Dv 2009 - Aos Only

[NuvF]

When to file I-485

Dfdo,
This is one of those contentious issues with no clear answer....

Well....as I have a high DV09-AS number (20XXX), I would really like to find out the USCIS stand on this.'Cos my number would (if at all !) be current only in Aug or Sept 09!!

For what ever it takes I wrote to the USCIS community relations office ( HQ.CommunityRelations@dhs.gov Cc. Chicago.CommunityRelations@dhs.gov) and also to the USCIS ombudsman ( cisombudsman@dhs.gov ) pointing out the contradiction and asking for clarification. (may be just a pipe dream to expect an answer from any of them, but doesnt hurt to try!! )

Some of you guys can may be do the same. I've learned that the 'synergistic effect' can have a profound impact !! (or may be just piss them off?? )

ravesky, did you find the contradiction? Just read those 2 press releases, the pages I ve mentioned, its obvious.

 

[raevsky]

ravesky, did you find the contradiction? Just read those 2 press releases, the pages I ve mentioned, its obvious.

No, I do not see it. Maybe I am stupid enough, but all three memos say exactly the same thing to me.
So, what differences do YOU see?

 

[NuvF]

No, I do not see it. Maybe I am stupid enough, but all three memos say exactly the same thing to me.

Oh...I just saw your AOS-2008 forum posting on this. Well.....I will leave it at that. May be the USCIS inconsitancy that i know of come from few real cases that i personally know. But I appreciate your effort in arguing that there is no inconsistancy in those memos. Afterall they are not 'law' or part of INA, and USCIS has argued time and again in lawsuits that their 'discretionary' authority given by law overides any memos/rules/communiques etc.

 

[raevsky]

Again. If you know any real cases, bring them here. All I need is two dates (the date of application and the date the number was current; the number itself would be helpful) and the reason for denial.
Do not bring cases unless you know BOTH dates because they do not prove anything.

 

[dematra]

Well....as I have a high DV09-AS number (20XXX), I would really like to find out the USCIS stand on this.'Cos my number would (if at all !) be current only in Aug or Sept 09!!......

Dfdo,
Maybe CP should be something you should be seriously considering. I know I would. Just because you submit your AOS petition early doesn't mean USCIS will even look at it since you don't have an immigrant number assigned to you until your number is current.

Just a thought...

 

[raevsky]

CP is definitely a very wise choice here.

 

[plus07]

Whether one can file early is an unclear and we've had a contentious discussion about this on the forum. I think it's up to the individual to decide whether to take the risk, and whether CP may be a better option. I've tried to summarize the issues in a previous post:

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[ALU4E]

AOS physical

For those who didn't recieve a second NL, where did you get the list of the local physician offices that are approved by USCIS?

 

[ALU4E]

Uscis Moves Lockbox To New Site In Chicago

Just for private couriers only NOT USPS.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/update_lockbox_053008.pdf

 

[dematra]

For those who didn't recieve a second NL, where did you get the list of the local physician offices that are approved by USCIS?

On the USCIS website there is a spot where you can look up a list of USCIS Designated Civil Surgeons. https://egov.uscis.gov/crisgwi/go?action=offices.type&OfficeLocator.office_type=CIV

Good question though. Which begs another; Can I just do the medicals before I get the 2nd NL (with the medical forms) before I get the forms in the mail by just downloading them off the USCIS website?

 

[plus07]

I am doing DV 2008 AOS. After I sent DSP-122 and DS-230 to KCC, I received a 1-page letter from KCC thanking me for informing them of my intention to adjust status, and containing some additional instructions. The letter did not contain any forms or lists of civil surgeons - this is different from CP.

I got the list of civil surgeons from the USCIS web-site, and an AOS forms package at the local USCIS office. You can also download them online.

You can do the medical at any time you want, but there's a time limit to how long it's valid. I don't remember what it is, but you can look it up online.

 

[dematra]

plus07,
So you just printed out the Medical forms, picked a civil surgeon and had your med exam done?

Everyone else,
I saw somewhere (I think it was on the NL) that once USCIS 'finds you eligible to adjust your status' case then you pay the DV $375.00 to DoS. So if you already know that you are eligible for AOS then is it wise to send in the DV fee at the same time you send in the DSP-122? Or is it best to wait until you file the I-485 with USCIS and get the NOA before paying up?

 

[plus07]

plus07,
So you just printed out the Medical forms, picked a civil surgeon and had your med exam done?

Yes, except I got the form from the local USCIS office. It used to be a form with multiple copies and carbon copy paper between them, so it will be easier for the civil surgeon to fill in all the copies. Also, keep in mind the validity of the medical - don't do the exam too early.

 

[dematra]

It used to be a form with multiple copies and carbon copy paper between them, so it will be easier for the civil surgeon to fill in all the copies.

So the forms you picked up at the USCIS office were carbon copy ready? I know they have a new form(updated around April-May). Hmmmm.......am sure the civil surgeons know how best to go about this since they do it all the time. Thanks though...

 

[plus07]

So the forms you picked up at the USCIS office were carbon copy ready? I know they have a new form(updated around April-May). Hmmmm.......am sure the civil surgeons know how best to go about this since they do it all the time. Thanks though...

It doesn't really matter - they can always run the copy machine.

 

[plus07]

plus07,
Everyone else,
I saw somewhere (I think it was on the NL) that once USCIS 'finds you eligible to adjust your status' case then you pay the DV $375.00 to DoS. So if you already know that you are eligible for AOS then is it wise to send in the DV fee at the same time you send in the DSP-122? Or is it best to wait until you file the I-485 with USCIS and get the NOA before paying up?

If you send in the fee early, there's more time for them to cash it, mark your file as paid, and send you a receipt. This will minimize the chance of a confusion. My receipt took about 1 month to arrive.

 

[ALU4E]

On the USCIS website there is a spot where you can look up a list of USCIS Designated Civil Surgeons. https://egov.uscis.gov/crisgwi/go?action=offices.type&OfficeLocator.office_type=CIV

Good question though. Which begs another; Can I just do the medicals before I get the 2nd NL (with the medical forms) before I get the forms in the mail by just downloading them off the USCIS website?

I found that, the local public health clinic can do it.
based on my income they will do it for free, at least for the two kids.
If it is not free, it will be at lower rate than regular physician office.
Am I right?

 

[plus07]

I found that, the local public health clinic can do it.
based on my income they will do it for free, at least for the two kids.
If it is not free, it will be at lower rate than regular physician office.
Am I right?

It has to be a USCIS certified civil surgeon. If the clinic has a USCIS certified civil surgeon, he or she can do it, otherwise no. You can find out the list of certified civil surgeons in your area on the USCIS website.

 

[dematra]

I found that, the local public health clinic can do it.
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Good catch ALU4E, I hadn't noticed that. It appears that my local public clinic is listed as having a civil surgeon. I'll have to see if I qualify for lower fees.

UPDATE: I was looking at a web-site for a non-profit organization in my city that supports new immigrants. The say that immigrants at any stage can use services at the local public health clinics for medical eveluation that support their petitions. Plus, immigrants can get free legal advise there (at this organization)! YESSSSS!!!

It has to be a USCIS certified civil surgeon. If the clinic has a USCIS certified civil surgeon,.....

I think my health insuarance pays for one full medical check-up a year. So i'll have to see if I can get them to pay for this med exam at one of the other private civil surgeons if the public clinic won't do it for cheaper.

 

[Ausmatt7]

So has anyone who is doin AOS for Dv 2009 received a 2nd letter from the KCC confirming receipt of dsp -122 and yur election to do AOS??

Just curious..