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Hi all,

Firstly, what an amazing bunch of people here! I want to say thank you on behalf of all who have questions to those who take the time to reply as I know it has helped myself and I'm sure many others a great deal (and calmed the nerves a bit too).
I have fastidiously read all 49 pages of this thread, studied britsimonsays' page and done a bunch of google searches so I'm hoping I have a fair idea of what the process involves... so on to my questions :cool::

For reference, my CN is OC3xx

1. I have a long-term partner for a number of years. We are unfazed by marriage and never really considered it being too important. Of course, given the DV selection, the best/easiest/quickest way to be able to both move is get married. I am mildly concerned that we will take too long and miss out altogether. In our country, you must provide at least one month's notice of intent to marry before you can actually marry (stops those running off to elope after a few days), which means even if we were to file that tomorrow, the absolute earliest we could get married is early September, then file the DS260's... I know processing continues for around a year, but I'm concerned given the talk of quick processing times, and low selectee numbers that if we wait for too long it will all pass us by. Is this concern genuine or unfounded?
2. Given DV2021 results will come out in May, which is still inclusive of processing timeline for DV2020, would it be worth it (to take the time pressure off a bit) for my partner to apply for DV2021 and await the results before deciding upon immediate marriage? Again, I'm concerned this would be leaving it too late.
3. I'm not particularly concerned about being able to prove the legitimacy of our relationship, but I'm wondering if the interviewing officers are perhaps more suspicious about cases where the couple have married after DV selection notification?
4. I have used a slightly different spelling of my name in the past, mostly as a precaution to differentiate from my legal name for certain uses (i.e. social media etc.). Do I need to list this under 'other names' despite it not ever being a legal spelling of my name?
 
bbp56 said:
Hi all,

Firstly, what an amazing bunch of people here! I want to say thank you on behalf of all who have questions to those who take the time to reply as I know it has helped myself and I'm sure many others a great deal (and calmed the nerves a bit too).
I have fastidiously read all 49 pages of this thread, studied britsimonsays' page and done a bunch of google searches so I'm hoping I have a fair idea of what the process involves... so on to my questions :cool::

For reference, my CN is OC3xx

1. I have a long-term partner for a number of years. We are unfazed by marriage and never really considered it being too important. Of course, given the DV selection, the best/easiest/quickest way to be able to both move is get married. I am mildly concerned that we will take too long and miss out altogether. In our country, you must provide at least one month's notice of intent to marry before you can actually marry (stops those running off to elope after a few days), which means even if we were to file that tomorrow, the absolute earliest we could get married is early September, then file the DS260's... I know processing continues for around a year, but I'm concerned given the talk of quick processing times, and low selectee numbers that if we wait for too long it will all pass us by. Is this concern genuine or unfounded?
2. Given DV2021 results will come out in May, which is still inclusive of processing timeline for DV2020, would it be worth it (to take the time pressure off a bit) for my partner to apply for DV2021 and await the results before deciding upon immediate marriage? Again, I'm concerned this would be leaving it too late.
3. I'm not particularly concerned about being able to prove the legitimacy of our relationship, but I'm wondering if the interviewing officers are perhaps more suspicious about cases where the couple have married after DV selection notification?
4. I have used a slightly different spelling of my name in the past, mostly as a precaution to differentiate from my legal name for certain uses (i.e. social media etc.). Do I need to list this under 'other names' despite it not ever being a legal spelling of my name?
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1. Submitting your DS260 in September, or even between October and December still gives you plenty of time to complete the process as a married couple.

2. This option is actually adding more pressure IMO, not taking off pressure, if you decide to wait until May to find out if your partner gets selected for DV2021 before proceeding with yours.

3. They review on a case by case basis.

4. List them under the other names section of your form.
 
If I submitted the DS-260 in May 29, and th CN is around 3100 range for Asia, should I receive request for supporting docs yet ? Should I call KCC or still need to exercise my patience?
 
