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San Francisco Regional DOL Tracker - Old (Archived on 09/23/2004)
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tonysharma
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no, coz ITIN is only for tax ..........and in california they have stoped giving ITIN cards also .....so best bet whd be going to ssn office and getting letter for dmv ..........
dkgdkg said:Will ITIN (Individual Tax ID) be helpful for this ?
Every one knows that Law says Non-Immigrant's Dependent are not eligible to apply for SSN.
Regards,
Karthi.
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BS+zero
My RIR is BS + 0 as well although I have MS. We I filed the RIR the lawyer told me it was a common practice. I don't think DOL is auto remanding any more, but most likely BS + 0 would get the 3-option letter. Then, when you re-do the Ad, you can add a little bit experience to the requirement. Assuming you still fit the requirement. But I've heard that changing requirement could make DOL to ask more questions.
Any body got their BS + 0 processed by DOL recently? Please share the experience. Thanks!
My RIR is BS + 0 as well although I have MS. We I filed the RIR the lawyer told me it was a common practice. I don't think DOL is auto remanding any more, but most likely BS + 0 would get the 3-option letter. Then, when you re-do the Ad, you can add a little bit experience to the requirement. Assuming you still fit the requirement. But I've heard that changing requirement could make DOL to ask more questions.
Any body got their BS + 0 processed by DOL recently? Please share the experience. Thanks!
mukulseth said:I was wondering that whether:
DOL is considering RIR BS+zero cases? Or are they auto remanding the BS+zero to state where they get in the Non-RIR queue.
Any help/insights would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Mukul
I didn't know that California stopped issuing ITIN.tonysharma said:no, coz ITIN is only for tax ..........and in california they have stoped giving ITIN cards also .....so best bet whd be going to ssn office and getting letter for dmv ..........
I just read in www.dmv.ca.gov:
Exception to the SSN requirement:
If you are legally present in the US, but ineligible for an SSN, you are exempt from SSN requirements. However, you must still provide an acceptable birth date/legal presence document for any DL/ID card application OR provide a valid SSN.
Regards,
Karthi.
You can find this information at http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/dl_info.htm#SSN
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tonysharma
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i said ITIN card not number ........... if she had a joint returned (tax) so far with you she shd have ITIN number......otherwise she will have one when you both are going to do it as married cpl or she can drive in US on international driving permit if your car ins company agrees to it , till she gets US DP
dkgdkg said:I didn't know that California stopped issuing ITIN.
I just read in www.dmv.ca.gov:
Exception to the SSN requirement:
If you are legally present in the US, but ineligible for an SSN, you are exempt from SSN requirements. However, you must still provide an acceptable birth date/legal presence document for any DL/ID card application OR provide a valid SSN.
Regards,
Karthi.
You can find this information at http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/dl_info.htm#SSN
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According to DMV required document list, ITIN Card number is not required for getting DL.tonysharma said:i said ITIN card not number ........... if she had a joint returned (tax) so far with you she shd have ITIN number......otherwise she will have one when you both are going to do it as married cpl or she can drive in US on international driving permit if your car ins company agrees to it , till she gets US DP
According to DMV site, following 2 documents will be more than enough:
Notice of Action (I-797 Approved Petition) for your wife.
Attach a copy of your I-797.
Valid foreign passport with a valid Record of Arrival/Departure (form I-94).
Take a printout of that web-page and talk to DMV and get more clarification.
If you have applied for H4 (Extension) through your employer, there should be an Notice of Action (I-797) and new I-94 with new dates for your wife.
If you have applied for H4 visa in India, then you may not have I-797, but you should have a I-94.
Regards,
Karthi.
What does AVM says about your cases ? Looks like most of Jan 21 & 22 cases have been processed / certified.
gc_baba said:Hello Guys,
My DOL RD is 01/21/2003 and I am little worried because last week they were processing cases received on this day. Does any one have any clue, what is going on at SF DOL?
praveen
risudoch said:Guys,
Long time reader, first time message sender.
I am currently under H1 visa.
Has anybody's dependents (H4) recently applied
for a driver's license in CA. DMV is requiring for a
SSN before giving out behind the wheel driving exams.
