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Sending two different passports on the basis of being a dual national makes no sense to me, considering KCC only needs to verify the passport one used in filling out the initial eDV entry form as part of the document verification process. I do not think KCC spends enough time going over the DS260 form to see how many nationality is listed on it, which is what I believe has resulted in the confusions described by the person who previously posted about this.

It is possible I’ve also told someone in the past to send both passports (reflecting dual nationality as listed on the DS260 form), however the more I think about this the more I’m convinced that is not necessary. Maybe there’s some other reason for this recommendation Simon is aware of which I haven’t come across. So if that is what Simon told you to do, I guess this is one of those rare occasions in which we disagree on what to do (until I’m convinced otherwise).
Based on the the fact that embassies have limited capacity, one’s probability of being transferred to another embassy might improve by submitting your passports to KCC, as this may help them identify what embassies you are able to be processed. Just an opinion.
Also, I am a dual citizen and am considering requesting KCC to change my current interview location to one of the countries I am able to be processed.
 
Based on the the fact that embassies have limited capacity, one’s probability of being transferred to another embassy might improve by submitting your passports to KCC, as this may help them identify what embassies you are able to be processed. Just an opinion.
Also, I am a dual citizen and am considering requesting KCC to change my current interview location to one of the countries I am able to be processed.
I don’t do probability or number crunching, so I’m not going to get into that, I go by what I’ve been able to observe over the years. KCC will not automatically assume one is able to interview in a non-country of current residence simply because they hold the passport of that country, and automatically transfer the case there. When requesting an embassy change, one is required to demonstrate their tie to the country one is requesting to be transferred to, at that point one can send the passport if they so wish in addition to demonstrating they reside in that country. KCC cannot assume a person wants to be interviewed in a certain country simply because they’re a citizen of that country, citizenship is not taken into consideration when scheduling the interview.
 
Based on the the fact that embassies have limited capacity, one’s probability of being transferred to another embassy might improve by submitting your passports to KCC, as this may help them identify what embassies you are able to be processed. Just an opinion.
Also, I am a dual citizen and am considering requesting KCC to change my current interview location to one of the countries I am able to be processed.
KCC is not going to do that proactively. You need to ask them if you want to change embassies. The default for embassy choice is your current address.

Back to the earlier topic, I am inclined to agree with mom that you send the passport you signed up with to KCC, but bring all valid passports you may have to the interview.
 
Your case is too high, so they have probably not even looked at your documents.

You need a win in the DV2021 lawsuits that calls for a broad preservation of visas.
After 2 weeks, now my embassy has set up more and more interviews up to AS25000. (mine is AS27***). Is this has possibility for my case?
Or is it some simple, early submission, & lucky cases with high case number was set, but there's hundreds of lower # than AS25000 waiting at my embassy? I'm bit worried because Judge Mehta's order hasn't announced/or looks like to be announced any time soon...
 
Because he is busy...? He is not just working on DV cases. I am assuming that he will have to at least say something by September 30. Regarding Goh, I don't see any difference between Goh and Goodluck even though the lawyers said for months that they would probably get a quick decision. Well, nope. The judge will probably deliver his judgment on the very same day for both. Plus, two 2021 lawsuits didn't go through so I am not very positive regarding the outcome of Goh + Goodluck but we shall see... In any case, I think it's pretty clear that the government won't ever issue the 55K visas. If we even get 20K to ever be issued, we would be extremely lucky. In short: I don't think that I'll ever get my visa (I lost hope back in May) but if you are part of a consulate that is delivering visas, you might stand a chance.
 
I know he is busy.. never thought he's watching Friends online. :D

I still think there's a difference between Goh and Goodluck. Maybe they'll have the final decision on the same day, but I don't think his rule with be the same... Sure, we won't get 55k visas. I think just the PI was dismissed for the mentioned 2 lawsuits, Goh never asked for the PI.

I personally was waiting for him to heat up the situation at KCC, so they could process a few thousand cases before the end of the fiscal year. Disappointed.
 
