Applying for passport: citizenship through parent

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So my younger siblings are both allowed to apply for a US passport because our dad has become a US citizen. Today I went to the local post office and got the passport application forms, and on them it says what documents one has to provide. One of the documents listed is:

the Certificate of Naturalization of your parent.

So does that mean we have to send our dad's certificate? But now both are applying at the same time, how does that work then?

It also says:

proof of your admission to the United States for permanent residence.

Is that the GC?
 
GKER said:
So my younger siblings are both allowed to apply for a US passport because our dad has become a US citizen. Today I went to the local post office and got the passport application forms, and on them it says what documents one has to provide. One of the documents listed is:

the Certificate of Naturalization of your parent.

So does that mean we have to send our dad's certificate? But now both are applying at the same time, how does that work then?

It also says:

proof of your admission to the United States for permanent residence.

Is that the GC?
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Proof of admission is the GC. Your siblings will have to submit the original GCs with the passport applications. The cards will be returned to them once the processing has been completed. With regards to the parent's natz certificate, they will have to take turns applying. Since each application is processed separately, they will have to submit their backup documentation separately as well.
 
GKER said:
So my younger siblings are both allowed to apply for a US passport because our dad has become a US citizen. Today I went to the local post office and got the passport application forms, and on them it says what documents one has to provide. One of the documents listed is:

the Certificate of Naturalization of your parent.

So does that mean we have to send our dad's certificate? But now both are applying at the same time, how does that work then?

It also says:

proof of your admission to the United States for permanent residence.

Is that the GC?
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They do NOT have to "take turns" applying!

1st time PP applicants apply in person AND children must be accompanied by the parents. They apply simultaneously. An alternative is to file N-600s with USCIS 1st and then the children will have their own Certificates to use instead of dad's. The N-600s do not require dad's original natz cert.
 
BigJoe5 said:
They do NOT have to "take turns" applying!

1st time PP applicants apply in person AND children must be accompanied by the parents. They apply simultaneously.
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Yeah, but at the time they come, with the parents, to apply for passport, say at the Post Office passport application center, the original naturalization certificate of their father will be taken away by the clerk accepting their application, and it'll be forwarded to the State Department together with the passport application(s). Wouldn't that present a problem if both children apply for a passport at the same time?
 
They send passport applications for all family members together, in the same envelope, including both parents and all children under 18 who require parents' consent.
 
BigJoe5 said:
They do NOT have to "take turns" applying!

1st time PP applicants apply in person AND children must be accompanied by the parents. They apply simultaneously. An alternative is to file N-600s with USCIS 1st and then the children will have their own Certificates to use instead of dad's. The N-600s do not require dad's original natz cert.
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If this is the case, I stand corrected. Does this mean that the USPS can include both applications in the same package and the Department of State will process both at the same time, using the father's natz certificate for both?
 
It is unlikely they will be processed at the same time. Even if you order passport book and passport card for the same person on the same application, there will be time difference between the days they are processed.
 
raevsky said:
It is unlikely they will be processed at the same time. Even if you order passport book and passport card for the same person on the same application, there will be time difference between the days they are processed.
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This is exactly why baikal3 and I are wondering if one of the two children applying at the same time would have a problem having his/her application processed. I could be wrong, but it seems like sending in two concurrent applications with only one natz certificate to back up both of them is asking for confusion. Again, I could be wrong. I'd love to hear from someone who underwent this type of passport processing.
 
I suspect processing of family applications like that is done in stages. The first stage would be verifcation of citizenship/nationality for all relevant family members. Once that is done, they process each particular passport requested.
However, I could be mistaken.
 
Applying together won't be a problem. People do that all the time when applying for their own passport + their child(ren)'s passport at the same time. Have the children show up together with the parents, and the people who accept the application at the post office or passport agency will take the appropriate steps to ensure all the applications are linked to the same naturalization certificate.
 
Damn, I'm getting old. I could have sworn the OP as asking about him/herself after the siblings had applied for a passport...
 
So we just applied for the passports and both applications will be processed together.


They never took their GC, so what happens with it when they get the passport?
 
GKER said:
So we just applied for the passports and both applications will be processed together.


They never took their GC, so what happens with it when they get the passport?
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The GCs are overseen by the USCIS, not the Department of State. Once your siblings' passport applications are processed, they will become citizens. You may want to schedule an InfoPass at your local DO to notify the USCIS of your siblings' new status and to hand in the GCs.
 
They need to surrender plastic GC in order to get certificate of citizenship in the same way you surendered yours to get certificate of naturalization
 
Vorpal said:
The GCs are overseen by the USCIS, not the Department of State. Once your siblings' passport applications are processed, they will become citizens.
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The siblings already became US citizens with the naturalization of their parent(s), if the conditions of the Child Citizenship Act have been met (under 18, living in the custody of a citizen parent etc.). Obtaining the US passport gives official recognition of their US citizenship, but it doesn't make them become citizens.
 
IF you HATE your younger siblings, here is what to do to make their lives much more complicated! DISCOURAGE them from applying for their own Certificates of Citizenship via form N-600, steal and hide or destroy their greencards, and make sure that any documentary evidence that proves their claim to citizenship is lost somehow (in a flood or fire). THEN as soon as they are old enough (after their passports have expired) steer them into some minor criminal activity and make sure they get arrested. When that happens, they will then be the quintessential "undocumented citizens" who become embroiled in Removal Proceedings and long-term ICE detention and have to become involved in a long and very expensive legal battle to prove their citizenship that could have been avoided!

On the other hand, if you LIKE your siblings, encourage Dad to file their N-600s before the price goes up again.

Your choice.
 
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Were we supposed to send the applicants GCs with the application? They never asked for their GCs, but the passport form said:

"proof of your admission to the United States for permanent residence."



Did they forget to ask about the GC in the post office? Will the application be rejected?
 
GKER said:
Were we supposed to send the applicants GCs with the application? They never asked for their GCs, but the passport form said:

"proof of your admission to the United States for permanent residence."



Did they forget to ask about the GC in the post office?
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Were the GCs shown to the post office worker?

Will the application be rejected?
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If something important is missing from the application, the parents will be contacted and given the opportunity to submit the missing document(s).
 
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