Hi, guys!
have a question regarding N-400 application.
this is not for me, but for a close relative.
In the section for good moral character there are questions that I need help with. But before this, let me explain the situation.
My relative have 2 incidents of shoplifting. First of all, I'd like to tell you that she was wrongfully accused, and I don't think explanations would
help right now. But this is for you to understand.
The second case was in QFC store. She was detained by store security, police was not called, they called the police and filed the report. Then, she paid
fine, and received the notice in the mail to appear in court. She hired an attorney, and she had her case settled, even before she had to chance to
plead guilty or not guilty. I believe she had pretrial diversion program, she was offered to pay $75 in fine, commit no new violations, perform 24 hour
community service and not to have a contact with the store. She succesfully completed it, and the case was dismissed by the city with prejudice.
So, does she need to mention first occurance?
Also, for the second case what information need to be included along with the application?
So, for question 15 i check yes, and questions 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 21 I check no? questions 19 and 20 I am not sure though.
It was 2 years ago, and I don't know if she needs to wait 3 more years, or she can send application right now.
Since when has store security had the power to levy a fine against an individual? If the police/courts weren't involved, why was a fine paid?
I am no expert, but it would look like the first one doesn't need to be mentioned as it was all handled by store security and there was no arrest/polic report/court. About the second it would look like she needs to get court dispositions and whatever documentation about the case. There is always the risk that she might get denied for this and will have to wait until the five years. However, I don't know how big is the risk. It might help to collect documents from distinguished members of her community (any priest she might know, things like that) that can write some letters for her showing her good moral character. This might help in case the IO is inclined to deny the application.
as i said, she didn't do anything wrong, if you knew this person, you'd say the same thing. it's hard when you old, diabetic, with limited english to be in the store security office, and being treated and threatened like a criminal.a 60 year old Lady did all this.... hmmm.
but right now, i am looking more for help, rather than understanding.
as i said, she didn't do anything wrong, if you knew this person, you'd say the same thing. it's hard when you old, diabetic, with limited english to be in the store security office, and being treated and threatened like a criminal.
first case in goodwill store, she was stopped because she spent 2 hours in the store. how stupid is that? then they tried to find anything wrong, and guess what? on the receit it showed that she paid for everything! they let he go, didn't call the police (because there was no cause), and later she receives the letter that she needs to pay $200 fine. She was no in position to argue, as she was still scared, so she paid the fine, and the store closed this matter.
Second case was bizzare too. she was between 2 jobs, she had like 20-30 minutes to shop, she got to meat section, and she picked up meat there. you know how often the price sticker is always crooked, and when you get to the cashier to pay, laser reader cannot read the price, and you end up waiting for the price check? this is what she tried to avoid. So she removed the sticker from the package, then stick it back straighter, so it could be readable at the cashier, and when she paid and was leaving the store, she got stopped by store security. Where is the crime? I see more store negligence putting price lables, as it happenned numerous times. I understand that everybody has a fast trigger to judge people because they have records. but right now, i am looking more for help, rather than understanding.
there is nothing made up. to be honest, i hate when people think like you. i hate it when people don't believe you. they , store security, are legally right when she pulled the sticker off, but she only corrected it, and put it back on the same package. do you call it crime? store security video tape only when you in the store shopping, but they never video tape how they treat you in the store security office, throwing frozen meat at you, hitting your ankles, calling you racial names. it just makes me angry that someone would call me a liar. I do not make up stories. and thanks for the help!Man, use some creativity when making up stories.
You think the security guy just comes and accuses people and doesn't verify anything? For god's sake, the cops were called in the 2nd case, and you think they have no way of verifying with the store?
there is nothing made up. to be honest, i hate when people think like you. i hate it when people don't believe you. they , store security, are legally right when she pulled the sticker off, but she only corrected it, and put it back on the same package. do you call it crime? store security video tape only when you in the store shopping, but they never video tape how they treat you in the store security office, throwing frozen meat at you, hitting your ankles, calling you racial names. it just makes me angry that someone would call me a liar. I do not make up stories. and thanks for the help!
Is this what they did??? You should DEFINITELY hire a lawyer, possibly the ACLU or some place like that. If this is all true, I think your friend may have a case against the shops, if the incidents didn't take place too long ago. As for the N-400 questions, I don't know...
A friend of mine had this happen to him. He was caught by a security camera switching price stickers on a CD, so the security detained him, took down his info, then let him go without calling the police. A couple of weeks later, he got a $75 fine in the mail, directly from the store. I question the legality of this, but apparently it happens.