DV 2021 ALL SELECTEES

[SusieQQQ]

I can see how immigration intent can be used as a reason to reject an application in the future, even though it shouldn't.
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Actually, “ even though it shouldn't” is an incorrect statement - by law, every applicant for a non-immigrant visa is presumed to have immigrant intent unless it can be proven otherwise. So you will be starting from a base where you have confirmed that yourself, the opposite of proving you don’t have immigrant intent. Not saying it’s impossible to get a non immigrant visa after that but you’ve made it much harder. Section 214(b) of the INA.

 

[SusieQQQ]

hello, everybody!!
am from Ethiopia I have some problem filling DS 260 application form regarding previous work experience, so my question is what shall I fill i the employer address bar, my workplace in the project my employer address is in Head office (different Place), please explain to me which location I shall fill the project address or Head office address

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Please don’t rush to submit your DS260.
Also go look at BritSimonsays website for more information about why you should wait to submit, as well as information about filling it out if you absolutely insist on submitting now even though (unless the lawsuit is successful) no visas are available to anyone until at least January, much less your number.

 

[DV21M]

do you think is that a good idea?

I think it is the best and wisest idea, I am in the low 6K and I will do that. If you fill it, there will be immigrant intent in your record and it will make it extremely complicated to get any other kind of non immigrant visa (F1, B1, J1, H1B... may even affect an ESTA). Sure, given that situation you could try and explain it but it will be reaaaaaaaaaally complicated and why take the risk anyway given there is another option? If things do get better by then, you will have plenty of time to fill it.

 

[Sm1smom]

Whoever does not submit DS260 is truly a schmuck. People here will advise you not to send DS260 so you leave a chance for them to be interviewed. Einstein said he was not sure human's stupidity has limits. Here we are seeing he was right. Submit your DS260 Asap you shmucks. That is why you attended the Dv lottery at the first place.

The one who clearly doesn’t understand the DV process, who doesn’t understand the fact that submitting the DS260 form with a high CN that may potentially not become current and his encouraging others to demonstrate an immigrant intent when they may not become current comes across more like the schmuck to me.

 

[SusieQQQ]

Some of us have been around here since we got our own green cards via DV some years back. We have absolutely no ulterior motives in trying to stop people getting visas, as we got ours years back. We are here simply to help people, having seen what works and what doesn't in prior years.
I also believe strongly that people who resort to name calling and cussing on public forums usually do so to try draw attention away from the fact that they don’t actually have a logical argument. I don’t think anyone who acts like a child calling people names is showing that they understand enough for their “advice“ to be followed.

 

[Sm1smom]

@frog27
1. Watch your language - foul language will not be tolerated
2. Seat back and learn the process first
3. Consider this a formal warning

 

[SSK4U]

About filling the ds260 now or not... like they saying is up to you to understand the process before filling the ds260 and also making an immigration intent.

A friend was denied an immigrant visa through DV lottery but later on married a USA citizen and applied for an immigrant visa CR1 and he was successful without any problems.

 

[SSK4U]

I think it is the best and wisest idea, I am in the low 6K and I will do that. If you fill it, there will be immigrant intent in your record and it will make it extremely complicated to get any other kind of non immigrant visa (F1, B1, J1, H1B... may even affect an ESTA). Sure, given that situation you could try and explain it but it will be reaaaaaaaaaally complicated and why take the risk anyway given there is another option? If things do get better by then, you will have plenty of time to fill it.

I don't think if you provide all the necessary information it would be extremely complicated to get any other kind of visa like you saying. It's those who give out misinformation on their forms have complicated issues.

 

[Britsimon]

Whoever does not submit DS260 is truly a schmuck. People here will advise you not to send DS260 so you leave a chance for them to be interviewed. Einstein said he was not sure human's stupidity has limits. Here we are seeing he was right. Submit your DS260 Asap you shmucks. That is why you attended the Dv lottery at the first place.

Don't give people advice when you clearly don't understand the issues involved, or the problems that could be caused.

 

[SusieQQQ]

I don't think if you provide all the necessary information it would be extremely complicated to get any other kind of visa like you saying. It's those who give out misinformation on their forms have complicated issues.

Are you aware of section 214b of the INA?

 

[Sm1smom]

About filling the ds260 now or not... like they saying is up to you to understand the process before filling the ds260 and also making an immigration intent.

A friend was denied an immigrant visa through DV lottery but later on married a USA citizen and applied for an immigrant visa CR1 and he was successful without any problems.

Apples and oranges comparison. There’s no reason for your friend’s marriage based immigrant petition to not have been approved. A previously demonstrated immigrant intent which resulted in an unsuccessful outcome has no bearing on a new immigrant petition.

 

[SSK4U]

Are you aware of section 214b of the INA?

Yes unless you want to give me further explanation since you know more than me here...

