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Reg1 said:
Yes you did, but I also mentioned the Asian birth registration had an apostille-certified affidavit by my father, that the newborn's name was changed soon after birth to its final name as shown on the second birth certificate and all subsequent identity docs. So all in all, they both affirm to the same dates, places, final names, life and identity. In my judgement, because of those things it is rather self-evident that its not a different person on each document, so it shouldn't really warrant much of a game-changing process. I feel comfortable I did the right thing according to my conscience and estimation, even knowing KCC would have its own perception and rules over this, that would potentially deprive me of the DV as finally happened. So I let things be, because I wanted to be clear from my side.
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Yep I understand your position. I did not say in my above that I would have advised you not to have told them - but I would have recognized the risk and predicted the outcome. If the same things had come up in June, then maybe they would have had time for rechecking. But as it is, the background check was undermined and there was NO time for rechecking, so KCC could not send the case to the embassy having their checks "certified".

By the way I responded to Susie that this is not because of the new procedure. The reason I say that is because background checks are performed BEFORE the documents are processed, and the processing time for documents we are seeing is almost non existent (meaning you send documents by the end of the month and will be in the batch of cases for scheduling for the next month).

So - this was about undermining the background checks, NOT the document procedure.

Anyway - best of luck. With your positive attitude and honesty, you'll be fine.
 
Britsimon said:
Yep I understand your position. I did not say in my above that I would have advised you not to have told them - but I would have recognized the risk and predicted the outcome. If the same things had come up in June, then maybe they would have had time for rechecking. But as it is, the background check was undermined and there was NO time for rechecking, so KCC could not send the case to the embassy having their checks "certified".

By the way I responded to Susie that this is not because of the new procedure. The reason I say that is because background checks are performed BEFORE the documents are processed, and the processing time for documents we are seeing is almost non existent (meaning you send documents by the end of the month and will be in the batch of cases for scheduling for the next month).

So - this was about undermining the background checks, NOT the document procedure.

Anyway - best of luck. With your positive attitude and honesty, you'll be fine.
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I see, that makes sense. Thanks for the well wishes.
 
Reg1 said:
Actually I was chargeable to Thailand. Personally, I always thought the embassy was the last word. I suppose that with the new upload procedure where documents and police/background certificates are asked in advance, the KCC has expanded and centralised authority not seen in other years. In previous years I've read people coming with documents and background checks at the last moment, during the interview itself, and the consular officer making ad-hoc decision to accept them or not.
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I don’t see this as “expanded authority”, I see it as an effort to ensure that the people being scheduled for interview are actually interested in going/have what they need, to avoid what I understand was previously a significant number of no-shows and being turned away at the consulate for lack of documents. In other words, still an administrative step and totally within KCC’s ambit. Of course, the processing of DS forms (including initial background check) before interviews being scheduled was always part of their job, and simon’s explanation falls into this part.

Your last sentence doesn’t show a change in anything either imo as everyone arrived “with documents at the last moment” at the interview before, by definition, as they were not asked for in advance, and obviously no-one arrived with their background checks as that was always done by the US authorities.
 
SusieQQQ said:
I don’t see this as “expanded authority”, I see it as an effort to ensure that the people being scheduled for interview are actually interested in going/have what they need, to avoid what I understand was previously a significant number of no-shows and being turned away at the consulate for lack of documents. In other words, still an administrative step and totally within KCC’s ambit. Of course, the processing of DS forms (including initial background check) before interviews being scheduled was always part of their job, and simon’s explanation falls into this part.

Your last sentence doesn’t show a change in anything either imo as everyone arrived “with documents at the last moment” at the interview before, by definition, as they were not asked for in advance, and obviously no-one arrived with their background checks as that was always done by the US authorities.
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Nobody is denying that's efficient, but with the new rules KCC suddenly got previously unheld powers to deny interview based on doc screening, which forces candidates to have less time than in the past to get them in order. The docs last year for example were only checked during interview and approved at the discretion of embassy, giving that much more time.

That KCC does the US background check as pre-condition for scheduling interview was news for me, but I understand it now after Simon's explanation. I always though they were triggered upon scheduling interview dates, because of a case I read last year on this forum where the background checks were still running concurrently with the interview. I recall one case where a candidate had the interview which went rather well where all was acceptable, except that the interviewer was still waiting for completion of the FBI background name-check. In a few days that background test concluded succesfully.

