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DV 2021 ALL SELECTEES

Kafui said:
if you don't want to submit ds260, then why take part in the lottery in the first place. Because even without ds260 they can still find your details in their system. US embassy can still find your name in their selectee system.
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It is highly unlikely to be selected and a lot of the people that apply end up doing other things with their lives that takes them to the US through non immigrant routes (like I said above: studying, working, internship, etc) and in those cases they do not have immigrant intent because they plan to return to their country once they are done with it.
Simply applying does not show immigrant intent because you can change your mind, not get selected, get selected and decide not to proceed with it...
 
DV21M said:
It is highly unlikely to be selected and a lot of the people that apply end up doing other things with their lives that takes them to the US through non immigrant routes (like I said above: studying, working, internship, etc) and in those cases they do not have immigrant intent because they plan to return to their country once they are done with it.
Simply applying does not show immigrant intent because you can change your mind, not get selected, get selected and decide not to proceed with it...
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Correct. This is why KCC select so many more people than visas are available, because many entrants do not actually want to immigrate after all. Just entering a lottery is not immigrant intent, nor is being selected. The point at which you express immigrant intent is by submitting DS260 (or i485 for adjustment applicants).
 
Kafui said:
if you don't want to submit ds260, then why take part in the lottery in the first place. Because even without ds260 they can still find your details in their system. US embassy can still find your name in their selectee system.
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when you fill the DV lottery application, you signal your interest in the idea

when you submit the DS260, it is showing interest that you want to immigrate

beside, many people after they get selected they decided not to go, remember that since you apply the DV application until the interview is a LONG time, many people's life do change, better job, more income, immigration to another country.

in the end it is your application, the advice was for people who plan at LEAST to come to visit the US on non immigration visa, not everyone has similar life as anyone else.
 
Chunky2k said:
when you fill the DV lottery application, you signal your interest in the idea

when you submit the DS260, it is showing interest that you want to immigrate

beside, many people after they get selected they decided not to go, remember that since you apply the DV application until the interview is a LONG time, many people's life do change, better job, more income, immigration to another country.

in the end it is your application, the advice was for people who plan at LEAST to come to visit the US on non immigration visa, not everyone has similar life as anyone else.
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The advice was for people with higher numbers. I presume everyone here understands that interviews are scheduled in case number order. For people with higher numbers, there is plenty of time to wait and see how the visa bulletin is progressing before submitting DS260. There is no benefit gained by submitting early so there is simply no rush, when there may be a negative consequence for immigrant intent. 214b - inability to overcome the presumption of immigrant intent - is the most common reason for non immigrant visa refusals.
 
Hello, everyone! I have just found this forum this morning. I really appreciate the information here.
My husband is a selectee in DV2021, case number 2021EU00005XXX.
I have a question about one of my previous addresses and the required police certificate. Here is the case:

When I was young (22 years old) in the period from the end of December 2006 till June 2008 I lived and worked in Greece (in the sphere of tourism). But I didn't have neither an employment contract, nor I had registered for a temporary residence in the police department.

Me and my husband sent our DS forms 3 weeks ago but in my application I didn't mention the fact that I lived in another country (Greece) for a period of an year and a half. These days I realized that mistake and asked KCC to unlock my DS260 in order to fill in the missing details about Greece. A day after KCC unlocked my DS260 my husband received the mail from them with the instructions for the further supporting DV documents.

The problem is that I cannot obtain a police certificate from Greece, because in the reciprocity page is given the following information:
"Non-Greek citizens residing abroad cannot apply for a Penal Record at a Greek embassy or consulate overseas. Such applicants will need to authorize a representative to apply on their behalf. Authorizations must be notarized at a Greek embassy or consulate overseas. Representatives for non-Greek citizens residing overseas can apply for in person at the Bureau of Penal Records for Foreigners (Υπηρεσία Ποινικού Μητρώου Αλλοδαπών - Ipiresia Pinikou Mitroou allodapon), Mesogion 96, 101 79"

I don't know a person whom to authorize to apply on my behalf. Also I cannot personally visit the Ministry of Justice in Greece because of Covid situation. Today I talked to the Greek Embassy in my home country and he told me that he is not authorized to issue such police certificates.

How should I proceed now? I think must mention my residence in Greece in DS260. And then when sending the supporting documents I will explain KCC why I do not attach a police certificate from Greece.
What would be your advice? Would this lead to disqualification for me?