Is anybody out there on the same boat? What is
the solution to this problem ? Is there anyway
to get a SSN for H4 visa for driver license's purpose.
Desperately need my wife to be able to drive kids to school
and therefore have a license.
Hi there, I am an H4, and just renewed my license in the Sacramento area, and it was a nightmare.
You do NOT need a SSN to get a CA DL, contrary to what the zombies behind the counter think. All you need is your I-94 (usually in your passport), and your I-797.
DMV has a new online system/procedure to verify SSNs, but it seems they did not train their employees very well. The clerk should be able to check with SSN that your wife is not eligible for a number, then the DMV clerk should be able to issue a 60-day temp license, pending residency verification. If they give you some excuse that "the system won't let him/her", tell them that they should be able to verify this online.
Next step, call for the office supervisor, and explain that according to their own rules and regulations, Article 2, Section 15.03, "the department shall issue a temporary driver license valid for up to 60 days provided there is no other cause for refusal pending verification of documents submitted as proof of legal residence"...
I ended up talking to their head office and setting a few fires, and got my permanent license about three days later.
I found that the employees at the toll free number were very helpful, and also the people at the customer complaints line. Unfortunately, I don't have the numbers with me here, if you need them, let me know and I will post them later on.
Good luck!
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csrini1 said:Why r u guys even discussing DL issuues here in CA DOL thread.
please stop. If you are that interested, create a new thread.
Agree with you. One or two posts are fine, but there are too many. People in this thread are worried by the long long LC process.
DOL Semiannual Regulatory Agenda
Here are some info of DOL regulatory agenda related to the labour cert. It seems that DOL set the publishing date of PERM final regulation at sometime in July 2004.
Semiannual Regulatory Agenda
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR (DOL)
SUMMARY: This document sets forth the Department's semiannual agenda of
regulations that have been selected for review or development during
the coming year. The Department's agencies have carefully assessed
their available resources and what they can accomplish in the next
twelve months and have adjusted their agendas accordingly........(cut, too much)
1936. LABOR CERTIFICATION PROCESS FOR THE PERMANENT EMPLOYMENT OF ALIENS
IN THE UNITED STATES
Priority: Other Significant
Legal Authority: 29 USC 49 et seq; 8 USC 1182(a)(5)(A), 1189(p)(1)
CFR Citation: 20 CFR 656
Legal Deadline: None
Abstract: The Employment and Training Administration (ETA) is in the
process of reengineering the permanent labor certification process.
ETA's goals are to make fundamental changes and refinements that will
streamline the process, save resources, improve the effectiveness of
the program and better serve the Department of Labor's (DOL) customer.
Statement of Need: The labor certification process has been described
as being complicated, costly and time consuming. Due to the increases
in the volume of applications received and a lack of adequate
resources, it can take up to 2 years or more to complete processing an
application. The process also requires substantial State and Federal
resources to administer and is reportedly costly and burdensome to
employers as well. Cuts in Federal funding for both the permanent labor
certification program and the U.S. Employment Service have made it
difficult for State and Federal administrators to keep up with the
[[Page 37806]]
process. ETA, therefore, is taking steps to improve effectiveness of
the various regulatory requirements and the application processing
procedures, with a view to achieving savings in resources both for the
Government and employers, without diminishing protections now afforded
U.S. workers by the current regulatory and administrative requirements.
Summary of Legal Basis: Promulgation of these regulations is authorized
by section 212(a)(5)(A) of the Immigration and Nationality Act.
Alternatives: Regulatory alternatives are now being developed by the
Department. The public was afforded an opportunity to comment on the
Department's plans for streamlining the permanent labor certification
process in a notice of proposed rulemaking which was published in the
Federal Register on May 6, 2002.
Anticipated Cost and Benefits: Preliminary estimates of the anticipated
costs and benefits have not been determined at this time. Preliminary
estimates will be developed after a decision is made as to what
regulatory amendments are necessary and after the implementing forms
and automated systems to support a streamlined permanent labor
certification process have been developed.
Risks: This action does not affect public health, safety, or the
environment.
