That is unfair. What do you think?

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asylee03

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I've been granted an asylum Oct,97 and i applied for a green card Oct,98 but i have not got the card until March 04 "back dated one year". I saw many refugees came to US and they got their cards very fast and the thing just cought my attention the USCIS considers the date they entered the US is the "resident date" for example, if a refugee entered the US 01/01/2008, the resident date will show on his/her card will be 01/01/2008
 
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Why is it unfair? Regular EB GC applicants often have to wait 3+ years for their application to be processed and they don't get any backdating. Its all water under the bridge for you, so sit back, relax, and hope your case sails through namecheck without getting hung up.
 
They don't get backdating becasue the date entered the US = the resident date, for asylees, they get one year backdating
 
asylee03 said:
They don't get backdating becasue the date entered the US = the resident date, for asylees, they get one year backdating
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I think what boatbod was trying to say, you might want to compare your case to most of the EB GC applicants. Many of them has Masters degree (or PhD), and we know they will contribute in the US. Somehow, they have to wait at least 5 years before they can submit their N400 application. And some of them have to deal with the name check process, etc.
 
It is not about fairness - it is the law. As asylees, we decided to come into this country and claim asylum without the government's permission or admission. Therefore, asylee cases are processed here and they are admitted into the USA only after they are approved asylee status. The backdating of the one year is to compensate asylees for the one year period they had to wait before filing for the greencard.

Refugees on the other hand have waited numerous years outside the USA while their applications were processed and they underwent interviews, medicals, and background checks. They are residents the moment they enter the USA because they come with a resident visa.

As a former asylee, I will say the law is fair. And I am grateful and thankful to even be in this amazing country. So what if I have to wait a few more years for my citizenship? I'd rather be waiting here and for this country's citizenship than be in my former country.
 
LolaLi,

Refugees they don't come with a resident visa they come with a refugee status only. The have to apply for a Resident Visa " adjust their status I-485" one year after they enter the US same as Asylee who can apply for a Resident Visa "Adjust his status one year after he granted asylum"
 
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Nimche,

I am sorry to hear that went through tough time and i hope your wife will join you soon. But, it is not personal and i am not against the laws but that does not maen every law makes sense. I have alot of friends now stay inline and waiting to be accepted as refugees in the US and they're wiling to wait more in order to achieve that. ALSO IT IS NOT FAIR FOR LPR TO WAIT 5 YEARS TO BRING HIS WIFE why LPR can't bring his wife right a way

Let me ask you question

Do you think it is fair for LPR to wait 5 years to bring his wife? why he can't just fill out the I-130 and the requirements as long he paid taxes every year why not?

I know it is rules "but some times the rules don't make sense"

Just doesn't make sense


Peace
 
asylee03 said:
LolaLi,

Refugees they don't come with a resident visa they come with a refugee status only. The have to apply for a Resident Visa " adjust their status I-485" one year after they enter the US same as Asylee who can apply for a Resident Visa "Adjust his status one year after he granted asylum"
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As a technicality - yes that is true - but according to the law, refugees enter the country as PRs that have a valid immigrant visa. This is the reason why they get their time adjusted back to when they first entered the country. Applying one year after coming for the green card is just an 'insurance policy' the law makers put in there to ensure refugees gain residence before applying. Read the INA act and you will see what I mean. It clearly states why there is a difference between asylees and refugees.
 
I disagree with you. They apply for A VISA NUMBER I-485 " after one year they entered the country. When they enter the US in the first time, they enter with a refugee status "i saw that in their I-94"
when you say a visa number, that means State Deprtament issued the visa number "USCIS does not issued the immigrants visas". For example, an Asylee or a refugee when he/she filed the I-485 and after the approval, the USCIS puts his/her name for visa number availablity from the State Department. At the end, the Refugee goes under the same procedure as the Asylee"both they have to file the same form, do fp, medical check, and etc.."although the refugee had already gone through these steps from outside
 
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stupid argument and ungrateful attitude.

You got your card? Yes?... then stop worrying about someone else, what they got or didn't get.... give me a break!

You want to talk unfair... look at the poor bastards now who have come here legally, and talented, contributing (not making light of asylees) but they are have played by the rules and may not see a GC for 10 years if ever.

Yes let's talk about fairness... that's life...it ain't fair....whatever in the world "fair" means... get on with your life and be thankful you got a green card and got admittance into one of the greatest countries in the world and are not like your compatriots living in whatever hell hole you came from that you needed asylum to get here.
 