Thanks a lot.
 
macherie said:
Hello, everyone! I have just found this forum this morning. I really appreciate the information here.
My husband is a selectee in DV2021, case number 2021EU00005XXX.
I have a question about one of my previous addresses and the required police certificate. Here is the case:

When I was young (22 years old) in the period from the end of December 2006 till June 2008 I lived and worked in Greece (in the sphere of tourism). But I didn't have neither an employment contract, nor I had registered for a temporary residence in the police department.

Me and my husband sent our DS forms 3 weeks ago but in my application I didn't mention the fact that I lived in another country (Greece) for a period of an year and a half. These days I realized that mistake and asked KCC to unlock my DS260 in order to fill in the missing details about Greece. A day after KCC unlocked my DS260 my husband received the mail from them with the instructions for the further supporting DV documents.

The problem is that I cannot obtain a police certificate from Greece, because in the reciprocity page is given the following information:
"Non-Greek citizens residing abroad cannot apply for a Penal Record at a Greek embassy or consulate overseas. Such applicants will need to authorize a representative to apply on their behalf. Authorizations must be notarized at a Greek embassy or consulate overseas. Representatives for non-Greek citizens residing overseas can apply for in person at the Bureau of Penal Records for Foreigners (Υπηρεσία Ποινικού Μητρώου Αλλοδαπών - Ipiresia Pinikou Mitroou allodapon), Mesogion 96, 101 79"

I don't know a person whom to authorize to apply on my behalf. Also I cannot personally visit the Ministry of Justice in Greece because of Covid situation. Today I talked to the Greek Embassy in my home country and he told me that he is not authorized to issue such police certificates.

How should I proceed now? I think must mention my residence in Greece in DS260. And then when sending the supporting documents I will explain KCC why I do not attach a police certificate from Greece.
What would be your advice? Would this lead to disqualification for me?

Thanks a lot.
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If the reciprocity page states that you are unable to get a copy then you should be fine, print out a copy of that page and submit it with the other documents requested. (and yes you must list your residence in Greece.) Take a copy of the same page when you eventually go for your intervie.
 
frog27 said:
That is one of the reasons KCC is created. Explain to them this situation and they will understand. Your problem is a known issue because it is a state related so informations can easily be checked by KCC themselves. Take it easy guys.
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Absolute nonsense. Again. Please stop telling people to call KCC. KCC won't know, and won't answer these sort of questions. Despite what you keep saying that is NOT their role.
 
macherie said:
Hello, everyone! I have just found this forum this morning. I really appreciate the information here.
My husband is a selectee in DV2021, case number 2021EU00005XXX.
I have a question about one of my previous addresses and the required police certificate. Here is the case:

When I was young (22 years old) in the period from the end of December 2006 till June 2008 I lived and worked in Greece (in the sphere of tourism). But I didn't have neither an employment contract, nor I had registered for a temporary residence in the police department.

Me and my husband sent our DS forms 3 weeks ago but in my application I didn't mention the fact that I lived in another country (Greece) for a period of an year and a half. These days I realized that mistake and asked KCC to unlock my DS260 in order to fill in the missing details about Greece. A day after KCC unlocked my DS260 my husband received the mail from them with the instructions for the further supporting DV documents.

The problem is that I cannot obtain a police certificate from Greece, because in the reciprocity page is given the following information:
"Non-Greek citizens residing abroad cannot apply for a Penal Record at a Greek embassy or consulate overseas. Such applicants will need to authorize a representative to apply on their behalf. Authorizations must be notarized at a Greek embassy or consulate overseas. Representatives for non-Greek citizens residing overseas can apply for in person at the Bureau of Penal Records for Foreigners (Υπηρεσία Ποινικού Μητρώου Αλλοδαπών - Ipiresia Pinikou Mitroou allodapon), Mesogion 96, 101 79"

I don't know a person whom to authorize to apply on my behalf. Also I cannot personally visit the Ministry of Justice in Greece because of Covid situation. Today I talked to the Greek Embassy in my home country and he told me that he is not authorized to issue such police certificates.

How should I proceed now? I think must mention my residence in Greece in DS260. And then when sending the supporting documents I will explain KCC why I do not attach a police certificate from Greece.
What would be your advice? Would this lead to disqualification for me?

Thanks a lot.
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I had already answered you by email. It's frustrating that you ignore that and ask again.

