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DV-2014 How it differs from previous years ? Plus few questions !

gokhan8282 said:
Thanks aos13. It helped me a lot. I am planning to phone to the US embassy tomorrow.

I have one last question. I dont have an address for question number 10 on form DS230. I am planning to write an address to question 11 but N/A to number 10. Because i am not intending to live at that address honestly and i dont want to write wrong information to the form.

I searched for at google but couldnt find any good answers.
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Calling embassy may not be super useful, bu go ahead and do it. I'm sure they have something on their web site, I'd look for that first.

#11 is clear, but I'm not sure about #10. Putting N/A may not be a good idea though. You can put an address now, but you can change your mind later, and let the officer know during the interview. Again, finding people from your own country and ask for their experience is a good idea.
 
britsimon said:
Franko, I read your post with interest. I am also a software engineer living in London. I applied for an H1 visa this year (and got selected in THAT lottery) so I'll probably be in the States on the H1 before the interview comes up (if at all).

My number is 2014EU000314XX. From what I have read, that sounds borderline to me. It also means a very long wait for an interview - probably Jul/August of next year at the earliest?

Fingers crossed...
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Hi britsimon,

The reason that I am interested in DV is quite simple for me. I am an aerospace engineer and I could find loads of work (probably) in the US but as a citizen or GC holder. Reason for that being military programs. Most of aerospace companies require their employees to be GC holder or a citizen.

All that aside I would like to be able to move where I want and when (more less) I want and DV gives me that. As I stated before, DV isn't a matter of life and death but I could fulfil my long time dream of living in Cali (I had a chance to spend there 4 months and got married when I was on holidays in Malibu :))

I'm just gonna stay positive and wait till next year. Hope all numbers become current by June/July and some of us high numbers will get an interview. Also with 31k number I think you have a pretty good chance of getting one yourself.

Also I think you can be on H1 and still go for the Diversity Visa. Ist't that right raevsky??
 
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franko said:
Reason for that being is military programs. Most of aerospace companies require their employees to be GC holder or a citizen.
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You might want to do some research on that to make sure. Some companies look strictly for US citizens.
 
aos13 said:
You might want to do some research on that to make sure. Some companies look strictly for US citizens.
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Believe me I have.

And you are correct, some require US citizenship but the ones I am interested in are OK with permanent status. Also my CN is pretty high anyway so no point of thinking about it now :)
 
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raevsky said:
I would say no. I would say less holes. My statistics shows that among first 27000 numbers for EU there are 20% more entries in DV-2014 than in DV-2013. That means there are less holes - right on the amount of additional 20% entries
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Well, all this depends on what those holes are made of. Are they created when DOS is doing a fraud check after the initial and single random draw? If the system is better at finding bogus entries, should it place more holes between legitimate entries, and therefore inflate the cutoff level? Say by 20%, meaning CNs in the mid 40ks would have interview?
 
Sorry for this late reply
I am quite sure that previsious answers already solve ones doubts around but I will reply somethin anyway
@gokhan8282 documents are available online for downloading and you must send DSP-122 one per family and DS-230 one per person (individual DS-230 for every member of your family-as you are not applying with family then just one DS-230 and one DSP-122)
You must also add 2 photos.
If you have any problem with the steps or on filling the documents, you can search for models online or you can call at the embassy/consulate close to you
The faster you'll send the documents, the better
You need to send the documents with a courier or via post-offices.
@raevsky I am not that sure your calculations and statistics are that right but we will see. I am more and more convinced that every selected CN will receive a chance for the interview. Now, from there on is a different kind of story and I stand to my statements and say that if no or less delay will made on aswering to the confirmation and if all documents will be in order, many selected individuals will have their visas. Many will not pass as in other years because of errors on documents, inability to prove education, financial or professional experience or long AP processing.... We shall see the results in one year time
 
