What is wrong with Canada

[LolaLi]

OK - Canada isn't the only country guilty of granting asylum to 'shady' people. Let's not overgeneralize here. I am not making excuses for Canada, but often when a nation is focused on humanitarian objectives some criminals may slip under the radar.

As a whole, Canadians are a peace-loving people. So I doubt that they all have some hidden agenda to bring down the USA.

 

[Lazerthegreat]

I think humanitarian laws in Canada are much better than in US. They start feeding you once you apply for ASylum. And its a welfare country. IF you don't have a job, gov. pays you.

 

[shamshon]

I think humanitarian laws in Canada are much better than in US. They start feeding you once you apply for ASylum. And its a welfare country. IF you don't have a job, gov. pays you.

not to mention FREE HEALTH CARE!

 

[samoel]

I think humanitarian laws in Canada are much better than in US. They start feeding you once you apply for ASylum. And its a welfare country. IF you don't have a job, gov. pays you.

not to mention FREE HEALTH CARE!

That's so nice of them ....Wonder how they pay for all that hmmm... maybe the people who work pay out of their ass in taxes

 

[Lazerthegreat]

yeah taxes are farely high in Canada. Only Their sales tax is 15%. Obviously any government gets money from its citizen and then repays that money back to citizens in various ways : highways development, schools, health care etc.. Now those countries who are peaceful give their money away in free health care but countries like USA who wants to invade Iraq and spend 200Billion in war leaves its citizen with expensive health.

Hope this makes sense why healthcare is free in Canada...

 

[shamshon]

That's so nice of them ....Wonder how they pay for all that hmmm... maybe the people who work pay out of their ass in taxes

Look at the big picture. Those who pay more taxes make more money, not because of hard work but because of legacy and oppression. They make more money because they keep all the wealth for themselves- I suggest you watch the documentary, "People like us: social class in America." I can understand that we have millionaires, but now we have more billionaires than ever. A person can have 10 million dollars and live like the king, but in a country like ours we have 400 billionaires and at the same time we have 45 million Americans without health insurance. Is that fair? It always frustrates me when people complain about paying taxes without noticing how they control the wealth of this country. Here are some numbers to think about. In America 90 % of the wealth is owned by 10 % of the population. It is good to make these 10 % pay out of their asses. Even those who are considered middle class, they are more privileged than the poor.

 

[shamshon]

yeah taxes are farely high in Canada. Only Their sales tax is 15%. Obviously any government gets money from its citizen and then repays that money back to citizens in various ways : highways development, schools, health care etc.. Now those countries who are peaceful give their money away in free health care but countries like USA who wants to invade Iraq and spend 200Billion in war leaves its citizen with expensive health.

Hope this makes sense why healthcare is free in Canada...

As of march 27th, the war in Iraq cost $158,931,366,989
Instead, we could have paid for 21,050,536 children to attend a year of Head Start.
Instead, we could have insured 95,168,744 children for one year.

www.costofwar.com

 

[Arizona_Poet]

As of march 27th, the war in Iraq cost $158,931,366,989
Instead, we could have paid for 21,050,536 children to attend a year of Head Start.
Instead, we could have insured 95,168,744 children for one year.

www.costofwar.com

Shamshon, Interesting webpage. I can't believe so much is been expended already in that war!!!!!!!... Check also the "war rises for American taxpayers" section. I hope this war ends soon, otherwise all americans will be paying broken dishes. Although I supported always the invasion to Iraq now I feel like is time to pull out and take care of local problems, especially the economy!.

 

[samoel]

Look at the big picture. Those who pay more taxes make more money, not because of hard work but because of legacy and oppression. They make more money because they keep all the wealth for themselves- I suggest you watch the documentary, "People like us: social class in America." I can understand that we have millionaires, but now we have more billionaires than ever. A person can have 10 million dollars and live like the king, but in a country like ours we have 400 billionaires and at the same time we have 45 million Americans without health insurance. Is that fair? It always frustrates me when people complain about paying taxes without noticing how they control the wealth of this country. Here are some numbers to think about. In America 90 % of the wealth is owned by 10 % of the population. It is good to make these 10 % pay out of their asses. Even those who are considered middle class, they are more privileged than the poor.

