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Law Offices of Rajiv S. Khanna, P.C.
DV 2021 ALL SELECTEES
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Hi,
I am a DV2021 winner (EU27XXX) I have a question for which I couldn't find any clear answer in the DV official instructions:
So I won the lottery being listed as a single. I am in a relationship with my girlfriend for 6 years but we are not married yet so i entered as single.
Now that I won we are thinking of getting married quickly so that we both get the green card together and move to the US together.
I already submitted my DS 260 in late June but I haven't been asked for the documents yet so, correct me if i am wrong, but if we get married let's say before the end of 2020, we would be on time to add her to the process as a derivative right?
Another thing to know is that my girlfriend's mother is a US citizen (not born there but she got the citizenship after being married to an American years ago) so she potentially has another way to get a green card through family reunion with her mother but from what i read this can take from 3 to 7 years so this would mean for us to live a very complicated life for at least 3 years since she couldn't stay more than a few months a year in the US with an ESTA.
Now the thing is, my case is I think very good on all points (education, current job, money in the bank, etc...) so there is a high chance that i get the GC if I get interviewed despite covid, etc...
On the other hand my future wife :
- doesn't have the high school diploma needed
- doesn't have two years of work experience within the past five years in an occupation that requires at least two years of training or experience to perform
So basically she is not eligible to apply for the DV if she was applying for herself.
My question is, does the Derivative of a winner (the wife here) needs those requirements (diploma or work experience) to be eligible as a derivative?
We don't know what to do know as we are afraid this would disqualify both of us so we are thinking right now that it would be safer that I get the GC alone and she then gets it through her mother but this would take a few years unfortunately and be very complicated obviously.
If someone knows a clear answer about the derivatives I would highly appreciate it.
Thank you very much to everyone answering questions on this forum (and Simon for the videos) it has been a great help from me since i received the news that i was selected
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I am a DV2021 winner (EU27XXX) I have a question for which I couldn't find any clear answer in the DV official instructions:
So I won the lottery being listed as a single. I am in a relationship with my girlfriend for 6 years but we are not married yet so i entered as single.
Now that I won we are thinking of getting married quickly so that we both get the green card together and move to the US together.
I already submitted my DS 260 in late June but I haven't been asked for the documents yet so, correct me if i am wrong, but if we get married let's say before the end of 2020, we would be on time to add her to the process as a derivative right?
Another thing to know is that my girlfriend's mother is a US citizen (not born there but she got the citizenship after being married to an American years ago) so she potentially has another way to get a green card through family reunion with her mother but from what i read this can take from 3 to 7 years so this would mean for us to live a very complicated life for at least 3 years since she couldn't stay more than a few months a year in the US with an ESTA.
Now the thing is, my case is I think very good on all points (education, current job, money in the bank, etc...) so there is a high chance that i get the GC if I get interviewed despite covid, etc...
On the other hand my future wife :
- doesn't have the high school diploma needed
- doesn't have two years of work experience within the past five years in an occupation that requires at least two years of training or experience to perform
So basically she is not eligible to apply for the DV if she was applying for herself.
My question is, does the Derivative of a winner (the wife here) needs those requirements (diploma or work experience) to be eligible as a derivative?
We don't know what to do know as we are afraid this would disqualify both of us so we are thinking right now that it would be safer that I get the GC alone and she then gets it through her mother but this would take a few years unfortunately and be very complicated obviously.
If someone knows a clear answer about the derivatives I would highly appreciate it.
Thank you very much to everyone answering questions on this forum (and Simon for the videos) it has been a great help from me since i received the news that i was selected
!
SusieQQQ
Well-Known Member
Only the winner needs to meet the requirements (unless you are cross charging for eligibility which you are not).Hi,
I am a DV2021 winner (EU27XXX) I have a question for which I couldn't find any clear answer in the DV official instructions:
So I won the lottery being listed as a single. I am in a relationship with my girlfriend for 6 years but we are not married yet so i entered as single.
Now that I won we are thinking of getting married quickly so that we both get the green card together and move to the US together.
I already submitted my DS 260 in late June but I haven't been asked for the documents yet so, correct me if i am wrong, but if we get married let's say before the end of 2020, we would be on time to add her to the process as a derivative right?
Another thing to know is that my girlfriend's mother is a US citizen (not born there but she got the citizenship after being married to an American years ago) so she potentially has another way to get a green card through family reunion with her mother but from what i read this can take from 3 to 7 years so this would mean for us to live a very complicated life for at least 3 years since she couldn't stay more than a few months a year in the US with an ESTA.
Now the thing is, my case is I think very good on all points (education, current job, money in the bank, etc...) so there is a high chance that i get the GC if I get interviewed despite covid, etc...
On the other hand my future wife :
- doesn't have the high school diploma needed
- doesn't have two years of work experience within the past five years in an occupation that requires at least two years of training or experience to perform
So basically she is not eligible to apply for the DV if she was applying for herself.
My question is, does the Derivative of a winner (the wife here) needs those requirements (diploma or work experience) to be eligible as a derivative?
