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Dv 2013 kenyan selectees report here!!!!

We are still processing your papers-kcc reply

nesh, lets hope everything gonna be nice, yu'll get yua letta; i also av a guy who is current on oct but not yet received 2nl.
Even the letters were not released at one day, so yua day must come. Relax n' remember the most high.

i called the kcc and they said they are still processing the papers
 
how it was

Immigrant Number Use for Visa Issuances and Adjustments of Status in the Diversity Immigrant Category Fiscal Years 2001-2010
Foreign State2001200220032004200520062007200820092010
Algeria441572343300420476338823798797
Angola32522644146
Benin4122594384139121183198223
Botswana46223111009
Burkina Faso4071019533111792109
Burundi10213516292242
Cameroon3534605264956268047481,1901,5301,581
Cape Verde2200002080
Central African Republic23212100311
Chad175369377106
Comoros0000132125
DRC15416928867296354317511601924
Congo8563182527432034
Ivory Coast70421176289103138194215230
Djibouti428325515119
Egypt1,2841,1069821,7263,5113,5383,5273,3103,6513,253
Equatorial Guinea1010010102
Eritrea3119614294168162194302392368
Ethiopia3,4643,2223,7843,6593,4923,5023,2483,5493,6903,774
Gabon05225891857
Gambia1844322241272615
Ghana1,1251,8091,6108051,1341,2099781,8681,9122,660
Guinea3825182320493510986268
Guinea Bissau0112400001
Kenya1,0141,4872,2721,9931,7861,8071,3332,1872,3652,420
Lesotho0000000001
Liberia314461439488309388507580831848
Libya1613552161911235670
Madagascar8810104105132715
Malawi1016151512134201317
Mali11611682022344338
Mauritania10826371382
Mauritius1081115423222120
Morocco3,3651,2052,0451,7532,2431,8311,6722,1292,0041,782
Mozambique6232001013
Namibia10325300100
Niger12151811132620422120
Nigeria2,8542,6943,3863,3352,5283,2713,1833,4253,2752,834
Rwanda40658151619443265
Sao Tome & Principe0000000000
Senegal98586033667471104163128
Seychells0300032030
Sierra Leone776813146159138175206438547314
Somalia3762119838614221407071
South Africa201265342132161164151235301303
Southern Sudan----------
Sudan861611511223384359279502592557
Swaziland0000321020
Tanzania11513719183104122817213765
Togo4515641,4341,3141,084458468469483507
Tunisia42603338464746435368
Uganda66100100739896122152170158
Zambia61556039262742653841
Zimbabwe43514747698429479665
Africa Total18,10616,40719,22717,14619,11819,54818,04622,96024,64824,745


Queries regarding the above Stats
1:Are Sao Tome & Principe/Lesotho inhabitants that unlucky such as to not secure DV visas for 10 straight years?
2:Comoros/Cape Verde/Guinea Bissau/Seychelles securing single digits with reference to securing of visas?

Lessons regarding the above Stats
1:Egypt & Ethiopia have time & again breached the 3,500 cap.
2:Anglophone states appear to have an advantage(perhaps they do apply in greater numbers).
3:It seems Africa's share is on the up & up.

Feel free to contribute...
 
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Hey guys i can see that tension is rising each and everyday..we just need to be calm and all will be well, confidence is the key issue..when you go for the interview..its alright one to change his career, i think that guy froze , you must be able to justify you change of career..wacha tungojee guinea pig wetu aende then atushow vile kumekua though i beleive most interview ni unique to an individual..lets pray for Wankin asi wankiwe...:):)
Oooh my..................All eyes....................We're the ones to test the bridge? Anyway God knows.
 
Initially,I never used to bother since I guess it doesn't affect me;but one could end up in the US sooner for a variety of reasons & thus would reqiure AOS processing(Unless u hv chums to fly back for CP & the back again to the US).


