Voting Before Naturalization Can Cause you Problems

If that Erhard Van Vuuren did get off the hook, I doubt that it is because of technicality. He did vote and laws say voting without cizenship is deportable.

Techincally speaking, failure to file AR-11 is deportable but almost no one ever get deported for that

There is a defense to not filing the AR-11 if the failure was "was reasonably excusable or was not willful." No such defense exists for unlawful voting. If they decide to pursue anyone for illegal voting, the only relief that I can think of is cancellation of removal IF the person meets the 7/5 rule.
 
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Here is the letter I am planning to send with the required document. Please let me know if I need to add or remove something. I wrote it with all my heart and truthfully:
Dear officer .....,
First, I would like to thank you for your time and generosity during the interview on 07/13/09.
I have enclosed all the documents you have requested for your convenience.
I would like you to know that on 01/19/2000, I signed a voting registration form as part of my application for my State ID. I had been in the US for exactly 1 year and 3 months, I can promise you that my English then was not good enough and I remember struggling with basic questions in any form or application I came across. I signed all the forms and gave them back not paying attention to the fact that I must be a US citizen to vote. I thought voting registration is part of ID application. I voted with my x-wife on 11/07/2000 (not 2004 as I stated in my N-400), because I thought if they mailed me a voting card, I needed to vote. After words, I knew that I was not eligible to vote, and I am being honest again, I honestly don’t remember how and when I knew this. It may had come up in a conversation with someone after the elections and I had never voted since then.
When I was interviewed for GC, I was asked the same question and I answered it truthfully, as I did with you. Unfortunately, no one had ever told me to remove my name from the registry or anything else. I thought I had to register in every election to be able to vote and since I did not register after that (2000) it has never crossed my mind that I was still registered. I would have never voted if I had known that I was not eligible. The last thing I want to do is to jeopardize my chances. I did not gain anything from voting, so why would I do it knowingly or intentionally?
I have maintained good criminal, employment, credit, school and even driving records all my life and during my 10 years in the US. I am in school pursuing a B.S in Business Administration and I have never been arrested or committed a crime of any kind, I paid my taxes year after year and I have a 3.58/4.00 GPA. I am also a good father of a 4-Year-Old US citizen baby and have a lot of respect for people and good values in general.
Becoming a US citizen is something I have always dreamed of, and to me, it is my new birthday, my new person and my new life. I love this country more than my birth country because I am treated as a human, I feel respected and protected in here more than anywhere in the world. This country gave me so much and I would like to be able to give back as a US citizen and live the life I came for 10 years ago.
I would do whatever it takes to make up for my stupid mistake if I have to. I have been honest and truthful about any mistake I made unknowingly and I would do whatever I need to correct it and make up for it.
Thank you for taking the time to read my letter and for everything you do for us. Every person you interview, remembers you for the rest of her/his life, because you are the person who opens the door to our new and honorable lives as US Citizens.

do yourself a favor and let a lawyer take care of this.
 
By current law, will deportees lose social security benefits
assuming he already cumulated 40 credits? 401(k) etc will still be
his property to keep right?

If he determines to be at peace with the reality, then everything
he wants is to make hius departure from USA as smooth as
possible.
 
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Normally--
It depends on the bi-lateral agreements that exist bewteen US and the country the person was deported.
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Note: I am not a lawyer and I am just a lay man without any legal knwledge.!
Read the above STRICTLY at your own risk.

I think one can simply leave to make deportation not necessary.
After he leaves, he can go to the US consulate to turn in his green card
(there is such a form to do it). The only factor is how much time does
one have to settle things Selling real estatte such as house is the
hardest part. But one can leave first and let his/her spouses handle
that -- unless both face deportation together.

Other assets like bank, mutual fund, stocks etc can be handled from
outside USA nowadays
 
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For any serious immigration violations--
For serious offenses that ICE/CIS files-not possible .

Which is not possible?

If one leaves, then there is no need for deportation. Deport whom
and from where? The whole point of deportation is make someone
leave by force. If the person already leaves, it can only save ICE money
and trouble.