Anybody from Asia received Documents request from KCC after DS-260? Please share with your CN range and date of DS-260 submission. I am getting little impatient. :)
 
Everest2020 said:
Anybody from Asia received Documents request from KCC after DS-260? Please share with your CN range and date of DS-260 submission. I am getting little impatient. :)
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The DS260 was submitted in mid-May and received a request for document last week. And my CN is 7xxx. Still preparing the paperwork ... What is your CN?
 
Alishan said:
I know someone from Iran with a CN around 2000 who has not received any email from KCC requesting for documents.
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Iran is in the list of banned countries so probably that's why. But I have been told the disqualification will happen at the interview
 
firmjoy said:
The DS260 was submitted in mid-May and received a request for document last week. And my CN is 7xxx. Still preparing the paperwork ... What is your CN?
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Wow 7000 range already asked for the docs. Mine is Asia 3000 range ds-260 submitted on last week of May. What region is yours ? Are you sure it’s 7000 range or 700?
 
WBA said:
Iran is in the list of banned countries so probably that's why. But I have been told the disqualification will happen at the interview
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No, that's not true. Though Iran is banned people are scheduled as normal. Some people can even get their visas if they show a satisfactory waiver of Travel Ban. And it is being heard that since July waiver processing time has been decreased and it is expected that a considerable number of Iranian can get their visas.
 
Alishan said:
No, that's not true. Though Iran is banned people are scheduled as normal. Some people can even get their visas if they show a satisfactory waiver of Travel Ban. And it is being heard that since July waiver processing time has been decreased and it is expected that a considerable number of Iranian can get their visas.
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Why? The barriers for getting a waiver are not just the time, but also the standards that need to be met to justify the waiver. It's not easy - so I would hate for people to have unrealistic expectations.
 
Britsimon said:
Why? The barriers for getting a waiver are not just the time, but also the standards that need to be met to justify the waiver. It's not easy - so I would hate for people to have unrealistic expectations.
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The USA embassy for iranian advises people to come and interview. Maybe USA embassy shouldn't give people false hope. They even don't tell what is waiver. No one knows what actually consider a waiver. There is no form or procedure.
So people go with the hoep their situation consider a waiver.
However, so far the only people I have seen that was able to get the waiver had a second passport from other citizenship or a first degree family member that are USA citizen and proved hardship to their family
 
tinaina said:
The USA embassy for iranian advises people to come and interview. Maybe USA embassy shouldn't give people false hope. The only people I have seen that was able to get the waiver had a second passport from other citizenship or a first degree family member that are USA citizen and proved hardship to their family
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The first point (second citizenship) is a defined exception.
The second point (family member) is highly UNlikely to succeed. The rules we modified during the various implementations of the ban and various court cases. At one point a close family member (the definition of "close" was challenged and changed at least once) was enough to get an exception, but that rule changed. Now each case must meet three tests (not just the hardship one you mentioned):

1) denying entry would cause the foreign national undue hardship;
2) entry would not pose a threat to the national security or public safety of the United States; and
3) entry would be in the national interest.

Point 1 is hard to prove in itself (because except for the lottery win, the selectee would have had to cope with their normal life anyway), but point 3 is very hard to meet, and entirely arbitrary.

As of now I have not heard of a single DV case that has managed to get a waiver outside of the normal exceptions (such as dual citizenship). Not one.
 
Britsimon said:
The first point (second citizenship) is a defined exception.
The second point (family member) is highly UNlikely to succeed. The rules we modified during the various implementations of the ban and various court cases. At one point a close family member (the definition of "close" was challenged and changed at least once) was enough to get an exception, but that rule changed. Now each case must meet three tests (not just the hardship one you mentioned):

1) denying entry would cause the foreign national undue hardship;
2) entry would not pose a threat to the national security or public safety of the United States; and
3) entry would be in the national interest.

Point 1 is hard to prove in itself (because except for the lottery win, the selectee would have had to cope with their normal life anyway), but point 3 is very hard to meet, and entirely arbitrary.