We don't know what to do know as we are afraid this would disqualify both of us so we are thinking right now that it would be safer that I get the GC alone and she then gets it through her mother but this would take a few years unfortunately and be very complicated obviously.
If someone knows a clear answer about the derivatives I would highly appreciate it.
Thank you very much to everyone answering questions on this forum (and Simon for the videos) it has been a great help from me since i received the news that i was selected
Hi Susie
Thanks for your quick reply!
Is that for certain because I couldn't find this written anywhere in the instructions?
So from what i read if we get married, then i would ask KCC to unlock my file and then we would need to fill another DS-260 for her. Is the DS-260 derivative identical to the main applicant DS-260? That would mean she would potentially leave blank the fields of work in the past five years and the high school diploma requirements and you are sure that would be no problem whatsoever for the consulate at the interview?
Just want to be sure because this is such an important decision with big consequences for us if we make the bad choice.
So in our case you would definitely advise us to get married, you think this is reasonable to get married before the end of 2020 without endangering the whole process at all?
Thanks!
SusieQQQ
Well-Known Member
You didn’t find it in the instructions *because* it isn’t a requirement (other than for cross-charging, where they do clearly state it). Think about it logically, if derivatives had to meet all the requirements no one could take minor children.
You clearly have a bona fide relationship, it seems logical to get married. Bring evidence of your long term relationship to the interview.
Ok thank you so much for taking the time to reply!
Let's get married then
and hope for a quick covid vaccine Quick question
I have unlocked my DS260 (mine and my wife's application to correct some spellings)
Now my friend who lives in the states (used his address) has moved to new address
Can i request KCC to unlock my children's DS260 ?
Or since there are already opened applications they can't do it ?
Or should i submit our application then after few days i ask them to unlock the children's DS260?
What is the best scenario to use?
Thank you
I have unlocked my DS260 (mine and my wife's application to correct some spellings)
Now my friend who lives in the states (used his address) has moved to new address
Can i request KCC to unlock my children's DS260 ?
Or since there are already opened applications they can't do it ?
Or should i submit our application then after few days i ask them to unlock the children's DS260?
What is the best scenario to use?
Thank you
Hello, I would like to ask you a few questions on behalf of my uncle. (FYI, I successfully went through the AOS process myself in 2017 thanks to this forum).
My uncle won the 2021 DV lottery back in Africa and is proceeding with CP. He is the principal and wife/kids are the derivatives.
Background: His wife's birth certificate only has a year of birth. There is no date or month because her parents did not declare her on time and it is customary to list an approximate year of birth in those cases in my country.
He used to be a diplomat working for his embassy in the US and the diplomatic passport that the wife had at the time listed 12/31/XXXX as her dob. So, she got a U.S social, working permit and A-number based on that DOB.
Then, their mission ended and they returned back home. Since the diplomatic passport expired, she applied for a regular passport and that service listed 1/1/XXXX as her DOB (again, she only has a year of birth and the diplomatic passport services and the regular passport services used different dates of births on the passport).
So fast forward, my uncle entered the 2021 DV lottery with the DOB 1/1/XXXX since that's the date that was on the new regular passport for his wife.
My uncle is filing for the DS-260 and doesn't know honestly what to do.
1.) Will it be a problem if his wife gets her regular passport reissued by the authorities with the dob 12/31/XXXX and he uses that dob on DS260 form since that's the dob that she had been using previously in the US?
2.) Or should he maintain 1/1/XXXX on the DS-260 to match the DV entry?
3.) Other suggestions?
Thank you very much for your time.
My uncle won the 2021 DV lottery back in Africa and is proceeding with CP. He is the principal and wife/kids are the derivatives.
Background: His wife's birth certificate only has a year of birth. There is no date or month because her parents did not declare her on time and it is customary to list an approximate year of birth in those cases in my country.
He used to be a diplomat working for his embassy in the US and the diplomatic passport that the wife had at the time listed 12/31/XXXX as her dob. So, she got a U.S social, working permit and A-number based on that DOB.
Then, their mission ended and they returned back home. Since the diplomatic passport expired, she applied for a regular passport and that service listed 1/1/XXXX as her DOB (again, she only has a year of birth and the diplomatic passport services and the regular passport services used different dates of births on the passport).
So fast forward, my uncle entered the 2021 DV lottery with the DOB 1/1/XXXX since that's the date that was on the new regular passport for his wife.
My uncle is filing for the DS-260 and doesn't know honestly what to do.
1.) Will it be a problem if his wife gets her regular passport reissued by the authorities with the dob 12/31/XXXX and he uses that dob on DS260 form since that's the dob that she had been using previously in the US?
2.) Or should he maintain 1/1/XXXX on the DS-260 to match the DV entry?
3.) Other suggestions?
Thank you very much for your time.
Hello Mom,
I received the following email from KCC. I am already current. What should I do next to get a visa interview? Thank you very much in advance.
Congratulations! Our records indicate that your case is ready to be scheduled for an interview when your case number becomes current and appointments are available. Interviews are scheduled numerically based on region and which case numbers have already been processed.