Not to burst ur bubble,this I'm aware of but the figure,3500, isn't cast in stone.Ethiopia has blown through it 6x(03,04,06,08,09 & 2010),how about that!!!!Infact,there stats(visa issuances) are better than Naija's!!!
Immigrant Number Use for Visa Issuances and Adjustments of Status in the Diversity Immigrant Category_Ethiopia
Fiscal year2001200220032004200520062007200820092010
Grand total3,4643,2223,7843,6593,4923,5023,2483,5493,6903,774


Immigrant Number Use for Visa Issuances and Adjustments of Status in the Diversity Immigrant Category_Kenya
Fiscal year2001200220032004200520062007200820092010
Grand total1,0141,4872,2721,9931,7861,8071,3332,1872,3652,420

Immigrant Number Use for Visa Issuances and Adjustments of Status in the Diversity Immigrant Category_Uganda
Fiscal year2001200220032004200520062007200820092010
Grand total66100100739896122152170158

Immigrant Number Use for Visa Issuances and Adjustments of Status in the Diversity Immigrant Category_Nigeria
Fiscal year2001200220032004200520062007200820092010
Grand total2,8542,6943,3863,3352,5283,2713,1833,4253,2752,834
actually its 4410.

I beg to differ...I f I were to have 10 kids within the next 1 year & succeed @ the interview,the visa numbers reduce by 10!!!(according to what I've gathered soo far).Do bear in mind that ur derivatives will be eating into the 50k visa pool thus the 50k isn't specifically for thee principal applicants.(I stand to be corrected).

redistributed perhaps..take Ethiopia's case!!


We have 105,628 selectees(excluding derivatives) chasing 50k visas; rat race indeed.


We have states with zero winners;eg Lesotho,Sao tome & Principe et al.

well said.


Very good info. Those guys have the discretion to bend the rules I can see.

Any stats on visa denials and the common reasons given?
 
Make sure you read this,please!!

American Embassy Nairobi and Green Card Lottery
By Guest Author | Tue, 05/01/2012 01:09AM -0400
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The USA is a nation that prides herself in democracy, the rule of law and the application of the law equally to all. Should one of the laws that govern any specific arm of the government change or is amended, every effort is made to let everyone know about the change thereof. When a service is rendered it is rendered within the law and if there be any refusal, of any kind, it also is within the law. This is also true of all her embassies and consulates around the world. They all work within laws that have been put in place.

However, I'm afraid to say, that has not been so in this particular case that I am writing about. Sometimes the same laws that govern the conduct of government business can be flouted by the very people who should be upholding them as is the case in one green card case scenario at the American Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya.

A Kenyan citizen entered the green card lottery also known as the Diversity Visa Program or DV in 2010. In July of last year she was notified that she had been selected as one of those who can pursue their application further. She had to fill some forms with very specific details of herself after which she was to send in the forms together with passport size photos of herself to Kentucky Consular Center. She complied with all the requirements and sent the forms at the end of last year. After a few weeks she received a notification from Kentucky telling her that they were finished processing her case and will be sending her details to the American Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya where they booked her a visa interview appointment.

Before going for the interview, she was required to take a medical examination, get a good conduct certificate from the police and have all her Original documents like school certificates and birth certificate with her when she goes for the interview. She did the medical examination and meticulously got all the documents ready before the interview date. On the day of the interview she was early as it is required and went through the process. She had her documents verified, her fingerprints were taken and so she was very hopeful. To her disappointment the visa was denied and the reason given was that she did not meet the educational requirement. She had a D plain in her exam and the required minimum grade is a C plain as per what the interviewing officer told her. She was told that the requirement had changed and so they would not issue her the visa. This meant kshs 66,000(for that is what it had costed her to the interview point) went up in smoke.

When I got wind of what had happened, I wrote the Kentucky Consular Center requesting a clarification of what the laws says concerning educational requirement.
They replied as follows: The law creating the Diversity Immigrant Visa Program states: To qualify for a diversity visa you must have either a high school education or its equivalent, or two years of work experience. A high school education means successful completion of a formal course of elementary and secondary education comparable to completion of a twelve-year course in the United States.

Having read what the law states about educational requirement, I wrote to The Us Embassy Nairobi, Kenya asking them to explain the apparent contradiction of what the law above states and the C plain minimum grade requirement at the US embassy in Kenya. I also asked them to let me know when the law changed and how it could have changed in Nairobi without the knowledge of Kentucky Consular Center. I also wanted to know whether they had notified the Kenyan public so that those who did not meet this requirement should not even bother pursuing the process.