As of now I have not heard of a single DV case that has managed to get a waiver outside of the normal exceptions (such as dual citizenship). Not one.
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You're right. It seems unlikely for a lottery winner to prove that his/her entry would cause undue hardship. Because lottery is a random process in itself. But it seems that consular officers have started to consider having an immediate family and job offer an indication of a satisfactory waiver. There are a couple of cases who could get their visas in July. Parents of a permanent resident. Someone having admission letter for a research fellow.
Someone who had interview on July 29th was asked by officer if he has any immediate family or job offer and when he replied no his case was denied.
That being said, the number of selectees who have immediate family and job offer is not that high.
 
Britsimon said:
The first point (second citizenship) is a defined exception.
The second point (family member) is highly UNlikely to succeed. The rules we modified during the various implementations of the ban and various court cases. At one point a close family member (the definition of "close" was challenged and changed at least once) was enough to get an exception, but that rule changed. Now each case must meet three tests (not just the hardship one you mentioned):

1) denying entry would cause the foreign national undue hardship;
2) entry would not pose a threat to the national security or public safety of the United States; and
3) entry would be in the national interest.

Point 1 is hard to prove in itself (because except for the lottery win, the selectee would have had to cope with their normal life anyway), but point 3 is very hard to meet, and entirely arbitrary.

As of now I have not heard of a single DV case that has managed to get a waiver outside of the normal exceptions (such as dual citizenship). Not one.
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There have been so far 6 DV visa lottery dedicated to iranian in lottery year 2019. Two if the lm were a perents of USA citizen that were lucky to be selected in lottery.
Again, no one know what are the waiver.
I have seen one woman that won 2019 Lottery in Iran that has a husband in USA with green card and they told her her waiver is under review. I think she has high chance of getting before September 2019 as they haven't denied her yet.
I also know of one other case that had a job offer from USA and they approved her because of showing her job offer is a type of national interest. Although I have seen so many lottery winner in Iran got a job offer from USA in hope it consider national interest however except that woman I have not seen any of them get the waiver. Although they are not denied yet either. That woman also had a brother in USA. That woman said she got her green card in July and I want to check the statistics when it comes out to see if DV lottery has atleast one for iranian in July to make sure she was honest.
Except these cases that I have read their posts in Persian forums and groups, I don't know how the other three out of six got their green card through lottery in 2019.
 
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Alishan said:
You're right. It seems unlikely for a lottery winner to prove that his/her entry would cause undue hardship. Because lottery is a random process in itself. But it seems that consular officers have started to consider having an immediate family and job offer an indication of a satisfactory waiver. There are a couple of cases who could get their visas in July. Parents of a permanent resident. Someone having admission letter for a research fellow.
Someone who had interview on July 29th was asked by officer if he has any immediate family or job offer and when he replied no his case was denied.
That being said, the number of selectees who have immediate family and job offer is not that high.
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That is true .
And no one knows why some officer consider these as a waiver and some officer don't. Apparently, the waiver is in the officer hand to consider to anyone they think.
I have seen so many people gather a job offer or family and their case is under review. Two more months and we can see how many of them actually will get the visa.
 
Hello 2020 Selectees, Regarding DS-260 form, I'm confused about how to answer two questions over there, (Note that it comes under title of Law Violation):
(1).Do you seek to enter the US for the purpose of performing skilled or unskilled labor but have not yet been certified by the Secretary of Labor?
(2).Are you a foreign medical graduate seeking to perform these duties but you haven't yet passed the license exam?

Being a pharmacist I'm not sure how to answer both Qs. Should I write down YES to both of them.. then explain I'm planning on working at different jobs till I get any required licenses to perform my primary profession as a pharmacist in the US? and as new immigrant I will abide by the law according to the state before performing any job? or should I say NO as I'm not intending to violate any laws!
 
Hello friends,
I have to stay for 2 more years to finish my education in my home country. How should I mention this at my interview? Can I be refused a green card based on that?
 
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