Yes, I said people arrived with docs /background checks at the last moment in previous years. I meant police clearance certificates which are essentially background checks for past (international) residence. For US residence that is automatic, but in light of the case mentioned above it's been known to run during, even past the interview for a few days under AP. I suppose such cases will become rare as KCC wants background tests and docs before setting dates. In my opinion that's clearly a new power to deny/allow a candidate to proceed. At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised to see candidates in a not far-off future no longer being told in interview whether or not they're approved, but afterwards. It would fit the increasingly security-minded philosophy and basic overhauling of the US DV program. Maybe that's why people globally seem to be losing interest in general. It's no longer simply a fun lottery, more a casino where you don't know how every next step ends you up.
 
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Any approval in an interview is provisional anyway. Many are not decided at the time, and we’ve seen a number of cases where people are told they’re approved only to be subsequently placed on AP. Anyway, I understand you’re upset and are venting, but I don’t think what you’re posting is entirely accurate. (Certainly entry numbers don’t back up your assertion that people are losing interest, and the example you provide sounds like AOS and not CP - KCC does not deal with AOS.) No point in a back and forth about it though.
 
Reg1 said:
Nobody is denying that's efficient, but with the new rules KCC suddenly got previously unheld powers to deny interview based on doc screening, which forces candidates to have less time than in the past to get them in order. The docs last year for example were only checked during interview and approved at the discretion of embassy, giving that much more time.

That KCC does the US background check as pre-condition for scheduling interview was news for me, but I understand it now after Simon's explanation. I always though they were triggered upon scheduling interview dates, because of a case I read last year on this forum where the background checks were still running concurrently with the interview. I recall one case where a candidate had the interview which went rather well where all was acceptable, except that the interviewer was still waiting for completion of the FBI background name-check. In a few days that background test concluded succesfully.

Yes, I said people arrived with docs /background checks at the last moment in previous years. I meant police clearance certificates which are essentially background checks for past (international) residence. For US residence that is automatic, but in light of the case mentioned above it's been known to run during, even past the interview for a few days under AP. I suppose such cases will become rare as KCC wants background tests and docs before setting dates. In my opinion that's clearly a new power to deny/allow a candidate to proceed. At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised to see candidates in a not far-off future no longer being told in interview whether or not they're approved, but afterwards. It would fit the increasingly security-minded philosophy and basic overhauling of the US DV program. Maybe that's why people globally seem to be losing interest in general. It's no longer simply a fun lottery, more a casino where you don't know how every next step ends you up.
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Hmn KCC did not suddenly get some previously unheld power. KCC has always had the mandate to only schedule selectees considered documentarily qualified. Prior to the new document submission procedure, an applicant is considered documentarily qualified when KCC confirms that the applicant has properly completed and submitted the DS-260. The definition of documentarily qualified however got expanded with the newly introduced advanced document submission.

Even with the new procedure, the background checks conducted by KCC is still considered a “pre screening” which does not prevent someone from going into AP at the end of their interview. Additional background check gets conducted after the interview regardless of the PCC presented before or during the interview - the biometric captured during the interview is used for conducting the additional background check.
 
SusieQQQ said:
Any approval in an interview is provisional anyway. Many are not decided at the time, and we’ve seen a number of cases where people are told they’re approved only to be subsequently placed on AP. Anyway, I understand you’re upset and are venting, but I don’t think what you’re posting is entirely accurate. (Certainly entry numbers don’t back up your assertion that people are losing interest, and the example you provide sounds like AOS and not CP - KCC does not deal with AOS.) No point in a back and forth about it though.
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Well I'm just glad I got to make my case, instead of getting it be approved without complete facts. I've heard of risks where upon requesting naturalisation, even small irregularities discovered in the original immigration file not only disqualify a person from citizenship, even can get their green cards cancelled. I wanted be safe rather than sorry, before investing my whole life in the US. It was a small price to pay. I'm fine with that, and rather than venting I'm rather hoping the many readers on this forum of the Rajiv Khanna Law offices can make their decisions better informed, in light of all experiences and discoveries.
 
Sm1smom said:
Hmn KCC did not suddenly get some previously unheld power. KCC has always had the mandate to only schedule selectees considered documentarily qualified. Prior to the new document submission procedure, an applicant is considered documentarily qualified when KCC confirms that the applicant has properly completed and submitted the DS-260. The definition of documentarily qualified however got expanded with the newly introduced advanced document submission.