What if you were denied asylum in 1997 and sent packing to your COP? Be grateful for what has been granted to you so far.

asylee03 said:
I've been granted an asylum Oct,97 and i applied for a green card Oct,98 but i have not got the card until March 04 "back dated one year". I saw many refugees came to US and they got their cards very fast and the thing just cought my attention the USCIS considers the date they entered the US is the "resident date" for example, if a refugee entered the US 01/01/2008, the resident date will show on his/her card will be 01/01/2008
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This discussion is amusing.

There are a lot of Americans who have been Americans for generations who feel that immigrants these days have it easy and everything is handed to them on a plate unlike their forefathers who had to really work hard to eventually become Americans.

So everyone thinks they had it tough and others had it easy :D
 
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This discussion is amusing.

There are a lot of Americans who have been Americans for generations who feel that immigrants these days have it easy and everything is handed to them on a plate unlike their forefathers who had to really work hard to eventually become Americans.

So everyone thinks they had it tough and others had it easy :D
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What about all the Americans who are descendants of recent immigrants, but still pull that "go back to your own country" crap? I'm sure we've all had encounters with individuals like that. How quickly people forget that only a couple of generations ago, their grandparents or great-grandparents were stepping off the boat on Ellis Island.
 
But not for my husband. My husband think he is lucky he was born in this country and doesn't have to go through a lot of stuff like I do. Still he thinks something wrong with the law and by the way he doesn't know the different between refuge and asylee beside the way they come to this country.
 
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This calls either envy or jealousy, but not unfair :p

nevermind.
 
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Where are all you guy/gals getting green cards through asylum from? Which country? What is/are the reasons you seek asylum here? Why not austria(nimche)? Why only here? Why not neighboring countries or countries close to?
I wonder if it is because of economic reasons? possibly?
any green card lotto winners? Some would say that is not fair.
Asylees. how long do you have to wait outside us before you are allowed in?
 
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I waited 0 day outside and I came on an F-1 student visa. Thanks god i achieved my goals by obtaining the BA and MS from the US universities. By the way, i am grateful and lucky to be here. When i rasied the question, it was not personal but i think alot of poeple in this board took it personally. Instead of discussing the issues, the people attacked and insulted me personally, people need to learn from America not just getting the green card and citizenship. I wish the best luck for all as always!

Peace
 
asylee03 said:
I've been granted an asylum Oct,97 and i applied for a green card Oct,98 but i have not got the card until March 04 "back dated one year". I saw many refugees came to US and they got their cards very fast and the thing just cought my attention the USCIS considers the date they entered the US is the "resident date" for example, if a refugee entered the US 01/01/2008, the resident date will show on his/her card will be 01/01/2008
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What is this then?
If you did not wait outside us what are you complaining about?
You came on F-1 visa and then became an asylee? How does that work?
I have complains about green card lotto winners? what has luck got to do to get a green card?
 
asylee03 said:
I've been granted an asylum Oct,97 and i applied for a green card Oct,98 but i have not got the card until March 04 "back dated one year". I saw many refugees came to US and they got their cards very fast and the thing just cought my attention the USCIS considers the date they entered the US is the "resident date" for example, if a refugee entered the US 01/01/2008, the resident date will show on his/her card will be 01/01/2008
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asylee03 said:
I waited 0 day outside and I came on an F-1 student visa. Thanks god i achieved my goals by obtaining the BA and MS from the US universities. By the way, i am grateful and lucky to be here. When i rasied the question, it was not personal but i think alot of poeple in this board took it personally. Instead of discussing the issues, the people attacked and insulted me personally, people need to learn from America not just getting the green card and citizenship. I wish the best luck for all as always!

Peace
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Well, I am deeply sorry that you feel you're being attacked. I am glad that you went to school and got not only a BA but also a MS degree. Good for you. hmmm.. I like to discuss them though.
I am under impression that you got your GC in March 04, correct? Most US public universities require the proof of residency in order to pay in-state tuition. So... between Oct 97 to March 04, did you pay out of state tuition? Or did you go to private university? If the answer to either questions is yes, then I assume your family is pretty rich. Must be good to be you.
Now, if you got scholarship or was able to pay in-state tuition, then here comes my question. Is it fair that ... maybe someone who's US Citizen or a GC holder should get that money? And because of you, that person might not be able to obtain education and end up ... let's say... working two or three jobs to pay family bills?

Please keep in mind, that some of us have to go through tough times in life, so we appreciate what we have in this great country.
Fair? You cannot handle the fair.... ughhh... it might be Truth. oh well, what do I know? I am just a small people that still awe being in this great country.

Here is a quote for ya:

Be a good listener. Your ears will never get you in trouble.
"Frank Tyger"
 
The Asylees are eligible to apply for financial aid "federal and state grant" I did not pay out of state fees at all. In the graduate school i was offered scholarship and it helped me alot besides the fulltime job i maintained. Both the BA and MS obtained from the state university "public"
 
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