 

[SSK4U]

Apples and oranges comparison. There’s no reason for your friend’s marriage based immigrant petition to not have been approved. A previously demonstrated immigrant intent which resulted in an unsuccessful outcome has no bearing on a new immigrant petition.

So you couldn't have given your point without staying "apples and oranges comparison" and oh I read your early response you wrote but you deleted it.

 

[DV21M]

Whoever does not submit DS260 is truly a schmuck. People here will advise you not to send DS260 so you leave a chance for them to be interviewed. Einstein said he was not sure human's stupidity has limits. Here we are seeing he was right. Submit your DS260 Asap you shmucks. That is why you attended the Dv lottery at the first place.

This is probably the most uneducated and rude message I have seen in the whole forum so far. It is also pretty harmful for whoever does not know best and decides to take your misguided and very very incorrect advice.

 

[DV21M]

Yes unless you want to give me further explanation since you know more than me here...

I don't think if you provide all the necessary information it would be extremely complicated to get any other kind of visa like you saying. It's those who give out misinformation on their forms have complicated issues.

It has nothing to do with giving out misinformation or having other issues or not providing all the necessary information. When you apply for any kind of visa you are automatically presumed to have immigrant intent (as a starting point) and if the visa you are applying for is a non immigrant, you have to overcome this presumption -it is on you to convince the CO that you do not intend to immigrate-. In most cases, it is fine (I have seen plenty of people applying to be students or Au Pairs without even having to worry about this) but I also have seen friends getting those same visas denied because they could not prove "strong ties to their countries" (meaning that they would come back once the purpose of that visa was fulfilled).
Now, if in the past you have declared immigrant intent (for example by filling a DS260), you add to that general presumption the fact that you have in fact confirmed it yourself. Sure, I guess there are cases where you could still overcome it, but it will be immensely harder.

We even saw someone in the forum a few weeks back that is facing the issue of overcoming that presumption ONLY because they were selected for the DV, they hadn't even submitted their DS260 and now they were worried about not being able to attend the college they had been admitted into.

PS: in the example of your friend, the visa they were getting later was also an immigrant visa so there is no issue regarding immigrant intent.

 

[DV21M]

Folks, follow the steps of the process you got in. Your source is KCC. If you get selected, do what KCC tells you to do whenever they ask to. This forum is trespassing what it is meant for. Tips are good. But starting to get in KCC's personnel mind and makes guesses and If If and maybe's, will screw this simple thing made of simple clear steps. Unfortunately, YouTube videos from former dv lottery winners giving "generously" free advices to those in the process of immigration are also a disaster sometimes. Rules from KCC change every year or so. You are a dv lottery 2021 winner, then just see what KCC asks you to do and do it asap. That simple.

So, if you are so well versed on US immigration system and laws, what can you tell me about declaring immigrant intent and that representing a problem in the future if DV's situation does not resolve in time for these people (us people, me included) to get the interview and/or visas?
Do you realize that by telling people to submit their DS260 "ASAP" you are messing with their future opportunities and chances to do something else in life in the US (ie. study)?
It feels kinda cocky and egotistical to me, to be honest. If you want to submit your DS (which by previous posts seems you did right away) then that is great for you. If you have no other intentions of going to the US in the future if you do not get a chance to get the DV, then good for you. Now, if you are not sour because you have realized that you might have screwed up submitting it so soon without being patience and gathering all the appropriate information, then I am sorry for you; but I do not think it is fair or nice to come here to discredit other people's hard and VOLUNTARY work and to misguide anyone looking for actual help. Specially because you clearly do not look very educated/informed about US immigration system yourself.

 

[SSK4U]

Why did you play the DV lottery in the first place if you didn't have an immigrant intent?
For me it's because you have one that was why you played the lottery and you have read all the necessary requirements before even playing the lottery.
I don't want to assume that this same thing don't fill the ds260 early has cost lots of DV2020 applicants not getting their visas in time before covid-19 became a pandemic.

 

[Chunky2k]

In conclusion as far i read here:

If you have plans to visit the US (as i understood so far for non immigration visa) it is better not to file the DS260 just now and wait:
A) Until AILA or any other law suits takes the ban down.
B) the ban ends at the end of December and never get extended

If you are not planning to visit the US, you can proceed with the DS260.

In either ways it is your decision and best of luck to you all

 

[DV21M]

In conclusion as far i read here:

If you have plans to visit the US (as i understood so far for non immigration visa) it is better not to file the DS260 just now and wait:
A) Until AILA or any other law suits takes the ban down.
B) the ban ends at the end of December and never get extended

If you are not planning to visit the US, you can proceed with the DS260.

In either ways it is your decision and best of luck to you all

Visiting, studying, temporary or seasonal work, Au Pair, visiting teacher, exchange of any kind, internship...

 

[Kafui]

if you don't want to submit ds260, then why take part in the lottery in the first place. Because even without ds260 they can still find your details in their system. US embassy can still find your name in their selectee system.