And I doubt ICE has the power to freeze assets of the people
who left USA and still have their money deposited in US banks
(they may need to change their tax status to non-resident
but that is IRS issue not ICE or USCIS issue)
 
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Here is the letter I am planning to send with the required document. Please let me know if I need to add or remove something. I wrote it with all my heart and truthfully:
Dear officer .....,
First, I would like to thank you for your time and generosity during the interview on 07/13/09.
I have enclosed all the documents you have requested for your convenience.
I would like you to know that on 01/19/2000, I signed a voting registration form as part of my application for my State ID. I had been in the US for exactly 1 year and 3 months, I can promise you that my English then was not good enough and I remember struggling with basic questions in any form or application I came across. I signed all the forms and gave them back not paying attention to the fact that I must be a US citizen to vote. I thought voting registration is part of ID application. I voted with my x-wife on 11/07/2000 (not 2004 as I stated in my N-400), because I thought if they mailed me a voting card, I needed to vote. After words, I knew that I was not eligible to vote, and I am being honest again, I honestly don’t remember how and when I knew this. It may had come up in a conversation with someone after the elections and I had never voted since then.
When I was interviewed for GC, I was asked the same question and I answered it truthfully, as I did with you. Unfortunately, no one had ever told me to remove my name from the registry or anything else. I thought I had to register in every election to be able to vote and since I did not register after that (2000) it has never crossed my mind that I was still registered. I would have never voted if I had known that I was not eligible. The last thing I want to do is to jeopardize my chances. I did not gain anything from voting, so why would I do it knowingly or intentionally?
I have maintained good criminal, employment, credit, school and even driving records all my life and during my 10 years in the US. I am in school pursuing a B.S in Business Administration and I have never been arrested or committed a crime of any kind, I paid my taxes year after year and I have a 3.58/4.00 GPA. I am also a good father of a 4-Year-Old US citizen baby and have a lot of respect for people and good values in general.
Becoming a US citizen is something I have always dreamed of, and to me, it is my new birthday, my new person and my new life. I love this country more than my birth country because I am treated as a human, I feel respected and protected in here more than anywhere in the world. This country gave me so much and I would like to be able to give back as a US citizen and live the life I came for 10 years ago.
I would do whatever it takes to make up for my stupid mistake if I have to. I have been honest and truthful about any mistake I made unknowingly and I would do whatever I need to correct it and make up for it.
Thank you for taking the time to read my letter and for everything you do for us. Every person you interview, remembers you for the rest of her/his life, because you are the person who opens the door to our new and honorable lives as US Citizens.

Am I the only one receiving a troll alert? :D
 
Not Sure but there are very different and complex procedures for processing the cases depending on the nature of under lying charges.
I guess,No one will be deported in AN flight of the same day there is a big procedure to be followed.
In some case he may be served notice and seems there are volunatary departure provisions before such such date.(for lesser offenses may be over staying and coughtcases like less serious).If promised dep. date is not met he may be detained in an Immigration jail and presented before IJ and which takes lot of time.
In some complex cases (criminal aggravated) he may be detained immediately and may be processed first for his conviction on this front and once he serves his term next stgae is IJ and will be deported I guess.
That is the reason why I was mentioningin my posts these issues may/can not be handled by ordinary inexperienced immigration lawyers except who have specialised knowldge in this area.
When immigrant is involved in a criminal law rub the immigration lawyer also has to have knowledge the' criminal consequences' on immigration AND NATIONAL Law to deal with that deportation for example.
The above is to tell about very very complex scenario.
Of course OPs case seems not that severe as above at all but still may be to try to be safe side who knows what, seems incase CIS wants to be serious.
Just an uninformed idea.
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Note: I am not a lawyer and I am just a lay man without any legal knwledge.!
Read the above STRICTLY at your own risk.

The OP did not lie.
 
But how he can draw it after leaving is different story depending on the ties between countries.

Easy. Tell the bank you want to close yoru account so that the bank
send it a check to you and you deposit it into a bank in yoru home
country.
 