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House409 said:
Well, all this depends on what those holes are made of. Are they created when DOS is doing a fraud check after the initial and single random draw? If the system is better at finding bogus entries, should it place more holes between legitimate entries, and therefore inflate the cutoff level? Say by 20%, meaning CNs in the mid 40ks would have interview?
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What is happening now is that those entries that were eliminated before the interview (that were holes before, in DV-2013) are no longer holes (some of them, those 20% increase). I think DOS expects to eliminate them at the interview. I have no idea what exactly type of situation it is, I am thinking just statistically
 
Yes, you are right. We shall see. But we are so impatient... ;)

There is still something I don't get though. If they have selected more entries (20% more) with the same number of visas available at the end, how could they interview everyone? Unless they have put in place more stringent criteria to pass the interview, I don't see how this can work.
 
gokhan8282 said:
Hello raevsky. Thanks for the help.

What does photos included mean? I will anyways send dsp-122 and ds-230 in the same envelope right?
Do we attach the photos?
What do we do? Post all forms and photos in the same envelope?

And secondly you said that its depends on the consulate.
why does it matter? Because we people all are going to send it to Kentucky.
it writes 2 photos at the internet site.
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Some consulates require more than two. It is better to send as many as the consulate requires in that case. Otherwise they could ask you to send additional ones.
 
raevsky said:
What is happening now is that those entries that were eliminated before the interview (that were holes before, in DV-2013) are no longer holes (some of them, those 20% increase). I think DOS expects to eliminate them at the interview. I have no idea what exactly type of situation it is, I am thinking just statistically
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How did you get the 2014 statistics? I cannot get anything by status checking system?
 
Lucky18 said:
How did you get your data in 2014? I could not get anything out by putting mine number in the status checking system.
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Nope, it won't work until the number becomes current. The statistics I use is from Russian immigration forum. You can see the date when person reported being selected and approximate number. For both DV-2013 and DV-2014. So you can see how many persons reported their wins at each date.
 
Lucky18 said:
How did you get the 2014 statistics? I cannot get anything by status checking system?
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DV-2013

