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so what do you thing guys,if this is succesful does the dv2020 benefits in fiscal year 2021,who can interpretate accuratly
 

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Please I need thorough explanation on this @Britsimon @SusieQQQ @Sm1smom

Meng’s measure would allow unused fiscal year 2020 family-based, employment-based, and diversity visas to remain available in fiscal year 2021, and to allow unused fiscal year 2021 visas to remain available in fiscal year 2022.
 
Ellen 94 said:
Please I need thorough explanation on this @Britsimon @SusieQQQ @Sm1smom

Meng’s measure would allow unused fiscal year 2020 family-based, employment-based, and diversity visas to remain available in fiscal year 2021, and to allow unused fiscal year 2021 visas to remain available in fiscal year 2022.
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Did you read the last page or two? Both britsimon and I already commented.
 
I found the text of the bill here: https://rules.house.gov/sites/democrats.rules.house.gov/files/BILLS-116HR7617-RCP116-60.pdf

Here's the gist of it:

SEC. 413. (a) For fiscal years 2021 and 2022, the worldwide level of ... diversity immigrants ... shall each be increased by the number computed under subsection (b) of this section

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(b) For each of the worldwide levels described in sub-section (a) of this section, the number computed under this subsection is the difference (if any) between the worldwide level established for the previous fiscal year ... and the number of visas that were, during the previous fiscal year, issued and used...
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So it literally just says that unused visas are carried over, but as Britsimon said, not cases, unfortunately.
 
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coffeemonster said:
I found the text of the bill here: https://rules.house.gov/sites/democrats.rules.house.gov/files/BILLS-116HR7617-RCP116-60.pdf

Here's the gist of it:



So it literally just says that unused visas are carried over, but as Britsimon said, not cases, unfortunately.
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What is use of an enrolled visa if the winner cannot process it. The family based visa will be giving to the same person to prevent him from starting all over. Its the same way the dv visa will be enrolled over to the same person. Simple logic!
 
Bry't said:
Wjat

What is use of an enrolled visa if the winner cannot process it. The family based visa will be giving to the same person to prevent him from starting all over. Its the same way the dv visa will be enrolled over to the same person. Simple logic!
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I like your logic :)
 
coffeemonster said:
I found the text of the bill here: https://rules.house.gov/sites/democrats.rules.house.gov/files/BILLS-116HR7617-RCP116-60.pdf

Here's the gist of it:



So it literally just says that unused visas are carried over, but as Britsimon said, not cases, unfortunately.
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So a person that had applied for family based visa and his visa issuance is blocked by current ban ,his visa allocation would go to someone new that has just started application what a nonsense people are talking
 
eu47zzz said:
So a person that had applied for family based visa and his visa issuance is blocked by current ban ,his visa allocation would go to someone new that has just started application what a nonsense people are talking
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I don't know, I thought it was only the diversity visas that have cases tied to a specific FY. IOW, the vias issuance is always tied to FY, but in the case of DV, the applicant's eligibility is also tied to the FY.

I could be wrong though.
 
coffeemonster said:
I don't know, I thought it was only the diversity visas that have cases tied to a specific FY. IOW, the vias issuance is always tied to FY, but in the case of DV, the applicant's eligibility is also tied to the FY.

I could be wrong though.
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We need a proffesional interpretation because this is new information and we dont have much knowledge in interpretation of laws,as much as someone may be sure about what is saying in this forum we all depend on the accurate information as for knowledge we have been through 14 months now with this lottery program and nobody can give us undisputed lessons like they did in the beggining when we were selected.
 
eu47zzz said:
We need a proffesional interpretation because this is new information and we dont have much knowledge in interpretation of laws,as much as someone may be sure about what is saying in this forum we all depend on the accurate information as for knowledge we have been through 14 months now with this lottery program and nobody can give us undisputed lessons like they did in the beggining when we were selected.
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Have you considered paying a professional? If you need a professional interpretation of what you’re reading since no one here can give you undisputed lessons anymore like they did in the past, that is what you’ll need to do IMO.
 
Information is coming out in piecemeal all over the place, there is currently no official announcement or new law or announcement or new law about this whole disastrous DV 2020 year, yet some of you are expecting to see or read of a clear cut interpretation or meaning. How is that supposed to be possible? Gosh! This is precisely why I’ve stayed off this thread for a while.
 
eu47zzz said:
We need a proffesional interpretation because this is new information and we dont have much knowledge in interpretation of laws,as much as someone may be sure about what is saying in this forum we all depend on the accurate information as for knowledge we have been through 14 months now with this lottery program and nobody can give us undisputed lessons like they did in the beggining when we were selected.
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I saw same words in HR 6800, am I right?
 
Sm1smom said:
Information is coming out in piecemeal all over the place, there is currently no official announcement or new law or announcement or new law about this whole disastrous DV 2020 year, yet some of you are expecting to see or read of a clear cut interpretation or meaning. How is that supposed to be possible? Gosh! This is precisely why I’ve stayed off this thread for a while.
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Yeah the demands for professional interpretation and thorough explanations are quite something, you’d think we were paid lawyers not unpaid volunteers!
 
eu47zzz said:
We need a proffesional interpretation because this is new information and we dont have much knowledge in interpretation of laws,as much as someone may be sure about what is saying in this forum we all depend on the accurate information as for knowledge we have been through 14 months now with this lottery program and nobody can give us undisputed lessons like they did in the beggining when we were selected.
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OMG. Feel free to get someone else to explain. But again. This is not a law. It's just a suggestion. But feel free to pay a lawyer to tell you that too.
 
Britsimon said:
OMG. Feel free to get someone else to explain. But again. This is not a law. It's just a suggestion. But feel free to pay a lawyer to tell you that too.
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I must say I envy you Brit and the other two ladies that replied me ,It must be such a great feeling having the green card in the pocket and giving free lessons or thoughts ,Its something that I’ll never know how it feels ,From my experience in life I know that when you achieve something big in life eventhough by luck ,people tend to become more philosophers and think they know more than anybody,You didnt experience dv2020 in our boots so you’ll never know how would you become ,I doubt that you would stay calm like ice and not halucinate about a tiny little spark of hope on every corner,Greetings from a 26 years old european young man with master degree and fluent in 4 languages.
 
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