You can move any amount of money between most of the free countries. You need to register the transfer if it is more than a certain threshold ($10k in the US, E10k in the EU etc) but you're still allowed to transfer any amount.
 
Have you taken your name off the registration yet, I don't see that mentioned anywhere? I would do that immediately, get proof of it, and not send the officer anything untill you have that.
The last thing you want to do is apologise or defend yourself for something you have still not corrected.
 
The OP did not lie.

Two wrong could make a right. If he had lied, he would
get citizenship for sure.

To be fair, honest people should ask USCIS also to do a voter
registration search or ask FBI to include voter's registraition
search as part of crminal name search.
 
I am not taking this about all100% countries in the world but US has special restrictions previously even to cash --traveller checks money and money transfer restrictions to a few .For many it may not be a problem and not blanket for all.

Now I will not be able to give you the link but if you can research you may find out.(Previously it was available state dept. site about money transactions limitations/restrictions)

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An example country which has many restrictions previously.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/latin_america/jan-june09/cuba_04-13.html.
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Note: I am not a lawyer and I am just a lay man without any legal knwledge.!
Read the above STRICTLY at your own risk.
 
Cuba is an exception. For most, it is not an issue.

Long term hardships for deportees are chidren's education. Short term
hardship is one has to sell houses quick before leaving the states.

Of cousrse one needs to make a living once back in his home country.
 
Fascinating. I didn't know so many people were unaware that you needed to be a citizen to vote. (See below just from the first page of a quick Google search.) I know there are exceptions for local elections etc. (e.g., the UK), but isn't the general rule the world over that one needs to be a citizenship to vote??? In any case, if I were the OP, I wouldn't rely on the glass-half-full folks on the board. It seems that in such cases the application frequently get denied and at least goes to the appeals stage.

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=187930
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286453,00.html
http://www.sptimes.com/News/031001/State/INS_drops_deportation.shtml
http://digits.newsvine.com/_news/2007/12/26/1187566-deported-to-south-africa-for-voting
http://lawandborder.com/?p=409
 
Fascinating. I didn't know so many people were unaware that you needed to be a citizen to vote.

We can make stupid mistakes in all possible aspect of life.
It is just someone masde such mistake in this particular
area.
 
Have you taken your name off the registration yet, I don't see that mentioned anywhere? I would do that immediately, get proof of it, and not send the officer anything untill you have that.
The last thing you want to do is apologise or defend yourself for something you have still not corrected.

I did and I have proof. I spoke with 3 lawyers and they told me many different things. One told me that I don't even have to respond to immigration and let them deny my application, the other one wanted to charge me $1500 for an affidavit and the last one agreed to take $400 for his affidavit. I am not sure what to do now.
 
I did and I have proof. I spoke with 3 lawyers and they told me many different things. One told me that I don't even have to respond to immigration and let them deny my application, the other one wanted to charge me $1500 for an affidavit and the last one agreed to take $400 for his affidavit. I am not sure what to do now.

Is there any difference between denial due to not submitting required documents and denial due to submissting documents? If it is not the case that former has no consequence of deportation and the later has, then I don't see what is the point of not responding
 
Is there any difference between denial due to not submitting required documents and denial due to submissting documents? If it is not the case that former has no consequence of deportation and the later has, then I don't see what is the point of not responding

All what I have read leads me to believe that my application will be denied and I will be deported (all the cases I read about ended this way) but deep in my heart I feel that because I have been truthful and that I did not do this knowingly or to benifit from it, I feel that God my be in my side and IO will have some mercy on me and my family.
I cannot sleep or eat since my interview and I thank everyone here for the information and the support you have given me.
 
All what I have read leads me to believe that my application will be denied and I will be deported (all the cases I read about ended this way) but deep in my heart I feel that because I have been truthful and that I did not do this knowingly or to benifit from it, I feel that God my be in my side and IO will have some mercy on me and my family.
I cannot sleep or eat since my interview and I thank everyone here for the information and the support you have given me.

Did you ask your lawyer does it make any difference if you voted prior to getting the GC and you disclosed it during the GC interview?
 
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