The US embassy Nairobi replied to only two of my emails and in both of those emails they avoided these questions like a plague. They only repeated the same thing twice. She did not meet the requirement and the visa was denied. I wrote the Kentucky consular Center with the same questions and they referred me to the US embassy Nairobi but no one answered any of my questions. This seemed suspicious to me as it would to anyone. They should have been able to give me a clear explanation and answers if there was any change whatsoever. The fact that they took me round in circles while avoiding my questions did not seem right at all and it did not feel very convincing to me.

After my round of emails with the Kentucky Consular Center and the US embassy Nairobi, I have decided to send this email to media houses so that the people out there, who have applied or are in the process, may know that the minimum grade requirement at the US embassy Nairobi, is now a C plain. Don’t waste your time and resources if you have anything lower than a C plain. You might end up spending as much as this Kenyan did and it all went down the drain.

At the same time these questions still remain and I hope that someone reading this will be in a position to answer:

Can you please explain the apparent contradiction between the Laws on educational requirement as it appears on the official website and the C plain requirement at the US embassy, Nairobi?
Where does the law requiring a C plain appear in writing on the laws creating the Diversity Immigrant Visa Program?
When did the Educational requirement at The US embassy, Nairobi change and was the public notified of the change?
Does every American embassy around the world have its own laws and requirements on the Diversity Immigrant Visa Program?
Does Kentucky Consular Center books an appointment at an American embassy or consulate for people who don't meet the requirements? Would they even process the case to begin with?

I do sincerely hope that this will be an eye opener to anyone out there oblivious to what is going on at the US embassy Nairobi Kenya.

By Gabriel Nganga (hereistand77@gmail.com)

Disclaimer: The views expressed on this op-ed/blog are solely those of the author and do not reflect the opinions of Mwakilishi News Media, or any other individual, organization, or institution. The content on this op-ed/blog is not intended to malign any religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, or individual. The author himself is responsible for the content of the posts on this op-ed/blog, not any other organization or institution which he might be seen to represent. The author is not responsible, nor will he be held liable, for any statements made by others on this op-ed/blog in the op-ed blog comments, nor the laws which they may break in this country or their own, through their comments’ content, implication, and intent. The author reserves the right to delete comments if and when necessary. The author is not responsible for the content or activities of any sites linked from this op-ed/blog. Unless otherwise indicated, all translations and other content on here are original works of the op-ed/blog author and the copyrights for those works belong to the author.
Original Author:
Gabriel Nganga
SOURCE
http://www.mwakilishi.com/content/b...n-embassy-nairobi-and-green-card-lottery.html
 
American Embassy Nairobi and Green Card Lottery
By Guest Author | Tue, 05/01/2012 01:09AM -0400
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The USA is a nation that prides herself in democracy, the rule of law and the application of the law equally to all. Should one of the laws that govern any specific arm of the government change or is amended, every effort is made to let everyone know about the change thereof. When a service is rendered it is rendered within the law and if there be any refusal, of any kind, it also is within the law. This is also true of all her embassies and consulates around the world. They all work within laws that have been put in place.

However, I'm afraid to say, that has not been so in this particular case that I am writing about. Sometimes the same laws that govern the conduct of government business can be flouted by the very people who should be upholding them as is the case in one green card case scenario at the American Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya.

A Kenyan citizen entered the green card lottery also known as the Diversity Visa Program or DV in 2010. In July of last year she was notified that she had been selected as one of those who can pursue their application further. She had to fill some forms with very specific details of herself after which she was to send in the forms together with passport size photos of herself to Kentucky Consular Center. She complied with all the requirements and sent the forms at the end of last year. After a few weeks she received a notification from Kentucky telling her that they were finished processing her case and will be sending her details to the American Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya where they booked her a visa interview appointment.

Before going for the interview, she was required to take a medical examination, get a good conduct certificate from the police and have all her Original documents like school certificates and birth certificate with her when she goes for the interview. She did the medical examination and meticulously got all the documents ready before the interview date. On the day of the interview she was early as it is required and went through the process. She had her documents verified, her fingerprints were taken and so she was very hopeful. To her disappointment the visa was denied and the reason given was that she did not meet the educational requirement. She had a D plain in her exam and the required minimum grade is a C plain as per what the interviewing officer told her. She was told that the requirement had changed and so they would not issue her the visa. This meant kshs 66,000(for that is what it had costed her to the interview point) went up in smoke.