Well you can not be more wrong in my view. More people make money because they work hard. When I came here in '97 me and my wife together had ~$700 in cash, I hardly speaked any english (you might say I still do LOL) and eight years later we both run two small businesses make 6 figures a year each, never got any help from anybody, no legacy and pretty sure never oppressed anyone just hard WORK (and somewhat lucky). Now I pay my share of taxes, I donate to charities so who's to decide that I'm paying enough, who's to decide how much money is enough for me or my kids, who's to decide how many kids that don't have HC should I sponsor (instead of their parents). The system you suggest punishes the successful and the hard working people that ..yeah make a lot of money but in the same time hire thousand and thousands of people (providing HC retirement etc) and actually comes a point when it's easier (even cheaper) for the "filthy rich" to sell everything or fire everybody and retire than pay into your "fair" system of redistributing wealth. Everyone comes here for a better life but Who's to decide when you reached a good standard of life and keep working but start paying for everybody else that can't work, doesn't want to or works cash and gets a welfare check.
Yeah is true that 90%of wealth is owned by 10% but those 10% pay 90% of the taxes..

 

[shamshon]

Well you can not be more wrong in my view. More people make money because they work hard. When I came here in '97 me and my wife together had ~$700 in cash, I hardly speaked any english (you might say I still do LOL) and eight years later we both run two small businesses make 6 figures a year each, never got any help from anybody, no legacy and pretty sure never oppressed anyone just hard WORK (and somewhat lucky). Now I pay my share of taxes, I donate to charities so who's to decide that I'm paying enough, who's to decide how much money is enough for me or my kids, who's to decide how many kids that don't have HC should I sponsor (instead of their parents). The system you suggest punishes the successful and the hard working people that ..yeah make a lot of money but in the same time hire thousand and thousands of people (providing HC retirement etc) and actually comes a point when it's easier (even cheaper) for the "filthy rich" to sell everything or fire everybody and retire than pay into your "fair" system of redistributing wealth. Everyone comes here for a better life but Who's to decide when you reached a good standard of life and keep working but start paying for everybody else that can't work, doesn't want to or works cash and gets a welfare check.
Yeah is true that 90%of wealth is owned by 10% but those 10% pay 90% of the taxes..

I respect your hard work and the great journey you had with your wife; however, you also have to acknowledge that you were lucky and that you were among a very few percentage that make 6 figures in this country. Not everyone who start a business succeed and not everyone that work their ass off makes good money. I am sure you work as hard as a poor woman who works in Taco Bell but she gets 6 dollars/hour and you make 6 figures. The system allows her to live in a trailer and allows you to live in a nice house. The system denies her health care and good education for her children and allows you to enjoy your life here and send your kids to Ivy League schools. Please understand that the idea of meritocracy (i.e. work hard and you will be rewarded) is non existent in capitalist societies. It is a system based on social Darwinism or survival of the fittest. Help me understand: if a woman works 50 hours a week and makes $ 12,000 a year, and if you work the same amount of hours and make 20 times more money, would we call this justice? Again look at the big picture and acknowledge that we are privileged and lucky. The more I live in this country I find, for example, that I am more privileged than Blacks and Latinos who lived in this country for generations. I came with my educational privilege and this helped me a lot in this country. You too sounded very educated and this possibly helped you succeed. I will never deny that

 

[shamshon]

Shamshon, Interesting webpage. I can't believe so much is been expended already in that war!!!!!!!... Check also the "war rises for American taxpayers" section. I hope this war ends soon, otherwise all americans will be paying broken dishes. Although I supported always the invasion to Iraq now I feel like is time to pull out and take care of local problems, especially the economy!.

Yes! Painful stuff! It is clear these politicans have certain priorities! I still believe that this country is our best hope. Young people will not vote for some one like this idiot who has 45 % support (the worst ever for a re-elected president!)

 

[hampton8844]

As of march 27th, the war in Iraq cost $158,931,366,989
Instead, we could have paid for 21,050,536 children to attend a year of Head Start.
Instead, we could have insured 95,168,744 children for one year.

www.costofwar.com

The costs associated with the Second World War and the Cold War were much higher. But they helped bring about a safer world. Providing for the security of the country and its citizens is the first and foremost responsibility of this government. Our struggle against radical Islam is as bit as seminal (and titanic) as the fights against Nazism and Soviet Communism. This war is worth its price.

 

[hampton8844]

I have a similar story, Samoel.

No system can bring something remotely close to socioeconomic equality. Attempts to do this have only resulted in stagnation, political oppression and widespread suffering. The reality of life is that some people are going to be more successful than others. And frankly this country has more opportunities for upward mobility than the rest of the world combined.

