So pregnancy leading to a birth of US citizen is not a factor in providing people with coupons for food, that's what I was saying. And more to that, pregnancy is not the only factor, because the program she participated in was created for low-income pregnant, breastfeeding, and non-breastfeeding postpartum women, and to infants and children up to age five. OK for now, she'll describe it on a separate sheet. Thanks for suggestion!
Dv 2009 - Aos Only
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I requested transcripts on 5/13. In addition I'll also get an affidavit just in case.
Hi folks,
USCIS says that using food stamps and some other benefits will not normally make someone a public charge. See their page on this topic and read the articles. (Click here - it's a link.)
Still, when an USCIS form asks about public assistance, I would mark "yes" and attach a separate sheet listing what type of assistance you received, according to those articles.
Masematn, the circumstances of your application (low income + large family + food stamps) may raise a red flag for the officer, and he or she may examine your application very carefully. So if I were you, I would prepare thoroughly, and perhaps consult a good lawyer.
USCIS says that using food stamps and some other benefits will not normally make someone a public charge. See their page on this topic and read the articles. (Click here - it's a link.)
Still, when an USCIS form asks about public assistance, I would mark "yes" and attach a separate sheet listing what type of assistance you received, according to those articles.
Masematn, the circumstances of your application (low income + large family + food stamps) may raise a red flag for the officer, and he or she may examine your application very carefully. So if I were you, I would prepare thoroughly, and perhaps consult a good lawyer.
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For those of you that might be wondering where raevsky got this interesting bit of information then here it is:
U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 9 (2006),
9 FAM 40.41 9 FAM 40.41 [Public Charge] NOTES, page 2-3
Available at: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86988.pdf
plus07 might be better supported by:
INS Public Charge Fact Sheet (1999) et al.
Available at: http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/public_cfs.pdf
Thanks to raevsky and plus07 for bringing them to our attention.
Both document are pretty clear about the issue. So, folks take a look ....
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Why does he need a lawer?
The answer to that question, is "yes" if he recieved an assistance or "no" if he didn't.
My kids are currently receiving foodstamps and having medicaid.
I'll say "yes", based on my income.
Me and those who are in the same boat have no other option.
masematn,
How many years did you request?
I am thinking 4 yrs is enough...but, still debating. I explained to the folks on the 2008 AOS thread about my situation, and they seem to think that I don't need the affidavit. And I kinda tend to agreee with them, so for now, i'll just not worry about it.
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NuvF
Member
Public Charge
The USCIS guidelines clearly say that they dont care about the public assistance that your 'other family members received'.....ie your US citizen kids. So there is no need to say 'yes' and explain, you dont have to. Any 'non cash, non-income maintainance' asistance even for a non-immigrant is NOT a ground for GC denial, it is clear I think. Do not show/explain them what they do not ask !
BTW, do you have to put the details of your US citizen kids in I-485 ? I dont think so. When you apply for the DV lottery you did not put them in, so why now? I'd say do not, and dont take them with you if you are called for interview !! That would make it easy with the income you need to show too.
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I am an ordinary layman just like you. You may want to dbl,trpl chk the info I've given. If you think I am wrong please post your response to that effect too. Cheers! Dfdo/
The USCIS guidelines clearly say that they dont care about the public assistance that your 'other family members received'.....ie your US citizen kids. So there is no need to say 'yes' and explain, you dont have to. Any 'non cash, non-income maintainance' asistance even for a non-immigrant is NOT a ground for GC denial, it is clear I think. Do not show/explain them what they do not ask !
BTW, do you have to put the details of your US citizen kids in I-485 ? I dont think so. When you apply for the DV lottery you did not put them in, so why now? I'd say do not, and dont take them with you if you are called for interview !! That would make it easy with the income you need to show too.
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I am an ordinary layman just like you. You may want to dbl,trpl chk the info I've given. If you think I am wrong please post your response to that effect too. Cheers! Dfdo/
NuvF
Member
Early filing & FBI delays
Below I give links to 2 important USCIS memos.
1. New rules in aproving I-485 s stuck for more than 180 days due to FBI name chk delays. (see page 2, 1st para in it)
www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/DOC017.PDF
2. Earliest possible day to file an AOS I 485. Chk the Q#11 in it and the response to it.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/MARCBOQA.pdf
So....my understanding is that those of you with high DV2009 region numbers, file your I485s asap after Oct 1st '08. I would also attach a copy of that memo page (Q#11 and answer to it)
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I am an ordinary layman just like you. You may want to dbl,trpl chk the info I've given.
If you think I am wrong please post your response to that effect too.
Cheers! Dfdo/
Below I give links to 2 important USCIS memos.