Date appeared Post number Country Rank number min Rank number max
1-May-12 2 Russia 4000 4999
1-May-12 3 Russia 14000 14999
1-May-12 5 Uzbekistan 3000 3999
1-May-12 6 Russia 11000 11999
1-May-12 7 Russia 25000 25999
1-May-12 8 Russia 4000 4999
1-May-12 9 Kazakhstan 10000 10999
1-May-12 10 Russia 21000 21999
1-May-12 11 Russia 900 999
1-May-12 12 Russia 25000 25999
2-May-12 13 Russia 1 999
2-May-12 14 Tajikistan 20000 29999
2-May-12 15 Russia 10000 10999
2-May-12 16 Russia 20000 20999
2-May-12 17 Russia 21000 21999
2-May-12 18 Russia 19000 19999
2-May-12 19 Ukraine 4000 4999
2-May-12 20 Ukraine 12000 12999
2-May-12 21 Belarus 17000 17999
2-May-12 22 Russia 1 100000
2-May-12 23 Russia 14000 14999
2-May-12 24 Russia 5000 5999
2-May-12 25 Russia 11000 11999
2-May-12 26 Russia 27000 27999
2-May-12 27 Russia 1 100000
2-May-12 30 Ukraine 9000 9999
2-May-12 31 Azerbaijan 26000 26999
2-May-12 32 Belarus 7000 7999
2-May-12 33 Italy 1 100000
2-May-12 34 Kazakhstan 1000 1999
2-May-12 36 Kazakhstan 800 899
2-May-12 38 Moldova 1 100000
2-May-12 39 Ukraine 1000 1999
2-May-12 40 Russia 15000 15999
2-May-12 41 Russia 21000 21999
2-May-12 42 Ukraine 100 199
2-May-12 44 Russia 5000 5999
2-May-12 45 Russia 20000 20999
2-May-12 46 Ukraine 6000 6999
2-May-12 47 Moldova 3500 3599
2-May-12 48 Russia 12000 12999
2-May-12 49 Russia 1 100000
2-May-12 50 Belgium 25000 25999
2-May-12 51 Kazakhstan 5000 5999
2-May-12 52 Ukraine 10000 19999
2-May-12 53 Tajikistan 1 100000
3-May-12 58 Russia 9000 9999
3-May-12 59 Russia 15000 15999
3-May-12 60 Kazakhstan 15000 15999
3-May-12 61 Russia 2700 2799
3-May-12 62 Russia 23000 23999
4-May-12 63 Belarus 24000 24999
4-May-12 64 Uzbekistan 1 100000
4-May-12 69 Uzbekistan 22000 22999
4-May-12 70 Belarus 21000 21999
5-May-12 71 Uzbekistan 16000 16999
5-May-12 72 Uzbekistan 10000 10099
5-May-12 73 Russia 17000 17999
7-May-12 75 Belarus 21100 21199
8-May-12 76 Russia 26000 26999
9-May-12 77 Russia 17000 17999
9-May-12 78 Ukraine 3000 3999
9-May-12 79 Russia 12000 12999
9-May-12 80 Moldova 20000 20999
10-May-12 81 Russia 5000 5999
11-May-12 82 Moldova 8000 8999
12-May-12 83 Russia 1 100000
13-May-12 84 Belarus 7000 7999
15-May-12 85 Kazakhstan 2000 2999
16-May-12 86 Kazakhstan 12000 12999
16-May-12 87 Russia 1000 1999
20-May-12 88 Russia 25000 25999
23-May-12 89 Russia 23000 23999
24-May-12 90 Georgia 12000 12999
31-May-12 91 Russia 1 100000
1-Jun-12 92 Tajikistan 11000 11999
3-Jun-12 93 Russia 1000 1999
3-Jun-12 94 Uzbekistan 6000 6999
4-Jun-12 95 Uzbekistan 3000 3999
5-Jun-12 96 Russia 100 199
5-Jun-12 97 Russia 27100 27199
5-Jun-12 98 Tajikistan 19000 19999
7-Jun-12 99 Latvia 23000 23999
20-Jun-12 100 Russia 15000 15999
21-Jun-12 101 Kyrgyzstan 12000 12999
21-Jun-12 102 Azerbaijan 17000 17999
22-Jun-12 103 Belarus 8000 8999
23-Jun-12 104 Kyrgyzstan 4000 4999
23-Jun-12 105 Armenia 11000 11999
3-Jul-12 106 Russia 21000 21999
3-Jul-12 107 Ukraine 3000 3999
20-Jul-12 108 Ukraine 7000 7999
29-Jul-12 109 Ukraine 9000 9999
23-Aug-12 110 Ukraine 10000 10999
31-Aug-12 111 Russia 25000 25999
4-Sep-12 112 Belarus 5000 5999
4-Sep-12 113 Belarus 2000 2999
7-Sep-12 114 Ukraine 8000 8999
8-Sep-12 115 Russia 13000 13999
12-Sep-12 117 Russia 10000 10999
12-Sep-12 118 Kazakhstan 1000 1999
2-Oct-12 119 Russia 4000 4999
22-Oct-12 120 Russia 30000 30999
22-Oct-12 121 Belarus 28000 28999
22-Oct-12 122 Russia 4000 4999
24-Oct-12 124 Ukraine 2000 2999
24-Oct-12 128 Armenia 29000 29999
25-Oct-12 129 Russia 27000 27999
26-Oct-12 130 Belarus 29000 29999
9-Nov-12 131 Russia 26000 26999
15-Nov-12 132 Ukraine 6000 6999
16-Nov-12 133 Azerbaijan 17000 17999
17-Nov-12 134 Russia 3000 3999
13-Mar-13 135 Kazakhstan 23000 23999
25-Apr-13 136 Belarus 17000 17999
1-May-13 137 Russia 7000 7999