Hi everyone, just stating the obvious that this is my opinion and it's full of assumptions and speculations.
I agree with Puda, JM is obviously busy with several other cases but, in my opinion, he will release something related to DV2021 before Sep 30. And even though the lawyers mentioned that the cases are not consolidated they will probably be all covered in one order, if he wanted to give Goh plaintiffs some special treatment because the case was filed earlier he would have done so in the beginning of August.
I will not be surprised if ,following his opinion in Gomez, JM orders some reservation of visas for some later date but without giving named plaintiffs priority, he could also use some math formula as he used for DV2020 and reserve some amount of visas but that would not come close to the 55K in total considering visas would be lost anyway due to covid.
Let's see what will happen. In my case my embassy is in one of the countries not allowed in the DV lottery so very few people process here and they are processing DVs but I am stuck at KCC because they never processed my documents.
 
Because he is busy...? He is not just working on DV cases. I am assuming that he will have to at least say something by September 30. Regarding Goh, I don't see any difference between Goh and Goodluck even though the lawyers said for months that they would probably get a quick decision. Well, nope. The judge will probably deliver his judgment on the very same day for both. Plus, two 2021 lawsuits didn't go through so I am not very positive regarding the outcome of Goh + Goodluck but we shall see... In any case, I think it's pretty clear that the government won't ever issue the 55K visas. If we even get 20K to ever be issued, we would be extremely lucky. In short: I don't think that I'll ever get my visa (I lost hope back in May) but if you are part of a consulate that is delivering visas, you might stand a chance.
I agree with you. Sad but true.
Hi everyone, just stating the obvious that this is my opinion and it's full of assumptions and speculations.
I agree with Puda, JM is obviously busy with several other cases but, in my opinion, he will release something related to DV2021 before Sep 30. And even though the lawyers mentioned that the cases are not consolidated they will probably be all covered in one order, if he wanted to give Goh plaintiffs some special treatment because the case was filed earlier he would have done so in the beginning of August.
I will not be surprised if ,following his opinion in Gomez, JM orders some reservation of visas for some later date but without giving named plaintiffs priority, he could also use some math formula as he used for DV2020 and reserve some amount of visas but that would not come close to the 55K in total considering visas would be lost anyway due to covid.
Let's see what will happen. In my case my embassy is in one of the countries not allowed in the DV lottery so very few people process here and they are processing DVs but I am stuck at KCC because they never processed my documents.
Yeah, he doesn’t seem inclined to give named plaintiffs any special treatment.
 
I still don’t understand why is J. Mehta trying to discourage plaintiffs from participating in lawsuits by not giving them any advantage of being named plaintiffs.
By contrast, and this is of course just my opinion, I never understood why named plaintiffs did get an advantage. Some years back I remember reading a Q&A with someone from DoS or USCIS, I don’t remember which, and the question was asked why they did not allow people to pay extra and move to the front of the line for immigrant visas, in a similar vein to premium processing for work visas. The response was that all immigrants should be treated on an equal basis and there should be no advantage given to some just because they can afford to pay extra. Well, this is pretty much what happened when named plaintiffs got preference before - effectively they got an advantage because they could pay (even if the payment did not go to uscis/Dos), and that surprised me given what I had heard before. I don’t believe either Mehta or DoS addressed this though. Anyway, again this is just my opinion and also why I personally am more in favor of class action, I understand some here will disagree.
 
By contrast, and this is of course just my opinion, I never understood why named plaintiffs did get an advantage. Some years back I remember reading a Q&A with someone from DoS or USCIS, I don’t remember which, and the question was asked why they did not allow people to pay extra and move to the front of the line for immigrant visas, in a similar vein to premium processing for work visas. The response was that all immigrants should be treated on an equal basis and there should be no advantage given to some just because they can afford to pay extra. Well, this is pretty much what happened when named plaintiffs got preference before - effectively they got an advantage because they could pay (even if the payment did not go to uscis/Dos), and that surprised me given what I had heard before. I don’t believe either Mehta or DoS addressed this though. Anyway, again this is just my opinion and also why I personally am more in favor of class action, I understand some here will disagree.
Most DV2021 suffer from this tragedy.
But it is necessary for someone to pay and fight
Here, plaintiffs spend their money to hire lawyers to fight for their fights
If plaintiffs cannot be benefitted anymore or are treated equally as others, then no one wants to pay
 
yes, it is important to note that some people pay money for it, but there are people who cannot afford it, yes, maybe for some of them it is not so important and that's why they didn’t pay anything, but in any case it doesn’t mean that plaintiffs should become more important. I think both should be treated the same. if the judge's decision will be positive for the winners of the dv, the plaintiffs still benefit from this. Their funds will not be lost anyway
 