Well you can not be more wrong in my view. More people make money because they work hard. When I came here in '97 me and my wife together had ~$700 in cash, I hardly speaked any english (you might say I still do LOL) and eight years later we both run two small businesses make 6 figures a year each, never got any help from anybody, no legacy and pretty sure never oppressed anyone just hard WORK (and somewhat lucky). Now I pay my share of taxes, I donate to charities so who's to decide that I'm paying enough, who's to decide how much money is enough for me or my kids, who's to decide how many kids that don't have HC should I sponsor (instead of their parents). The system you suggest punishes the successful and the hard working people that ..yeah make a lot of money but in the same time hire thousand and thousands of people (providing HC retirement etc) and actually comes a point when it's easier (even cheaper) for the "filthy rich" to sell everything or fire everybody and retire than pay into your "fair" system of redistributing wealth. Everyone comes here for a better life but Who's to decide when you reached a good standard of life and keep working but start paying for everybody else that can't work, doesn't want to or works cash and gets a welfare check.
Yeah is true that 90%of wealth is owned by 10% but those 10% pay 90% of the taxes..

 

[shamshon]

The costs associated with the Second World War and the Cold War were much higher. But they helped bring about a safer world. Providing for the security of the country and its citizens is the first and foremost responsibility of this government. Our struggle against radical Islam is as bit as seminal (and titanic) as the fights against Nazism and Soviet Communism. This war is worth its price.

I wish you reflect on your words before making these wrong remarks. Here is a reality check:
First: the 2 world wars did not bring safety to the world, since they were followed by nuclear arms and the Cold War. These wars led to further developments of weapons of mass destruction. Luckily the cold war ended, but only after 50 years of making everyone terrorized by it.
Second: if you want to fight radical Islam, why do not you fight the Saudi regime? Their political prostitute, Bush, is not confronting them because he is doing business with them. The Saud and the Bush families are friends and most terrorist organizations are funded by rich Saudis
Third: As much as I despise Saddam and was happy for the fall of his regime, we need to acknowledge that this man was a secular leader. He hated radical Islam more than the West did. During his regime, noone cut anyone's head-- a trademark of Islamic fascism. I hope you are not still buying the argument that there was a link between him and Al-Qaeda-- if you are, I feel sad for you.
Fourth: the war against the Iraqi was not about fighting radical Islam. Its goal was to secure oil resources. Check out the astronomic profits of oil companies as a result of this war
Fifth: the war against Iraq made radical Islam stronger. It divided the world and alienated most Europeans from America. They are not uniting now agaisnt this evil. I was watching the soccer match between America and Mexico yesterday and the Mexicans were chanting “Osama Osama.” It also created so much sympathy for the sick causes of Islamic fascists in the hearts of many young desperate Muslims. I had a hope to go back to my country one day, but Bush made it impossible for me. There are now more Islamic radicals in my country than ever before.
Peace to all

 

[samoel]

We agree on one thing LUCK other than that my friend it's obvious we believe in two different systems and we can beat the "who's the better system" subject to death and be the same dist apart where we started. I believe in individual responsibilities and the capitalistic system (survival of the fittest) as cruel as it is the one proven to work. Being born and raised in the so called socialist system where everybody is equal (read equally poor) I'm telling you doesn't work it sound good but It's a UTOPIA ....In a different note I'm happy we lasted this long without calling each other names but wait... I'm going to throw my 2cents in the war issue so.....

I respect your hard work and the great journey you had with your wife; however, you also have to acknowledge that you were lucky and that you were among a very few percentage that make 6 figures in this country. Not everyone who start a business succeed and not everyone that work their ass off makes good money. I am sure you work as hard as a poor woman who works in Taco Bell but she gets 6 dollars/hour and you make 6 figures. The system allows her to live in a trailer and allows you to live in a nice house. The system denies her health care and good education for her children and allows you to enjoy your life here and send your kids to Ivy League schools. Please understand that the idea of meritocracy (i.e. work hard and you will be rewarded) is non existent in capitalist societies. It is a system based on social Darwinism or survival of the fittest. Help me understand: if a woman works 50 hours a week and makes $ 12,000 a year, and if you work the same amount of hours and make 20 times more money, would we call this justice? Again look at the big picture and acknowledge that we are privileged and lucky. The more I live in this country I find, for example, that I am more privileged than Blacks and Latinos who lived in this country for generations. I came with my educational privilege and this helped me a lot in this country. You too sounded very educated and this possibly helped you succeed. I will never deny that

 

[TortFeasor]

I concur

I agree with your arguments and positions on (1) individual responsibility; (2) the virtues of the capitalist system and (3) limited government (mainly by preventing the "taxing to death" of those businesses and people who create jobs). The triumph of the capitalist system over the communist nutwits is phenomenal. Now can we have the triumph of capitalism and libertarianism over the religious and xenophobic nutwits?