DV-2014 so far
Date appeared Post number Country Rank number min Rank number max
1-May-13 2 Belarus 11000 11999
1-May-13 3 Ukraine 9800 9899
1-May-13 4 Belarus 25000 25999
1-May-13 5 Uzbekistan 4000 4999
1-May-13 6 Kazakhstan 14000 14999
1-May-13 7 Moldova 38000 38999
1-May-13 8 Russia 14000 14999
1-May-13 9 Russia 49000 49999
1-May-13 10 Russia 51000 51999
1-May-13 11 Russia 8900 8999
1-May-13 12 Kazakhstan 50000 59999
1-May-13 13 Russia 41000 41999
1-May-13 14 Russia 40000 49999
1-May-13 15 Russia 9000 9999
1-May-13 16 Turkmenistan 38000 38999
1-May-13 17 Belarus 24000 24999
1-May-13 18 Russia 10000 10999
1-May-13 19 Russia 5000 5999
1-May-13 20 Ukraine 1 999
1-May-13 21 Russia 19000 19999
1-May-13 22 Russia 39000 39999
1-May-13 23 Cyprus 15000 15999
1-May-13 24 Russia 6200 6299
1-May-13 25 Russia 40000 49999
1-May-13 26 Belarus 16000 16999
1-May-13 27 Kazakhstan 25000 25999
1-May-13 28 Uzbekistan 9500 9599
1-May-13 29 Russia 1 200000
1-May-13 30 Russia 13000 13999
1-May-13 31 Russia 31000 31999
1-May-13 32 Russia 35000 35999
1-May-13 33 Ukraine 10000 19999
1-May-13 34 Russia 41000 41999
1-May-13 35 Russia 19000 19999
1-May-13 36 Russia 17000 17999
1-May-13 37 Russia 37000 37999
1-May-13 38 Russia 1000 1999
1-May-13 39 Russia 8000 8999
1-May-13 40 Russia 26000 26999
1-May-13 41 Azerbaijan 45000 45999
1-May-13 42 Unknown 12000 12999
1-May-13 43 Russia 38000 38999
2-May-13 44 Russia 18000 18999
2-May-13 45 Azerbaijan 600 699
2-May-13 46 Moldova 47500 47599
2-May-13 47 Ukraine 17000 17999
2-May-13 48 Russia 27000 27999
2-May-13 49 Russia 38000 38999
2-May-13 50 Russia 6200 6299
2-May-13 51 Russia 17000 17999
2-May-13 52 Russia 17000 17999
2-May-13 53 Russia 25000 25999
2-May-13 54 Russia 45000 45999
2-May-13 55 Armenia 16000 16999
2-May-13 56 Russia 24000 24999
2-May-13 57 Russia 1 200000
2-May-13 59 Moldova 35000 35999
2-May-13 60 Belarus 26000 26999
2-May-13 61 Russia 34000 34999
2-May-13 62 Russia 53000 53999
2-May-13 63 Belarus 27000 27999
2-May-13 64 Russia 17000 17999
2-May-13 65 Belarus 48000 48999
2-May-13 66 Russia 18000 18999
2-May-13 67 Belarus 43000 43999
2-May-13 68 Russia 49000 49999
2-May-13 69 Ukraine 7000 7999
2-May-13 70 Russia 50000 50999
2-May-13 72 Russia 12000 12999
2-May-13 73 Russia 53000 53999
3-May-13 75 Russia 35000 35999
3-May-13 76 Russia 40000 40999
3-May-13 77 Kazakhstan 26000 26999
3-May-13 78 Azerbaijan 1000 1999
3-May-13 79 Kazakhstan 1000 1999
3-May-13 85 Russia 13000 13999
3-May-13 81 Belarus 46000 46999
3-May-13 82 Russia 30000 39999
3-May-13 83 Russia 7000 7999
3-May-13 84 Latvia 20000 20999
3-May-13 85 Kazakhstan 52000 52999
3-May-13 86 Belarus 53000 53999
3-May-13 87 Russia 18000 18999
3-May-13 88 Russia 50000 59999
3-May-13 89 Belarus 31000 31999
3-May-13 91 Moldova 9000 9999
3-May-13 91 Moldova 22000 22999
3-May-13 91 Russia 11000 11999
3-May-13 92 Ukraine 13000 13999
4-May-13 94 Russia 10000 19999
4-May-13 95 Russia 17000 17999
4-May-13 95 Russia 2000 2999
4-May-13 96 Tajikistan 16000 16999
4-May-13 97 Russia 15000 15999
4-May-13 98 Russia 29000 29999
4-May-13 99 Russia 29000 29999
4-May-13 100 Latvia 16000 16999
5-May-13 101 Unknown 12000 12999
5-May-13 103 Russia 15000 15999
5-May-13 104 Russia 20000 20999
5-May-13 105 Russia 34000 34999
5-May-13 106 Russia 10000 19999
5-May-13 107 Kyrgyzstan 52000 52999
5-May-13 108 Russia 47000 47999
5-May-13 109 Russia 52000 52999
5-May-13 110 Russia 7000 7999
5-May-13 111 Russia 1 200000
5-May-13 114 Tajikistan 10000 19999
5-May-13 115 Russia 10000 10999
5-May-13 116 Belarus 5000 5999
5-May-13 117 Kazakhstan 35000 35999
5-May-13 118 Russia 6000 6999
5-May-13 119 Ukraine 11000 11999
5-May-13 120 Russia 16000 16999
5-May-13 121 Russia 46000 46999
5-May-13 123 Russia 17000 17999
6-May-13 124 Russia 29000 29999
6-May-13 125 Russia 6000 6999
6-May-13 126 Russia 1000 1999
6-May-13 127 Russia 46000 46999
6-May-13 128 Ukraine 1 999
6-May-13 129 Kazakhstan 51000 51999
6-May-13 131 Russia 43000 43999
6-May-13 132 Moldova 48000 48999
6-May-13 133 Russia 42000 42999
7-May-13 137 Russia 26000 26999
7-May-13 138 Russia 48000 48999
7-May-13 139 Belarus 49000 49999
7-May-13 140 Russia 34000 34999
7-May-13 141 Russia 15000 15999
7-May-13 139 Ukraine 2000 2999
7-May-13 140 Uzbekistan 15000 15999
 