Even with the new procedure, the background checks conducted by KCC is still considered a “pre screening” which does not prevent someone from going into AP at the end of their interview. Additional background check gets conducted after the interview regardless of the PCC presented before or during the interview - the biometric captured during the interview is used for conducting the additional background check.
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Well allright, thanks. Good to know. Indeed, it's an expansion of KCC's original definition albeit with extra tools and increased interaction with candidates. I guess it's good in the sense it reduces chances of AP in the end which is much worse. If it transpires a case cannot be fully processed, after the expenditures on doctor's and consular visa fees, it really does become a frustration (especially for families for whom total costs/efforts are no small amount)!
 
For the benefit of anyone's experience, here's a small update. There was a twist. KCC went ahead and scheduled me anyway, with advice to make DS-260 updates via consulate. Knowing visa application details can be stored forever, I've updated them to reflect my newfound truths (lest they ever become an issue) and relocked everything. The embassy was surprisingly efficient and friendly. I'm happy the record is now straight for however long it may exist. Nonetheless, since our previous (but superseded) news that processing on our case had stopped, my family as a whole feels significantly committed to a different destiny and actually so with newfound joy. Hence, we decided it was inappropriate to pursue this DV opportunity and have withdrawn our application. Regardless, many thanks to you all for helpful tips and comments. Wishing you all luck in your own chosen journeys!
 
Reg1 said:
For the benefit of anyone's experience, here's a small update. There was a twist. KCC went ahead and scheduled me anyway, with advice to make DS-260 updates via consulate. Knowing visa application details can be stored forever, I've updated them to reflect my newfound truths (lest they ever become an issue) and relocked everything. The embassy was surprisingly efficient and friendly. I'm happy the record is now straight for however long it may exist. Nonetheless, since our previous (but superseded) news that processing on our case had stopped, my family as a whole feels significantly committed to a different destiny and actually so with newfound joy. Hence, we decided it was inappropriate to pursue this DV opportunity and have withdrawn our application. Regardless, many thanks to you all for helpful tips and comments. Wishing you all luck in your own chosen journeys!
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Interesting. Thanks for letting us know - best of luck!
 
i submitted ds260 from but my mother name spelling was incorrect so i have to open ds260 to correct it or not ...pllz tell me i have to open ds or it can be corrections on interview.
 
navin122@ said:
i submitted ds260 from but my mother name spelling was incorrect so i have to open ds260 to correct it or not ...pllz tell me i have to open ds or it can be corrections on interview.
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Minor as this may sound, my suggestion is to unlock and correct your DS260 form if you’re not yet scheduled for an interview.
 
Hello. I would like to ask for some recommendations. I got mistakes in filling ds 260 as i forgot my middle name to be included. I am principal applicant. I got this ‘oh shit’ moment when im going to fill up my son’s ds 260. My son’s form turn out well but mine wasn’t. We’re are on point of submitting requirements, haven’t scheduled for interview yet. Help me. Please. Would this can affect or delay our application?
 
Mkllarena said:
Hello. I would like to ask for some recommendations. I got mistakes in filling ds 260 as i forgot my middle name to be included. I am principal applicant. I got this ‘oh shit’ moment when im going to fill up my son’s ds 260. My son’s form turn out well but mine wasn’t. We’re are on point of submitting requirements, haven’t scheduled for interview yet. Help me. Please. Would this can affect or delay our application?
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Regardless of if it may delay your processing or not, that is pertinent information that should be provided upfront so you need to update your DS260 with your middle name.
 
Sm1smom said:
Regardless of if it may delay your processing or not, that is pertinent information that should be provided upfront so you need to update your DS260 with your middle name.
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Thank you. By the way, Commonly... how long do we have to wait for the re-processing of ds 260? Does it affect scheduling our interview?
 
Mkllarena said:
Thank you. By the way, Commonly... how long do we have to wait for the re-processing of ds 260? Does it affect scheduling our interview?
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You wait as long as KCC needs to complete the background check bearing in mind interview schedule is based on your CN becoming current AND KCC completing the processing of your documents.
 
Sm1smom said:
You wait as long as KCC needs to complete the background check bearing in mind interview schedule is based on your CN becoming current AND KCC completing the processing of your documents.
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I re-open my ds 260 and got email stated that my case status is ESCALATED. What does it mean?
 
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