bank listed me as US citizen and never asked me for imm. status

Thoughtful said:
The answer is very straight forward: NO, NO NO.
Dont even bother calling on the US national or US citizen differentiation.
THe question on the form is if YOU have made a claim to citizenship. It never asked if anybody has mistakenly listed you as a citizen. For all I know, I may have been listed as a citizen on one of my bank accounts or other institutions. I have no idea.
SO just forget about it as long as you had them change it. If you now know about and do not proceed to change it, then the story moves from being their mistake to you giving consent.
HAve the bank change it and let it go.
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My thought exactly. The question is about the applicant making a claim not about someone else. The applicant cannot be responsible for another person's/institution's actions.
 
I don't see how this is difficult to defend against. Denial and demanding proof is trivial.
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And if he really claimed it, just does not remember it?
Then they will provide the proof easily.
 
raevsky said:
Witnesses could provide testimony (clerks) about his oral statements.
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There's a better chance of winning the lottery three weeks in a row. After a few years (especially with turnover) USCIS couldn't prove he ever set foot in the bank, never mind making a statement. Besides, this information all comes from paper forms, not oral statements, which I suspect after the Patriot Act all need to be retained.
 
Well, the difference between US citizens and US nationals is very helpful to discredit this type of testimony.
 
raevsky said:
Witnesses could provide testimony (clerks) about his oral statements.
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In that case we could be held accountable if you ever sung "proud to be american" Along with other people at a 4th of July parade.
Don't worry about all the small details.
 
(1) a false claim of U.S. citizenship was made,
(2) the misrepresentation was willful (i.e., voluntary and deliberate), and
(3) that it was conveyed to someone with good reason to inquire into his citizenship status

In case of 4th of July elements 1 and 3 are missing.
 
Hi!

Hi!

Just contact your bank and make the correction. I don't think you would have any problem. Besides, you did not do this of your own volition, and you would be answering truthfully that YOU did not claim to be a USC.

Best Wishes,
-jedi



vdostoi1 said:
Folks,
I am getting ready to apply for citizenship and need your input. I know this has been discussed before but I could not find the thread when I used the SEARCH function.

Last night, I went to my bank to add my future wife to my checking account so that we could make it a joint account. The bank teller asked her if she was a USC and she answered that she was a PR. This prompted me to ask the teller what it said in their profile I was since when I opened the account years back I was never asked this question. He checked and said that it says I am a USC and I politely asked him to immediately change it to PR since I am not a USC. Question: do I need to disclose this on my N-400? My inclination is to answer "No" to the question of have I ever claimed to be a USC since this was not my claim, the bank never asked me this info when I opened the account and the only reason I found out is because I happen to have been making changes. My reasoning for answering "no" and being truthful is that the question asks about the applicant's claims to USC. My thinking is that I, the applicant, never claimed USC. The bank claimed that I was without my knowledge so I would be answering truthfully to the question since the question is about the applicant's claims - not someone else's claims. Any input is appreciated.
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raevsky said:
(1) a false claim of U.S. citizenship was made,
(2) the misrepresentation was willful (i.e., voluntary and deliberate), and
(3) that it was conveyed to someone with good reason to inquire into his citizenship status

In case of 4th of July elements 1 and 3 are missing.
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My friend,
USCIS does not check banks for false claims, they only check DMV's, and voter registration. You are making way to much of this.
 
vdostoi1 said:
Thanks. I figured this is a non issue. The claim does have to be willful.
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You have a better chance of winning 10,000,000 bucks then being cought for this! Just put NO. Even if willfully done, USCIS doesn't check bank statements. They don't have those kind of resources.

Here is a story of a guy who actually did claim to be a US citizen on paper, read below, espically raevsky!


http://www.nilc.org/immsemplymnt/ircaempverif/irca058.htm
 
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Wrong. This guy has never claimed to be a US citizen. His statement was somehow misitrepreted first (it is still misinterpreted by somebody else), but the appeal showed the truth.
 
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