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sloner axiom :)

This one is also interesting for EU:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...true&sortcolid=2&sortasc=true&rowsperpage=250

Uzbekistan and Ukraine winning numbers seem to be cutoff at 17k during the selection process. When you look at CEAC data for the CN number below 13200 (= regional cutoff for Jan) those 2 countries represent almost 30% of all winning entries. This makes me think the computer has created a lot more holes above 17k! because entries above 17k for Uzbekistan and Ukraine were not notified. A good sign for high CN winning entries for all the other countries of the region.

Does anyone have a link to forums for Asia or Africa, that would also give the highest CN numbers for high admission countries? That would also give an indication on how much more holes should be expected for high CN series.
 
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To see the highest winning entries for the 2 countries, you need to sort the 4th column:

Uzbekistan = УзбекистаH
Ukraine = Украина

Merci Google Translate!
 
House409 said:
This one is also interesting for EU:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...true&sortcolid=2&sortasc=true&rowsperpage=250

Uzbekistan and Ukraine winning numbers seem to be cutoff at 17k during the selection process. When you look at CEAC data for the CN number below 13200 (= regional cutoff for Jan) those 2 countries represent almost 30% of all winning entries. This makes me think the computer has created a lot more holes above 17k! because entries above 17k for Uzbekistan and Ukraine were not notified. A good sign for high CN winning entries for all the other countries of the region.

Does anyone have a link to forums for Asia or Africa, that would also give the highest CN numbers for high admission countries? That would also give an indication on how much more holes should be expected for high CN series.
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Ukrainian numbers end at 18085 or a little higher. Uzbekistani numbers end at about 20K, but we are not sure yet where exactly the boundary is - because Uzbekistan has special cutoffs.
 
raevsky said:
Was he still living there at the moment when he sent initial entry? People go to study to other countries or work temporarily in other countries (and mention their country of temporary residence on DV entry), and then return back to home country.
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He replied !
He said he lived in ethiopia even when he applied and he still in there !!!!?
 
vladek15425 said:
He replied !
He said he lived in ethiopia even when he applied and he still in there !!!!?
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Agreed - never been anywhere or has anything unusual to explain the high number.

I think they must set the limits for countries before the draw is started, and then as the draw moves along there must be some point where a few extra cases are allowed back in somehow - seems very odd...
 
raevsky said:
Ukrainian numbers end at 18085 or a little higher. Uzbekistani numbers end at about 20K, but we are not sure yet where exactly the boundary is - because Uzbekistan has special cutoffs.
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Egyptian max is 18794 or so. It is too early to say the max CN for other AF special countries.
 
Ok guys let us figure out the ready issue !
If I check on the data any ready case shows the date of the initial suscription,
And the date of the update on the system, which means no sign of forms received....
Even got a wierd case !: 2014AF1001 shows that he has one derivative on top !
But at the bottom shows 2 derivatives !!?????
I still believe ready includes all the the case that sent forms or not !?
Rayme, kayend, raevsky,sloner,simon,sir percy......any opinion!?
 
Ok guys let us figure out the ready issue !
If I check on the data any ready case shows the date of the initial suscription,
And the date of the update on the system, which means no sign of forms received....
Even got a wierd case !: 2014AF1001 shows that he has one derivative on top !
But at the bottom shows 2 derivatives !!?????
I still believe ready includes all the the case that sent forms or not !?
Rayme, kayend, raevsky,sloner,simon,sir percy......any opinion!?
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Hi:)
The data comes from the embassy. Therefore, those who did not come to the interview. But sent the form.
 
Sloner said:
Hi:)
The data comes from the embassy. Therefore, those who did not come to the interview. But sent the form.
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Ok sloner ! But its KFC that schedules the intenterviews at the embassy ! So maybe they will still book the CNs
Even if they didn't send forms ?
 
vladek15425 said:
Ok guys let us figure out the ready issue !
If I check on the data any ready case shows the date of the initial suscription,
And the date of the update on the system, which means no sign of forms received....
Even got a wierd case !: 2014AF1001 shows that he has one derivative on top !
But at the bottom shows 2 derivatives !!?????
I still believe ready includes all the the case that sent forms or not !?
Rayme, kayend, raevsky,sloner,simon,sir percy......any opinion!?
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The Ready status should only show when selectees send in their forms and either waiting for interviews or miss their interviews. But I know where you are coming from, you see too many Ready cases even in the low case #. To be frank, I really don't know whether Ready status show in CEAC systems is for selectees send in their forms or not. One hand, if we calculate the total of selectees scheduled for interview so far it didn't add up to the # of selectees selected but on the other hand the Ready status is just too much for those who didn't turn up for interviews. So, I still don't know which is which.
 
kayend said:
The Ready status should only show when selectees send in their forms and either waiting for interviews or miss their interviews. But I know where you are coming from, you see too many Ready cases even in the low case #. To be frank, I really don't know whether Ready status show in CEAC systems is for selectees send in their forms or not. One hand, if we calculate the total of selectees scheduled for interview so far it didn't add up to the # of selectees selected but on the other hand the Ready status is just too much for those who didn't turn up for interviews. So, I still don't know which is which.
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Same here mate ! I find the amount of readys very high !
Now I got an idea, if we take the dv2013 data and than add up
Readys+refused+succes+aos = has to show plus minus 110k
If so than the ready that did not send forms are also included ....
I think raevsky can clear this matter .
 
raevsky said:
It was 66828 with Sloner effect, it would have been slightly more if it were not the effect.
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So 66828 are the real number including families that generated from dv 2013,
Excluding AOS and excluding sloner effect? Right
 
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So 66828 are the real number including families that generated from dv 2013,
Excluding AOS and excluding sloner effect? Right
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The report for 2011 was sent to 75,000 family members. They are the ones who sent the form. These are the official figures. I do not remember, unfortunately link.
 
Sloner said:
The report for 2011 was sent to 75,000 family members. They are the ones who sent the form. These are the official figures. I do not remember, unfortunately link.
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Thank you very much sloner, so if 75000 (officialy)showed on the data, that means there is 35k missing from 110k selected of
Dv 2013. Conclusion readys that shows on the data are the ones that indeed sent forms but didn't pitch up for the interview...
And the ones that didn't send form will appear as hole on the system...
 
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