All DV 2021 interviews must be concluded by September 30, 2021. Please refer to the visa bulletin at travel.state.gov to locate the current numbers being processed. This bulletin is updated after the 15th day of each month. Once an interview date has been scheduled, you will receive notification via the email address listed on your DS-260 to check dvlottery.state.gov for details.
If your case becomes current and you have not received notification to check dvlottery.state.gov, you may contact KCCDV@state.gov to confirm all of your documents have been received, and you are ready to be scheduled for an interview. This notice does not necessarily confirm that all your documents have been received or are acceptable.
This notice is not a guarantee of receiving a visa or a visa interview. KCC is a document processing facility and does not make adjudicatory decisions.
I received the following email from KCC. I am already current. What should I do next to get a visa interview? Thank you very much in advance.
Congratulations! Our records indicate that your case is ready to be scheduled for an interview when your case number becomes current and appointments are available. Interviews are scheduled numerically based on region and which case numbers have already been processed.
All DV 2021 interviews must be concluded by September 30, 2021. Please refer to the visa bulletin at travel.state.gov to locate the current numbers being processed. This bulletin is updated after the 15th day of each month. Once an interview date has been scheduled, you will receive notification via the email address listed on your DS-260 to check dvlottery.state.gov for details.
If your case becomes current and you have not received notification to check dvlottery.state.gov, you may contact KCCDV@state.gov to confirm all of your documents have been received, and you are ready to be scheduled for an interview. This notice does not necessarily confirm that all your documents have been received or are acceptable.
This notice is not a guarantee of receiving a visa or a visa interview. KCC is a document processing facility and does not make adjudicatory decisions.
SusieQQQ
Well-Known Member
Are you doing consular processing? They will not schedule consular interviews while the ban on issuance for DV2021 is in place. It is currently uncertain at what point they will start sending interview notices. You can contact KCC to double check documents received and see if they can give you any hint of when they might start scheduling interviews, but other than that you can’t do anything other than wait at this point unfortunately.
Sm1smom
Super Moderator
1. To ensure consistency with the existing US immigration records, my recommendation is to get a new passport in alignment with what was on the diplomatic passport she used in the US.
2. Because she’s a derivative, and not the main selectee, not matching the date on the eDV entry shouldn’t be a problem during processing. If the issue comes up during their interview, they should explain the situation like you did here.
Sm1smom
Super Moderator
Contact KCC to find out all your documents have been received like the email says, following which you patiently wait to be scheduled for an interview.
Thank you mom for your response!
Anyone?!
bookofsecrets
New Member
Hello Mom! Asia winner here and I am thamkful for your service to us. Just wanted to ask if anyone has gotten a receipt from the DOS yet. I am a winner located in the states with an F1 visa and have been waiting for the receipt for over a month. I called the DOS twice but their visa department is out of service. Do you know a phone number that I can call to confirm if they have received it my request?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Visa Bulletin For November 2020
https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...tin/2021/visa-bulletin-for-november-2020.html
https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...tin/2021/visa-bulletin-for-november-2020.html
Zemenay mareye
New Member
Hello Folks
I am the winner of Dv2021 from Ethiopia. I have some questions related to the passport case. due to COVID 19 ministry of immigration (ethiopian) stop issuing and renewal passport service for months and at that time i cant update my wife passport and issuing new passport for the newborn child,than after some days later ministry of immigration (ethiopian) permits issuing and updating passports (for some period of time) only for dv winners ,medical, student, government officials, … in this situation we use this opportunity to update our passport (my and my wife)and also issuing new passport for our new born child , my wife passport expired on 24 may 2020 and also my passport expires on 23 august 2021.
When we fill DS 260 on august 12, 2020, i use the updated passport number to fill the form which varies with the primary DV entry (original dv entry) passport number. already we have the original
passport of both the new and old on our hand.
So, my question is …..
I am the winner of Dv2021 from Ethiopia. I have some questions related to the passport case. due to COVID 19 ministry of immigration (ethiopian) stop issuing and renewal passport service for months and at that time i cant update my wife passport and issuing new passport for the newborn child,than after some days later ministry of immigration (ethiopian) permits issuing and updating passports (for some period of time) only for dv winners ,medical, student, government officials, … in this situation we use this opportunity to update our passport (my and my wife)and also issuing new passport for our new born child , my wife passport expired on 24 may 2020 and also my passport expires on 23 august 2021.
When we fill DS 260 on august 12, 2020, i use the updated passport number to fill the form which varies with the primary DV entry (original dv entry) passport number. already we have the original
passport of both the new and old on our hand.
So, my question is …..
- Is there any problem filling DS260 by using the updated passport (new passport number) ?
- Or Shall I ask KCC to Unlock DS260 to adjust passport number (to refill the old passport) ?
Sm1smom
Super Moderator
You can contact KCC and request they unlock your kids DS260 forms too.
Sm1smom
Super Moderator
Are you processing AOS and asking about the DV Administrative Processing Fee payment receipt? If yes, please post your questions on the DV 2021 AOS Only thread. Asking AOS related questions on the general DV thread creates unnecessary confusion.
Sm1smom
Super Moderator
Fill out the DS260 forms with the new passport numbers. Keep the old passports at hand and be ready to present them if required during your interview.