Khodalmd: I fully understand what you say. You were always very civilized, and I don't believe you were saying anything about the integrity of their members. Nor did I.
So don't take the loser thing seriously. Winners have always received that label. You and nycgal were amongst those making serious contributions, and you know what anyone who calls you a loser is a loser himself/herself.
Am I a loser? I am not very disturbed by someone calling me a loser because I know I am not.
qp, I understand your anger, and know that you were one of the most active and sincere members on iv.
I remember being disturbed by the attitude there, core and non-core, all the trashing and bashing and banning. If nothing else, it bothered me that I was putting in cash and efforts to a bunch of not-so-smart kids.
But the way that aman kapoor and other core members - logiclife - behaved after I asked for my money back after I was banned, bordered on thuggish behavior.
I am detailing what happened because I see people here who still foolishly and blindly continue to believe in this "non-profit" organization.
As you said, many of us including me had contributed cash and put in work, enrolling members, distributing flyers, writing to media, calling senators, etc.
After I was banned for stating my disagreement with their strategy, and in 100% polite language, I asked them to refund my money which had been contributed in good faith.
aman kapoor promised to refund it (still have that email where he said this, so it can be proved). He asked me for my mailing address so he could mail the check there. Luckily I had the presence of mind to forward a friend's address.
Later, when I never recd the check, I asked him and all the other core members where my money was. No response, on the contrary, later, one core member - logiclife - even indirectly threatened me saying they had all my contact info and could find me anywhere.
This was not only thuggish behavior, but ridiculous and immature, because clearly if he tried anything at all I could slap him with a lawsuit for harrassment so fast he wouldn't know what hit him.
Of course, all the abusive language and insults continued: they are a part of their signature, iv should stand for insulting voice
I thought my case was isolated, but clearly this behavior is across the board, and to many other ex-members.
For me, I have written off my payment to them as a bad, very bad, debt.
Don't know what or if they are going to achieve on the immigration front, but their behavior has encouraged many free riders, and instead of marketing themselves, they have made enemies and reduced their own membership with their attitude.
I actually hope they do achieve something, so I can say at least my money was not spent only on their hotel bills.
But beyond that, like someone else said, why are we talking about them?