Most DV2021 suffer from this tragedy.
But it is necessary for someone to pay and fight
Here, plaintiffs spend their money to hire lawyers to fight for their fights
If plaintiffs cannot be benefitted anymore or are treated equally as others, then no one wants to pay
Yes, I said I knew some of you would disagree.
I would also note that some organizations like AILA have brought class action suits in the past without requiring plaintiffs to pay to get the cases moving. And some lawyers who get paid for most of the work will do some cases pro bono or for the public interest. But yes, most lawyers don’t work pro bono or for the public good or just on principles so they need someone to pay to take the case. And of course most would be immigrants won’t effectively crowdfund a case if they don’t think they’ll get preferential treatment out of it.
I maintain that the principle that money shouldn’t buy favor in immigration is correct (otherwise they might as well just rank immigrants by assets or income and most of you would lose out).
 
Yes, I said I knew some of you would disagree.
I would also note that some organizations like AILA have brought class action suits in the past without requiring plaintiffs to pay to get the cases moving. And some lawyers who get paid for most of the work will do some cases pro bono or for the public interest. But yes, most lawyers don’t work pro bono or for the public good or just on principles so they need someone to pay to take the case. And of course most would be immigrants won’t effectively crowdfund a case if they don’t think they’ll get preferential treatment out of it.
I maintain that the principle that money shouldn’t buy favor in immigration is correct (otherwise they might as well just rank immigrants by assets or income and most of you would lose out).
I am realistic here only because I am one of the plaintiffs. There is no true or false of this question.
During the hearing the gov suggests that postponing DV2020 and DV2021 to fiscal year 2023.
It is illegal, but I can accept it honestly.
 
There is nothing fair in this DV. Very low case numbers who have been DQ for over year aren't getting interviews in fully working consulates like Montreal while extremely high number cases are getting interview in other countries ( probably skipping also lower case numbers in these countries) . we pay the price mentally and financially because we are the most passionate about moving to US , pointing Judge to the chaos created by DOS but Judge will probably leave to DOS to decide who gets interview . And Guess what ? DOS will probably process the minimum number possible of plaintiffs to discourage future immigrant from going to court ( I have seen similar comment on EB AOS case yesterday in live video by lawyers so looks like government position of DOS & USCIS)
I would understand if Judge says reserve visas and work by case number regardless of being Plaintiff or not , restoring order . Leaving it completely to DOS is like giving them a second bullet to fire in the face of each immigrant.

And speaking about Money , DOS jumped quickly to process Student visas worldwide , because they will pay money ....

It is ok to disagree , but I am still looking for some explanation , why not processing DV visa by Montreal consulate was bad under President trump but ok under President Biden ?
 
It is ok to disagree , but I am still looking for some explanation , why not processing DV visa by Montreal consulate was bad under President trump but ok under President Biden ?
? there was a total ban on DV (and many other visas) under trump (until the court case got them to issue in sept). Different situation. The current situation is however a lot to do with the backlog caused by the Trump ban.

and actually the urgency for student visas is not money. It’s deadlines for term start. The same principle totally should have been applied to DV sunset clause and I’m not sure why no one has been arguing that one.
 
? there was a total ban on DV (and many other visas) under trump (until the court case got them to issue in sept). Different situation. The current situation is however a lot to do with the backlog caused by the Trump ban.

and actually the urgency for student visas is not money. It’s deadlines for term start. The same principle totally should have been applied to DV sunset clause and I’m not sure why no one has been arguing that one.
I disagree , DOS can still process DV if they wanted , Sep 2020 was a good example what was the actual capacity. They chose to hide behind excuses , with no clear plan to reduce backlog. You mentioned it before as an example for Montreal back in March/April , 10 Cases per month isn't a pressure for that consulate, Yet they chose to not process even a single case .

Yes we understand they wanted to catch deadline for term start for students, but why they cared so much about that deadline vs DV deadline ? because students bring Money , I heard Lawyer Greg say it , I remember Brit Simon mentioned it .

Anyway Sep 30 isn't that far now , we wait and see the final output
 
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