When I got wind of what had happened, I wrote the Kentucky Consular Center requesting a clarification of what the laws says concerning educational requirement.
They replied as follows: The law creating the Diversity Immigrant Visa Program states: To qualify for a diversity visa you must have either a high school education or its equivalent, or two years of work experience. A high school education means successful completion of a formal course of elementary and secondary education comparable to completion of a twelve-year course in the United States.

Having read what the law states about educational requirement, I wrote to The Us Embassy Nairobi, Kenya asking them to explain the apparent contradiction of what the law above states and the C plain minimum grade requirement at the US embassy in Kenya. I also asked them to let me know when the law changed and how it could have changed in Nairobi without the knowledge of Kentucky Consular Center. I also wanted to know whether they had notified the Kenyan public so that those who did not meet this requirement should not even bother pursuing the process.

The US embassy Nairobi replied to only two of my emails and in both of those emails they avoided these questions like a plague. They only repeated the same thing twice. She did not meet the requirement and the visa was denied. I wrote the Kentucky consular Center with the same questions and they referred me to the US embassy Nairobi but no one answered any of my questions. This seemed suspicious to me as it would to anyone. They should have been able to give me a clear explanation and answers if there was any change whatsoever. The fact that they took me round in circles while avoiding my questions did not seem right at all and it did not feel very convincing to me.

After my round of emails with the Kentucky Consular Center and the US embassy Nairobi, I have decided to send this email to media houses so that the people out there, who have applied or are in the process, may know that the minimum grade requirement at the US embassy Nairobi, is now a C plain. Don’t waste your time and resources if you have anything lower than a C plain. You might end up spending as much as this Kenyan did and it all went down the drain.

At the same time these questions still remain and I hope that someone reading this will be in a position to answer:

Can you please explain the apparent contradiction between the Laws on educational requirement as it appears on the official website and the C plain requirement at the US embassy, Nairobi?
Where does the law requiring a C plain appear in writing on the laws creating the Diversity Immigrant Visa Program?
When did the Educational requirement at The US embassy, Nairobi change and was the public notified of the change?
Does every American embassy around the world have its own laws and requirements on the Diversity Immigrant Visa Program?
Does Kentucky Consular Center books an appointment at an American embassy or consulate for people who don't meet the requirements? Would they even process the case to begin with?

I do sincerely hope that this will be an eye opener to anyone out there oblivious to what is going on at the US embassy Nairobi Kenya.

By Gabriel Nganga (hereistand77@gmail.com)

Disclaimer: The views expressed on this op-ed/blog are solely those of the author and do not reflect the opinions of Mwakilishi News Media, or any other individual, organization, or institution. The content on this op-ed/blog is not intended to malign any religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, or individual. The author himself is responsible for the content of the posts on this op-ed/blog, not any other organization or institution which he might be seen to represent. The author is not responsible, nor will he be held liable, for any statements made by others on this op-ed/blog in the op-ed blog comments, nor the laws which they may break in this country or their own, through their comments’ content, implication, and intent. The author reserves the right to delete comments if and when necessary. The author is not responsible for the content or activities of any sites linked from this op-ed/blog. Unless otherwise indicated, all translations and other content on here are original works of the op-ed/blog author and the copyrights for those works belong to the author.
Original Author:
Gabriel Nganga
SOURCE
http://www.mwakilishi.com/content/b...n-embassy-nairobi-and-green-card-lottery.html

Hi Nesh, i have come across this piece before. Unfortunately, those of us in Uganda dont have the same grading as the KCSE which apparently is what compares to our O'levels. We have divisions 1 to 4(i think). One can only wish that they can look beyond those O'level results and consider all the other academic qualifications one has.
 
Hi Nesh, i have come across this piece before. Unfortunately, those of us in Uganda dont have the same grading as the KCSE which apparently is what compares to our O'levels. We have divisions 1 to 4(i think). One can only wish that they can look beyond those O'level results and consider all the other academic qualifications one has.