I cannot fathom why the same people who want less regulation and governmental interference, will want to use the political process to impose their personal bias against other religious and social minorities, including undocumented persons and gays. I believe we should adopt an equal opportunity distrust and suspicion of government, specially those regimes that espouse fear and confusion in the name of national security, a la the Bush & Co. variety.

Cheerio

We agree on one thing LUCK other than that my friend it's obvious we believe in two different systems and we can beat the "who's the better system" subject to death and be the same dist apart where we started. I believe in individual responsibilities and the capitalistic system (survival of the fittest) as cruel as it is the one proven to work. Being born and raised in the so called socialist system where everybody is equal (read equally poor) I'm telling you doesn't work it sound good but It's a UTOPIA ....In a different note I'm happy we lasted this long without calling each other names but wait... I'm going to throw my 2cents in the war issue so.....

 

[shamshon]

I agree with your arguments and positions on (1) individual responsibility; (2) the virtues of the capitalist system and (3) limited government (mainly by preventing the "taxing to death" of those businesses and people who create jobs). The triumph of the capitalist system over the communist nutwits is phenomenal. Now can we have the triumph of capitalism and libertarianism over the religious and xenophobic nutwits?

I cannot fathom why the same people who want less regulation and governmental interference, will want to use the political process to impose their personal bias against other religious and social minorities, including undocumented persons and gays. I believe we should adopt an equal opportunity distrust and suspicion of government, specially those regimes that espouse fear and confusion in the name of national security, a la the Bush & Co. variety.

Cheerio

I am not against Capitalism, but I want it to be disciplined. It frustrates me that when people want social justice, they are immediately accused of espousing communist views. The problem is not black or white. Canada is a capitalist country but with a great discipline- more social justice. Communism is an idea that was never achieved because of natural human greed and evil. Most of the so called communist countries had social classes and had people who were filthy rich as well, but at least they had free health care, no homelessness, free education, and nice pensions. They had a recent poll in East Germany and found that 20 % of them wanted the Berlin wall back! Many of these were not happy with social Darwinism. I strong recommend you watching "Good bye Linen"

 

[Arizona_Poet]

Has anybody read that famous book of the late 90's called, "The Third Way" by Anthony Giddens?? I heard that the book tries to explain why capitalism has failed lately and why capitalism and socialism are always into extremes and the ideal path is something in between but with mroe emphasis in socialism.... I think he's british...any comments???

 

[shamshon]

Has anybody read that famous book of the late 90's called, "The Third Way" by Anthony Giddens?? I heard that the book tries to explain why capitalism has failed lately and why capitalism and socialism are always into extremes and the ideal path is something in between but with mroe emphasis in socialism.... I think he's british...any comments???

That is exactly the point. What we have now is a vicious form of human greed and sick exploitations of resources. I will look for that book to use in the class I teach!

 

[TheRealCanadian]

Canada is a capitalist country but with a great discipline- more social justice.

Social justice? My mother-in-law waits a year for a knee replacement while the Minister of Health gets surgery in a week. 40% of the population cannot find a family doctor. I couldn't find a doctor until I did what Soviet citizens used to do - invoke the name of a relative in the nomeklatura, namely my sister. At that point, bang!

You have MDs and PhDs from all over the world driving cabs and slaving away because they cannot find work. Most of us who can do something productive are taxed to death in favor of unproductive citizens or corporations with political connections.

at least they had free health care, no homelessness, free education, and nice pensions.

You had free health care. Canada has it too. It's free, but you wait for months in order to get it.

There's was no homelessness, because they either locked you up or you had parents, grandparents and married children sharing an apartment. In Toronto you have vagrants all through downtown.

You had nice pensions, but you couldn't buy anything with them because the store shelves were always empty.

Many of these were not happy with social Darwinism. I strong recommend you watching "Good bye Linen"

If you raise a child whose parents do everything for him, independence will be a terrifying concept.