raevsky said:
Nope, it won't work until the number becomes current. The statistics I use is from Russian immigration forum. You can see the date when person reported being selected and approximate number. For both DV-2013 and DV-2014. So you can see how many persons reported their wins at each date.
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How big is your sample? Even if you get some difference, is it statistically significant? I think we'd better wait until vb come out.
 
alindragos said:
I am more and more convinced that every selected CN will receive a chance for the interview. Now, from there on is a different kind of story and I stand to my statements and say that if no or less delay will made on aswering to the confirmation and if all documents will be in order, many selected individuals will have their visas.
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Well, the fact remains that there are 125K selectees as opposed to 100K. Everything else being equal, there will be more people who won't be able to get a GC.

I think that this 125K business can be due to sequestration. There are enormous budget cuts in every governmental organization; maybe DoS thought it'd be somehow cheaper or more efficient to have 125K selectees? Just a guess.
 
125K vs 105K, not 100K; DV-2013 had 105K winners
sequestration has nothing to do with it, it is not on budget, DV program covers itself
 
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Lucky18 said:
How big is your sample? Even if you get some difference, is it statistically significant? I think we'd better wait until vb come out.
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VB will not have that information anyway. data from the forum shows only open wins while VB shows all wins, open and close. VB does not distinguish between open and close wins and never did. That is why forum data shows much larger increase than VB data will show.
 
raevsky said:
VB will not have that information anyway. data from the forum shows only open wins while VB shows all wins, open and close. VB does not distinguish between open and close wins and never did
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The cutoff number before all current is usually 5 times of oct cutoff number. That is what I have seen in Asia these pervious years. I don't know if you have run a statistic analysis or not. Otherwise, i cannot get any usefull information from the whole bunch of data you listed there.
 
My number AS19XXX. If oct cutoff is around 4000, many I still have a chance. If lower than that, I will totally give it up. Am I right?
 
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