Here is an experience from one Moku on the DV2012 Kenya Thread. So it does not really matter what other qualifications one has?

Hi Guys, Did my interview today and was denied the visa as I did not meet the educational requirement. The mean grade for KCSE is C plain while I had C minus despite having a diploma in Legal studies. End of the road for me. Thanks for your advise and encouragement.
 
advice needed

Hi guys,
im a dv 2013 selectee and i have filled all relevant forms and av submitted it to the kcc but in filling the forms i made an error by stating that my Sponsor is my petitioner and ve read from this site that in dv cases the Principal Applicant is the petitioner, i would like to know if by making this error, will my case be affected in any way?
thanks in advance for ur kindest replies and solutions?
 
Name Issue on Diploma

on online application I wrote that i am called Mariya,and in all my official documents(passport,birth certificate,ID card, ....) it is written Mariya but on my diploma it is written Maliya,

Do you think this will be a big issue during my interview?
I need your advice, please
Thank you.
 
Yes it is International Organisation for Migration (the guys incharge of your medicals). The airticket issue is handled from their Westlands office and not where you will do your medicals from.

As for the prefferred airline, I do not know about that. I only know of British Airways. I do not know whether the deal is with other airlines as well.

Thanks Ash for the info, I gathered that only immigrants go to the ngong road office for medicals. Visitors, conference attendees, tourist don do tests at IOM. You can imagine the shock. British Airways would be perfect for me. We shall contact them when time comes. A day at a time.
 
Second notification letter ( 2nl )

Hi guys,i hope you are all well,i am getting worried every new day as i have not yet received my 2nl despite the fact that in the visa bulletin they are saying that they are processing between numbers 1 to 8,000 yet mine is among the last za 4,000.i called the KCC and they said they are processing the papers,i wonder if anybody else above 5,000 in case number has received the same,
Guys i ask for your prayers i hope all turns out well,see?im supposed to be current in October so i fail to understand how it can stay for so long?
At times i ask myself if it couls be because of the mistake i made in date of birth(Someone applied for me n wrote the wrong yr though i wrote to them to correct the mistake)
Meen,its tough!!!
 
Hi guys,i hope you are all well,i am getting worried every new day as i have not yet received my 2nl despite the fact that in the visa bulletin they are saying that they are processing between numbers 1 to 8,000 yet mine is among the last za 4,000.i called the KCC and they said they are processing the papers,i wonder if anybody else above 5,000 in case number has received the same,
Guys i ask for your prayers i hope all turns out well,see?im supposed to be current in October so i fail to understand how it can stay for so long?
At times i ask myself if it couls be because of the mistake i made in date of birth(Someone applied for me n wrote the wrong yr though i wrote to them to correct the mistake)
Meen,its tough!!!


Nesh422, have you checked the Entrant Status Check Web Site?
 
on online application I wrote that i am called Mariya,and in all my official documents(passport,birth certificate,ID card, ....) it is written Mariya but on my diploma it is written Maliya,

Do you think this will be a big issue during my interview?
I need your advice, please
Thank you.

Maybe what you need to do for now is send the correction to KCC, and start working on an affidavit for the purposes of the interview (just in case).

All the best.
 
Hi guys,
im a dv 2013 selectee and i have filled all relevant forms and av submitted it to the kcc but in filling the forms i made an error by stating that my Sponsor is my petitioner and ve read from this site that in dv cases the Principal Applicant is the petitioner, i would like to know if by making this error, will my case be affected in any way?
thanks in advance for ur kindest replies and solutions?

i would like to know if by making this error, will my case be affected in any way?

Congrats on being a selectee...however,as pertains to your error,it's hard to tell since its the CO who'll determine your case during your interview.

I would suggest you fill another form(page 3 of DS-230) & email it to KCC with a cover letter explaining your error.

Regards.
 