As I have explained already, the reciprocity instructions say what you need to do - you quoted it above, and you are required to follow the procedure described. So now you need to engage an attorney to be your authorized representative to apply for you. You asked this morning if I could recommend a lawyer - well of course I don't know any Athens based lawyers - but you could use google to find one located close to the Mesogion address shown.

This isn't complicated, no need to keep asking. You can follow the instructions you have.
 
Sorry, Britsimon! I am really worried, that's why I'm asking here. Yes, I already found an attorney but he said that he is not sure if a police certificate could be issued, because of the lack of a contract and registration for a temporary address.
Thank you again and excuse my questioning.
 
Super safe to suggest they ask a complete stranger to get documents with highly sensitive information on their behalf. At this point I am convince you are either a complete troll, a horrible person with no empathy or both. I hope you get banned from this forum and that, in the meantime, no one follows your misguided and very mean spirited advice
 
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@frog27,

You are welcome to return to the forum at the end of your temporary ban, if you like. Hopefully you’ll post in a more responsible manner if you choose to return at the end of your timeout.
 
Hello guys, and I really want to thanks everyone here For the great effort.

I have a question.

I am married to US citizens and I got selected for DV2021.
I did not apply for green card yet trough marriage.
I prefer the DV over marriage cuz less headache faster ,and cheaper.
my question is
can I go through both processes at the same time? “ marriage and DVl”
or i should only pick one side?
thanks.
 
Sohaross said:
Hello guys, and I really want to thanks everyone here For the great effort.

I have a question.

I am married to US citizens and I got selected for DV2021.
I did not apply for green card yet trough marriage.
I prefer the DV over marriage cuz less headache faster ,and cheaper.
my question is
can I go through both processes at the same time? “ marriage and DVl”
or i should only pick one side?
thanks.
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You can do both, and process whichever one gets you there first. DV will be cheaper and simpler, but depending on your case number may be less certain. Also note that if you are or ever have been out of status, then marriage based AOS is your only route as being out of status would make you ineligible to adjust via DV. (You could however in that case still choose to do DV via CP, assuming that any overstay has not been longer than 180 days, which incurs a ban when you leave the US).

PS please post further questions in the AOS thread if you pursue that route as it is different to CP.
 
SusieQQQ said:
You can do both, and process whichever one gets you there first. DV will be cheaper and simpler, but depending on your case number may be less certain. Also note that if you are or ever have been out of status, then marriage based AOS is your only route as being out of status would make you ineligible to adjust via DV. (You could however in that case still choose to do DV via CP, assuming that any overstay has not been longer than 180 days, which incurs a ban when you leave the US).

PS please post further questions in the AOS thread if you pursue that route as it is different to CP.
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Thanks you so much. I never been out of status i will be good till 09/2021. and my CN is As28Xxx. I appreciate your help❤️
 
Hello. I have two concerns please help!
I live in third country as asylum seeker for 13 years and luckily, my wife got selected this year (DV 2021):
1. In my current country of residence the police certificate can't be given directly to the applicant, it can only be sent by mail directly to institution that requested it (in our case the US embassy), HOW DO I DEAL WITH THIS WHEN KCC REQUESTS OUR DOCUMENTS?
2. 11 years ago I was put in administrative detention pending a confirmation of my Identity to confirm that I qualify to file an asylum application, three months later I was released, SHOULD I include it as imprisonment? I didn't appear before any court, and all the relevant records no longer exist after 10 years as by law any records of this kind are deleted after 10 years unless they were serious crimes. Being unable to know how this affect my police record, I decided not to mention this event on my DS260, is this wise?
 
I am the winner of DV 2021 from Ethiopia I have some problem with filling DS 260 application form, regarding previous work experience address line and previous address.
my question is
1 what shall I fill in the employer address bar, were my workplace in the project (temporary address) and my employer address is in Head office (who issued my work experience), please explain to me which location address shall I fill in DS 260 application form "employer street address line" the project address or Head office address?
2 what shall I fill in the previous location street address (line 1)?
I was work in project camp (road construction project camp), our camp is in the middle of the rural area which doesn't have a city,sub-city and also related terms. so what shall I do to fill the on the DS 260 application form '' previous location street address (line 1 )'' . is that appropriate filling only the name of the place?
this is what confuses me to fill the form, please explain to me,
 
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