most productive work force in the world and that shows directly in the GDP and various other economic indicators of this huge 10 trillion+ dollar economy.

Equating closeness or nearness with distance as opposed to time is an old world concept that the United States has eliminated. I can bet that I have access to the same or even better services (public transport, grocery, parks, etc) in a shorter span of time than in Europe.

Still, I'm looking forward to that Europe tour which is long overdue for me!
 
Carlart said:
dno't wory abaut it, me dont think they count speling erors agains you dewring da interview! :D Good luck! :)

during my own interview, the officer asked me to write "My house has a blue door" on a piece of paper.
it wan't until after the interview was over(and approved) that I realized I wrote "My house has a blue dog"!!!!!!! :eek:
The officer jokingly said: "I ain't never seen no blue dogs in my life.... do you have one at home?" :)
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tahnks a lot carlrat!
 
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from a fellow beemer enthusiast
In German it is Bayerische Motoren Werke
In English Bavarian Motor Works
 
immigrateful said:
One of the great things about the United States is it's ability to admit, identify and solve it's own problems. Clearly health care, social security and immigration have been identified as problems and they will get fixed in an acceptable time frame.

Too many work hours? Too little time with family? These are matters related to ability of the individual to organize and manage his/her own personal life. The US citizenry is lucky to have a government that does not interfere with individual's personal life (as opposed to a socialist government which makes decisions for you, implicitly)

The US workforce is probably the most productive work force in the world and that shows directly in the GDP and various other economic indicators of this huge 10 trillion+ dollar economy.

Equating closeness or nearness with distance as opposed to time is an old world concept that the United States has eliminated. I can bet that I have access to the same or even better services (public transport, grocery, parks, etc) in a shorter span of time than in Europe.

Still, I'm looking forward to that Europe tour which is long overdue for me!
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Finally someone speak some sense in this forum... without offending or insulting or hating the US, where they are applying for citizenship by the way.
 
Very well said! There are pros and cons in different departments and the concept of better depends on what a person considers to be important. For example, I prefer longer maternity leave - for either the man or woman or both. In this area, the US falls below most of the EU. THere are areas for which the US is better than the EU.
PS: By the way, the wait times for processing immigration applications for the UK is significantly better compared to the US. lol


aabbcc11 said:
From what I see, the US is a great country for the young or rich and the EU is excellent when old or poor.
If you are young or rich, you don't have to worry about health care mostly. For the old and poor the state helps with this issue in the EU.

When Boatbod said EU healthcare has wait times, that is true. This doesn't happen in the US because there are 45 million who are not visiting Drs when they want to. So basically if these people did somehow get their own insurance, even if it is not state paid, then waittimes would be seen here also. We can't trample on the poor just because we may have to wait in a line.

Since when did a large car or house = happiness? So the EU houses and cars are small. But they also have excellent public transport, and services like grocery and parks are close to houses. In the US people are used to living in suburbs and then driving everywhere, is that a better model?

So what if the American can buy 9k worth of stuff? Does it matter when parents have to work two jobs and are barely involved in the kid's life? The EU has excellent paternity and maternity leave and they are generally happier but of course they are not perfect either. When we vacationed there, everything was more expensive. We felt happy to be back in the US ;-)
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Some of you are wrong. You can't live and work in the all EU countries with EU citizenship. I have EU citizenship and I can't work in few countries and can't live in few countries. It depends from which country you are and in order to live in some countries, you have to have funds or permanent job, then they issue you a resident card to live free there. If not, then you must leave the country.

There is no free Health insurance in EU. You must work to get one free (paid by employer). If you don't work, no health insurance.

Both citizenship are good, but I want my US now!
 
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