1. New rules in aproving I-485 s stuck for more than 180 days due to FBI name chk delays. (see page 2, 1st para in it)
www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/DOC017.PDF
2. Earliest possible day to file an AOS I 485. Chk the Q#11 in it and the response to it.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/MARCBOQA.pdf
So....my understanding is that those of you with high DV2009 region numbers, file your I485s asap after Oct 1st '08. I would also attach a copy of that memo page (Q#11 and answer to it)
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I am an ordinary layman just like you. You may want to dbl,trpl chk the info I've given.
If you think I am wrong please post your response to that effect too.
Cheers! Dfdo/
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Something new
Something new we've learnt today: AOS folks don't get a second NL. According to another user (orlandovillas), the second NL is for folks that request CP on DSP-122. Hmmm....interesting!
Something new we've learnt today: AOS folks don't get a second NL. According to another user (orlandovillas), the second NL is for folks that request CP on DSP-122. Hmmm....interesting!
I send two requests for three years, for 05-06, and for 07. That was because my tax status changed, and they have different addresses for that.
DV09Winner
New Member
According to the DV-2008 thread, those who did AOS did receive a second NL (including orlandovillas )
Why speculate if there are instructions? Part 3, B clearly says: "List [...] all of your sons and daughters."
They are of no interest for the lottery, because they do not need to immigrate. I-485 form is a much more complex document, and it has its own purposes.
See...after looking through the threads, I tend to suspect that these folks are talking about NOAs or a certain letter from KCC that apparently says that your case has been handed to USCIS. Makes me really curious since I will be moving in a few weeks and I don't want any DV related mail to fall through the cracks (you know how the whole 'change of address' thing works at USPS).
So...if the participants of this thread could try and clarify on which letter is which, I think we would all benefit.
orlandovillas
Registered Users (C)
You've taken that out of context (probably unintentionally). What I was saying is that you only get a second NL if you send back your forms after receiving the first NL (in the case of CP).
It was in response to someone who claimed to have lost his winning notification so didnt know his CN and hadnt returned his forms.
If you return your forms and are doing CP then you will get a second package at a later date (I believe with interview letter and medical information). I did AOS so not exactly sure what's in the second package.
It was in response to someone who claimed to have lost his winning notification so didnt know his CN and hadnt returned his forms.
If you return your forms and are doing CP then you will get a second package at a later date (I believe with interview letter and medical information). I did AOS so not exactly sure what's in the second package.
NuvF
Member
I 485 Early Filing
I think that this issue may have come up for discussion b4;
There are infact 2 USCIS memos on when to file the AOS I-485. Issued by 2 groups in USCIS, just days apart in 2008, and un-suprisingly
, contradictory to each other!!
1.www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/AILA_2Apr08.pdf
(issued 4-2-08, chk page #2 item II-5)
2. www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/MARCBOQA.pdf
(issued 3-25 and revised 4-3-08, chk Q&A #11)
so, does #2 supercedes # 1 ?? I am not sure
However, it is a known fact from the past DV s that ppl have been filing AOS well in advance the numbers become current. I personally know a friend who filed in July '05 for DV '06 and went thru smoothly! Also you may have seen ppl's horror stories getting rejected for filing early. I would like to think of it as part luck and part how knowledgable the person who handle the file initially at USCIS.
With the new rule giving remedy for FBI delays >180 days, I think it is safe to file asap after Oct 1st '08, especially if your numbers are high and you would expect them to become current only during last 2 months (Aug/Sept '09). I would for sure attach a copy of the memo #2, Q&A 11, justifying early filing.
I think that this issue may have come up for discussion b4;
There are infact 2 USCIS memos on when to file the AOS I-485. Issued by 2 groups in USCIS, just days apart in 2008, and un-suprisingly
, contradictory to each other!! 1.www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/AILA_2Apr08.pdf
(issued 4-2-08, chk page #2 item II-5)
2. www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/MARCBOQA.pdf
(issued 3-25 and revised 4-3-08, chk Q&A #11)
so, does #2 supercedes # 1 ?? I am not sure
However, it is a known fact from the past DV s that ppl have been filing AOS well in advance the numbers become current. I personally know a friend who filed in July '05 for DV '06 and went thru smoothly! Also you may have seen ppl's horror stories getting rejected for filing early. I would like to think of it as part luck and part how knowledgable the person who handle the file initially at USCIS.
With the new rule giving remedy for FBI delays >180 days, I think it is safe to file asap after Oct 1st '08, especially if your numbers are high and you would expect them to become current only during last 2 months (Aug/Sept '09). I would for sure attach a copy of the memo #2, Q&A 11, justifying early filing.
Dfdo,
This is one of those contentious issues with no clear answer. My advise is to just file when your number becomes current. Carefully weigh your risk tolerance and proceed.
raevsky,
Just out of curiosity, are you a DV2009 or a DV2008 selectee?