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Consider yourself informed.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/87837.pdf

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/87838.pdf

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/87840.pdf

Excerpts from http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/87838.pdf

9 FAM 42.33 N7.3 Education Evaluation
(CT:VISA-1555; 09-30-2010)
U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 9 - Visas
9 FAM 42.33 Notes Page 8 of 11
a. Each post needs to determine what course of study is equivalent to a high school education or its equivalent in the host country. Previously, posts were provided with a guidebook that provided information on high school equivalency country by country. That guidebook ("Foreign Education Credentials Required”) is no longer in print and is not available in updated format. You should not rely on it for your evaluation of high school credentials. You should make use of the resources found in your Public Diplomacy (PD) section to determine comparable courses of study in the host country that would meet the definition of a high school education or its equivalent. Contacts in the host country’s Ministry of Education may also be of help. If you have questions about certificates and diplomas, you should consult with your public diplomacy section, including EducationUSA advisors and locally engaged staff, as they are valuable resources in evaluating local education systems. PD personnel advise prospective students and evaluate their educational backgrounds and have experience with and knowledge of local schools. To determine the authenticity of any particular document, you will need to work with your Fraud Prevention staff to develop expertise in making that determination. Interviewing officers may wish to consult with other posts when in doubt about the authenticity of educational certificates from countries outside their consular district.

b. A DV refusal must be based on evidence that the alien did not in fact obtain the required degree and not on your assessment of the alien's knowledge level. You may not administer an exam, either oral or written, to test an applicant’s basic knowledge in order to determine whether they have the equivalent of a U.S. high school education. You may not refuse a DV applicant solely on the basis of your analysis of the applicant's basic knowledge. Doubts about the applicant’s claimed educational level raised by your interview, however, may lead you to investigate the authenticity of the educational credentials claimed by the DV applicant.

The use of the word may gives them a lot of discretion in adjudicating cases thus making one's case subjective.If the word "will" substituted "may" in the sentence,then it would be absolute_no contest.

9 FAM 42.33 N10.2 Processing Cases to Conclusion
(CT:VISA-910; 10-23-2007)
We can appreciate posts' efforts to prescreen applications allowing unqualified applicants to withdraw their applications to avoid paying the required fees. Nevertheless, it is important to process such cases to conclusion and not to simply allow the candidate to withdraw the application. Instances have arisen where DV winners who were advised not to make an application at a post abroad have then entered the United States and requested adjustment of status processing at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

Now you know why KCC/US embassy wont disqualify you until u r before the CO during the interview & he/she delivers the bad news.

Excerpts from http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/87840.pdf

9 FAM 42.33 PN4 CREATION OF IMMIGRANT VISA FILE
(CT:VISA-754; 07-27-2005)
U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 9 - Visas
9 FAM 42.33 Procedural Notes Page 4 of 7
The KCC will create a DV immigrant visa (IV) file on the principal applicant and qualifying dependents. These files will be shipped to post prior to the visa interview. In cases where a potentially disqualifying factor has been identified at the KCC during case creation, a note will be made in the electronic case file. The file folder will then be stamped “KCC FPU Reviewed” and a red memorandum noting the existence of the disqualifying factor will be included in the paper file for post action.

And now u know.....
 
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Following-to-Join Applicants

DS-230 page 2 of 4_part 1;query..31b

9 FAM 42.33 PN6.4 Following-to-Join Applicants
(CT:VISA-1463; 08-03-2010)
DV applicants are informed in the notification letter of how to adjust status in the United States. Once the principal applicant has adjusted status, DHS will issue a Form I-824, Application for Action on an Approved Application or Petition verifying the adjustment. Upon receipt of this information, posts must send any derivative family members the “Instruction Packages for Immigrant Visa Applicants” and the “Immigrant Visa Appointment Package.” Post must notify the KCC of the adjustment of the principal applicant so that the electronic case can be modified and transmitted to post to allow visa issuance to the derivative family members. Proof of the principal applicant‟s adjustment must be provided to the KCC. Posts can then process these cases to conclusion, obtaining additional DV numbers from the Immigrant Visa Control and Reporting Division (CA/VO/F/I,) as necessary, via VISAS FROG messages (see 9 FAM Appendix E 300). Spouses and children who derive status from a DV registration can only obtain visas in the DV category during the specified Fiscal Year. Applicants cannot follow-to-join after the end of the Fiscal Year.

When I went thru the Ds-230 form the 1st time ,I didn't get query 31b but now its all good.
 
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