For Dv 2012 May 1st selectees!!

[Veggie3]

Hi to you all,

The appeal to reinstate our selection is still on. Ira Kurzban, a Miami-based attorney, is one of the leading immigration lawyers in the country, and he's willing to represent our case. Contributions go to him directly

Please see the details and how to contribute: http://diversityvisa2012.blogspot.com/

Do we we have chance? Probably just a very small chance. Is it worth $100? Absolutely.

Again, this is NOT a scam - you'll be paying directly to one of leading immigration law firms in the country.

 

[verdite]

Its very unfortunate what happened to you guys but in all honesty your chances of suceeding are slim. Try your chances for this years DV2013 which is still running. Lawyers/Solicitors will keep accepting money even if they know the chances are slim.

 

[Veggie3]

The chances are slim indeed, but...

The thing is that after this appeal will be decided in court it will really be over. So this is basically the last chance, slim as it may be. This last chance with one of America's best immigration lawyers (who already won cases against the U.S. government) is worth my $100. I hope that others will help by donating even smaller amounts.

We were wronged last May by an incompetent and uncaring Bureaucracy. None of the s%#& who did it to us was even disciplined!

I especially hope that people who are currently in the U.S. (like me) will contribute - after living so long in the country just to see the possibility of a Green Card given and 13 days later taken was maddening! Let's give it one more try.

 

[raevsky]

The thing is that after this appeal will be decided in court it will really be over.

Most likely that is false if 22316 win (most likely DOS will try to appeal to Supreme Court). Most likely true if DOS wins.

So this is basically the last chance, slim as it may be.

Yes, that is true.

 

[Veggie3]

When we'll get to that bridge

Let's hope the court will rule in our favor, then worry about whether DOS will appeal to the Supreme Court or not

In any case, if just 800 people (out of 22,000) will donate $100 each we should be OK.

PLEASE CONTRIBUTE ASAP!!

 

[raevsky]

Let's hope the court will rule in our favor

The thing is that this type of decision could affect the case of other 100,000 winners (July winners). You need to remember that. I do not know how exactly Kurzban is going to appeal that, but it seems to me full success of your case means full disqualification of July winners, and reinstating 100,000 May winners instead of them.

 

[Veggie3]

It's not necessarily about the whole 100,000

If Kurzban will argue a broken contract (the form that each selectee received) between the U.S. government and the 22,000 then it would include only those 22000.

Then again, it's way too early to even consider those options...

 

[raevsky]

Kurzban has filed a bunch of documents, questioning the correctness of lower court's decision and correctness of DOS cancellation of DV lottery. No word "random" has been mentioned. No number of 22,000 has been mentioned.

 

[Veggie3]

Kurzban mentions the 22000 yet without the number

Here it goes:

"This appeal challenges Defendants' decision to annul the results of the 2012 diversity visa lottery and to redo that lottery to the detriment of Plaintiffs, a class of individuals who received notification after the first lottery that they were selected for diversity visas" (my emphasis). Hence, only those who were notified by DOS belong to that group.

Let's hope we'll get our selection reinstated!!

 

[ferdiii]

That's the hope

Here it goes:

"This appeal challenges Defendants' decision to annul the results of the 2012 diversity visa lottery and to redo that lottery to the detriment of Plaintiffs, a class of individuals who received notification after the first lottery that they were selected for diversity visas" (my emphasis). Hence, only those who were notified by DOS belong to that group.

Let's hope we'll get our selection reinstated!!

That'll be justice restored!And wonderful!

 

[raevsky]

cTM22G

a class of individuals who received notification after the first lottery that they were selected for diversity visas

Yes, that is the last document filed. Filed after my last post.

 

[Jacksbugs]

I made my contribution to the lawyer and all those selected who want to fight the injustice of being notified then nullified should do the same.
Even if there's just a slim chance to win this appeal, I'm willing to take that chance !! Why ? Because the probability to be reinstated will always be greater than the one to be picked up again among 19 million persons...
Think of it twice before giving up your hopes...I'd rather live the rest of my life with regrets than remorse...So what about you?

 

[jayo2k]

I have a question to former May 1st 2011... Did any of you got your visa or entry to the us as a tourist denied?
Because I read on facebook that one person in canada (may fisrt winner) got his visa denied & the reason the agent told him was that because he participated on an online petition...
Me i didn't sign that petition & went to the USA with no problem at all... No question asked, he just took my passeport, stampted it & gave me back...

 

[Jacksbugs]

Did you ask for a non-immigrant visa to your US Embassy to enter the country or were you on a visa waiver participating country (3 months max stay)? It's quite different from J/M visas...
What I understood on that Facebook page is that he was asking for an non-immigrant type visa and got denied.

 

[Styles]

It would be great if we won this case, but really a bunch of foreigners winning this case against the U.S government (please forgive my pessimism"once beaten twice shy")now that would be something. Wouldnt it?.

 

[jayo2k]

Did you ask for a non-immigrant visa to your US Embassy to enter the country or were you on a visa waiver participating country (3 months max stay)? It's quite different from J/M visas...
What I understood on that Facebook page is that he was asking for an non-immigrant type visa and got denied.

visa weaver, but i'm geting a work permit soon

 

[2012j1]

What kind of work permit? Like an H1B/L-type visa? Those allow dual intent, so you should be fine. It's the student type visas that could be a problem. We're applying for a J-1 extension this month, and were one of the winners in May. We'll see how it goes.

 

[Veggie3]

I think the problem is for those who sent forms to KCC

My spouse and I returned to the U.S. after a vacation abroad without a problem (we're on J-1/J-2 visas). But then again, we haven't sent any forms to the KCC.

I think the person who got his visa denied in Canada did send out forms.

 

[Znayko]

general information

I want that all will know it. Don't lost the hope. The case is still active and this is the last information from the lawyer:

We are working
simultaneously in the district court to get the judge to reconsider her decision in light of the Office of Inspector General’s report and at the same time trying to get the report in front of the court of appeals. Please let everyone know about our efforts and please encourage people to donate, even if they are small donations, because we have spent far more time and money , than people have contributed. Thank you. Ira Kurzban

Kurzban Kurzban Weinger Tetzeli & Pratt P.A.
Ira Kurzban

 

[Samusoni]

I want that all will know it. Don't lost the hope. The case is still active and this is the last information from the lawyer:

We are working
simultaneously in the district court to get the judge to reconsider her decision in light of the Office of Inspector General’s report and at the same time trying to get the report in front of the court of appeals. Please let everyone know about our efforts and please encourage people to donate, even if they are small donations, because we have spent far more time and money , than people have contributed. Thank you. Ira Kurzban

Kurzban Kurzban Weinger Tetzeli & Pratt P.A.
Ira Kurzban

For me, hope is gone. These messages from the lawyer are not very convincing that they are working on anything. What could the options be? I doubt that the judge can nullify the new winners, many of whom have already collected their visa and moved on. I doubt that the judge could overide the congressional mandate of issuing more than the mandated 50k visas. So, even if the judge agrees to hear the case, where are the extra visa going to come from.

An injustice was done here; no doubt about that. However, as it stands, I see no light at the end of this tunnel at all.