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DV-2014 Lottery High number or not? Please help.

But I called KCC and was told to send both forms. Now I am confused too.
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It was a part of official instructions 7 years ago. 4 years ago they changed the instructions to exclude DS-230, and 2 years ago they excluded DSP-122. KCC contractors are not necessarily aware of that.

However, this is not the main concernn. The main concern is the PM i got from one of the users:
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Dear Raevsky,

sorry that i'm sending you this private message but i'm really seeking
your advice,

i have been selected in DV2014 and i have submitted the initial forms
via email to KCC.

after submitting the forms i realized that point number 3 in DS230 i
have filled it with N/A instead of my name in arabic.

this is because the PDF writer that i used to fill this form did not
support arabic, when i opened the form on my computer at home with
other PDF writer i found out it actually accepts arabic.

now what would be the status of my application? will it be rejected?
shall i submit another form ?

i really appreciate your help and advice.

Sincerely
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This means someone actually send forms by email. Together with the fact that here people say that KCC accepts form by email, it lead me to a finding that this is a scam that the scammers promote to charge the fees.

I made a search on the internet and immediately found this story:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110927134335AAxMDa0 and another one - http://pulsitemeter.com/kccdv/kccdv-lottery.html

Here scammers used email kccdv@state.org or kccdv@state-us.com to fake KCC email to charge people for sending forms.

The next thing was fake rank number, used by MaKiki. He used a fake rank number, and insisted it is not fake, while it is. I was thinking why he needed to use a fake rank number.
Obviously, to convince users he is a DV winner and he does not have any illegitimate purpose scamming here.

Now, because those people here on the forum agressively instisted that sending DOS forms is part of AOS process while it is not, and because they spend here days promoting just a single idea - that sending DOS forms is in fact part of AOS process, and because some people actually sent email to KCC with the forms here on the forum, and because those people here are denying any arguments at all, I have no other choice as to think that they are here to scam.

Obviously, they have a purpose to scam, that is why they use fake rank number, that is why they insist some forms are part of the process, why they do not use norma human arguments, why they just instead say "because I said so". The reason is the one - they convince people to use their services, and to increase number of victims they try to find them among those who do AOS and who is not going to send those forms at all.
 
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aos13 said:
Yeah, US immigration system is very efficient and accurate like that. :rolleyes:

There is no confusion about question 4 in form DSP-122:

4. Name of United States Consular Office where you would like to Process your Application
This will usually be the consular office nearest the place you live. However, please note that some U.S. Embassies and Consulates do not process immigrant visas. If you are not sure whether the U.S. Embassy or Consulate nearest you processes immigrant visas, or if you do not know which is the U.S. Embassy or Consulate nearest to you, please list the city and country where you live. If you live in the United States and plan to adjust status with the United State (sic) Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) please list "USCIS"; If you live in the United States but you intend to return abroad to be interviewed, please list the U.S. Embassy or Consulate that processes immigrant visas for the area where you lived before you came to the United States.


So KCC wants to know if you want to go with USCIS. Can we please move on?

PS: It used to say "BCIS" in the older forms, but now they want you to type "USCIS".
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In order to move on we need you to stop insiting that DSP-122 is part of the process. It is not.
The fact that they just exluded the form from instruction means they do not need to correct the form in order for it not to be used any more.

You are insiting the form is part of the process on one reason only - so that the scammer would be able to collect illegal fees. The form was taken out of use for AOS with that purpose - to stop the scam.
 
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raevsky said:
It was a part of official instructions 7 years ago. 4 years ago they changed the instructions to exclude DS-230, and 2 years ago they excluded DSP_122. KCC contractors are not necessarily aware of that.
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bla bla..

raevsky said:
Now, because those people here on the forum agressively instisted that sending DOS forms is part of AOS process while it is not, and because they spend here days promoting just a single idea - that sending DOS forms is in fact part of AOS process, and because some people actually sent email to KCC with the forms here on the forum, and because those people here are denying any arguments at all, I have no other choice as to think that they are here to scam.
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More bla bla.. In other words he has no idea what he is talking about. He is trying to string bits and pieces of unrelated information together to accuse others regardless of any argument. And more importantly, he didn't even bother to look at the very form he is talking about.

Move on. Next: when should we submit the I-485?? Scammers will tell you ..... :p
 
aos13 said:
Wow, almost at the same time you posted the same thing. Except that you have the older form. :)
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Hehe, yeah! We posted exactly at the same time! :) In my opinion, the matter is simple. Each applicant should read and do research about the process by checking information on official websites. It's like you said: Every single piece of information one gets from other lottery participants or posters here should be double checked with lawyers, KCC, or other official resources. If people choose to act without ensuring they have the correct information, then that is on them and them only!
 
raevsky said:
In order to move on we need you to stop insiting that DSP-122 is part of the process. It is not.
The fact that they just exluded the form from instruction means they do not need to correct the form in order for it not to be used any more.

You are insiting the form is part of the process on one reason only - so that the scammer would be able to collect illegal fees. The form was taken out of use for AOS with that purpose - to stop the scam.
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More bla bla.. It's not taken from anywhere or "exluded" from anything. Last year's form listed "BCIS", this year it is "USCIS" so they indeed updated it for accurate use as "BCIS" is not accurate acronym anymore.

Guys, this person will not accept any arguments, he will go on and on with his fixations. I believe this demonstration is enough for others to make up their minds about trusting anonymous posts. I'll stop here.
 
aos13 said:
More bla bla.. It's not taken from anywhere or "exluded" from anything. Last year's form listed "BCIS", this year it is "USCIS" so they indeed updated it for accurate use as "BCIS" is not accurate acronym anymore.

Guys, this person will not accept any arguments, he will go on and on with his fixations. I believe this demonstration is enough for others to make up their minds about trusting anonymous posts. I'll stop here.
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3 years ago it was part of instructions, and now it is not. It was taken out. Why do you insist it is part of the process? Are you a scammer? Bla-bla-bla?
You insist because scammers need it to be part of the process, here is the reason.
 
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3 years ago it was part of instructions. And now it is not. And the reason is USCIS is the leading agency in AOS, not DOS, the agencies agreed with each other to have the form removed.
However, the fact that it is no longer part of instructions means no illegal income for scammers, that is why you insist it is part of the process when it is not.
 
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raevsky said:
3 years ago it was part of instructions.
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But we are not talking about three years ago, last year it was not, and the same form insisted to write BCIS; and this year it still is not, and the same form insists to write USCIS. I guess DoS needs a wakeup call from you. Until DoS realizes its "wrong ways" and thanks you for your service, people will submit DSP122, and hopefully by US mail. :rolleyes:
 
DV-2013 it was not part of instructions as well.
It was part of the process 3 years ago, and 3 years ago you needed to say "BCIS". Now it is no longer part of the process at all.
And when you see something in the instructions - you can say it is needed, otherwise do not assume you know more than DOS and can say that DOS does not follow the rules. that is you who are not following the rules and I already said why.
 
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raevsky said:
DV-2013 it was not part of instructions as well.
It was part of the process 3 years ago, and 3 years ago you needed to say "BCIS".
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And how does it contradict what I said ?

For a long while you have insisted not to send DS230, but didn't care about DSP122; then you started to insist that DSP122 should not be sent either; then you started this story about scammers charging money for DSP122, and then you said it does not harm to send DSP122 and it is useless, then you said it was part of the process and now it isn't, and now you are implying that DoS is making a mistake this year by correcting BCIS to USCIS on a form that is not supposed to be sent for three years.

During this whole saga, you did not have a piece of solid proof to show about this particular form. And you insist people should believe in your posts but not in others' posts. Okay.
 
The form I submitted 2 days ago had it as part of the instructions in question 4. For those doing AOS, it says to write "USCIS."
 
This raevsky dude is so messed up, he would stoop as low as he can to discredit others with no tangible proof and make people believe he's the lone sane person in this forum.

This so called PM he's reposted here (with some additional interesting information) is the exact same one he posted on another thread yesterday and claimed it came from me.

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Dear Raevsky,

sorry that i'm sending you this private message but i'm really seeking
your advice,

i have been selected in DV2014 and i have submitted the initial forms
via email to KCC.

after submitting the forms i realized that point number 3 in DS230 i
have filled it with N/A instead of my name in arabic.

this is because the PDF writer that i used to fill this form did not
support arabic, when i opened the form on my computer at home with
other PDF writer i found out it actually accepts arabic.

now what would be the status of my application? will it be rejected?
shall i submit another form ?

i really appreciate your help and advice.

Sincerely
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When this dude unbelievably forged my name at the end of this PM on this other thread:

http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?557246-DV-2014-Low-case-number/page2

the PM interestingly did not display the sender's 'join date' which now shows up on this post here and is a far cry from when I joined this forum.

How low will you stoop, raevsky to perpertuate this your insane on-going conspiracy theory!!

p.s. to the wonderfull forum member who reached out to me and whom I promised to not give this raevsky guy any more attention: I'm sorry for going back on my promise. I just needed to respond this time to show who the BIGGEST fake in this forum is!
 
Sm1smom said:
This so called PM he's reposted here (with some additional interesting information) is the exact same one he posted on another thread yesterday and claimed it came from me.


http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?557246-DV-2014-Low-case-number/page2

the PM interestingly did not display the sender's 'join date' which now shows up on this post here and is a far cry from when I joined this forum.
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REALLY ???!! Wow! How did I miss that? And how pathetic it is! Well, admins have access to PMs so they can check this in no time.

It would be a sad day to realize that posting anything in these forums is okay as long as one does not use a 4-letter word.
 
Tew said:
The form I submitted 2 days ago had it as part of the instructions in question 4. For those doing AOS, it says to write "USCIS."
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Do you follow the "discussion" at all? Or do you simply reply to the last thing you see?
 
aos13 said:
Do you follow the "discussion" at all? Or do you simply reply to the last thing you see?
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Of course I follow the discussion, that's why I'm replying. Why are you being rude? I was just confirming what you said.
 
Tew said:
Of course I follow the discussion, that's why I'm replying. Why are you being rude? I was just confirming what you said.
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Sorry, I was a bit upset and your reply sounded as if I wrote something wrong. Well, I feel much better now anyways, if you know what I mean. Again, sorry for being rude.
 
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