Timetable:
________________________________________________________________________
Action Date FR Cite
________________________________________________________________________
NPRM 05/06/02 67 FR 30465
NPRM Comment Period End 07/05/02 67 FR 30466
Final Action 07/00/04
Regulatory Flexibility Analysis Required: Undetermined
Government Levels Affected: Federal, State
Agency Contact: William L. Carlson, Chief, Division of Foreign Labor
Certification, Department of Labor, Employment and Training
Administration, 200 Constitution Avenue NW., Room C4318 FP Building,
Washington, DC 20210
Phone: 202 693-3989
Fax: 202 693-2760
Email: carlson.william@dol.gov
RIN: 1205-AA66
_______________________________________________________________________
1937. [bullet][ls-thn-eq] LABOR CERTIFICATION FOR THE PERMANENT
EMPLOYMENT OF ALIENS IN THE UNITED STATES; BACKLOG REDUCTION
Priority: Other Significant. Major status under 5 USC 801 is
undetermined.
Legal Authority: 8 USC 1182(a)(5)A)
CFR Citation: 20 CFR 656
Legal Deadline: None
Abstract: Seeks comment on a proposed amendment to the regulations
governing labor certification applications for the permanent employment
of aliens in the United States. To reduce an existing backlog in
pending applications for permanent employment certification, the
amendment would allow that National Certifying Officer to transfer to a
centralized ETA processing center(s) applications that are awaiting
processing by State Workforce Agencies (SWA's) or ETA Regional Offices
or ETA regional offices.
Timetable:
________________________________________________________________________
Action Date FR Cite
________________________________________________________________________
Interim Final Rule 07/00/04
Regulatory Flexibility Analysis Required: No
Small Entities Affected: No
Government Levels Affected: None
Agency Contact: William L. Carlson, Chief, Division of Foreign Labor
Certification, Department of Labor, Employment and Training
Administration, 200 Constitution Avenue NW., Room C4318 FP Building,
Washington, DC 20210
Phone: 202 693-3989
Fax: 202 693-2760
Email: carlson.william@dol.gov
RIN: 1205-AB37
Here are some info of DOL regulatory agenda related to the labour cert. It seems that DOL set the publishing date of PERM final regulation at sometime in July 2004.
Semiannual Regulatory Agenda
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR (DOL)
SUMMARY: This document sets forth the Department's semiannual agenda of
regulations that have been selected for review or development during
the coming year. The Department's agencies have carefully assessed
their available resources and what they can accomplish in the next
twelve months and have adjusted their agendas accordingly........(cut, too much)
1936. LABOR CERTIFICATION PROCESS FOR THE PERMANENT EMPLOYMENT OF ALIENS
IN THE UNITED STATES
Priority: Other Significant
Legal Authority: 29 USC 49 et seq; 8 USC 1182(a)(5)(A), 1189(p)(1)
CFR Citation: 20 CFR 656
Legal Deadline: None
Abstract: The Employment and Training Administration (ETA) is in the
process of reengineering the permanent labor certification process.
ETA's goals are to make fundamental changes and refinements that will
streamline the process, save resources, improve the effectiveness of
the program and better serve the Department of Labor's (DOL) customer.
Statement of Need: The labor certification process has been described
as being complicated, costly and time consuming. Due to the increases
in the volume of applications received and a lack of adequate
resources, it can take up to 2 years or more to complete processing an
application. The process also requires substantial State and Federal
resources to administer and is reportedly costly and burdensome to
employers as well. Cuts in Federal funding for both the permanent labor
certification program and the U.S. Employment Service have made it
difficult for State and Federal administrators to keep up with the
[[Page 37806]]
process. ETA, therefore, is taking steps to improve effectiveness of
the various regulatory requirements and the application processing
procedures, with a view to achieving savings in resources both for the
Government and employers, without diminishing protections now afforded
U.S. workers by the current regulatory and administrative requirements.
Summary of Legal Basis: Promulgation of these regulations is authorized
by section 212(a)(5)(A) of the Immigration and Nationality Act.
Alternatives: Regulatory alternatives are now being developed by the
Department. The public was afforded an opportunity to comment on the
Department's plans for streamlining the permanent labor certification
process in a notice of proposed rulemaking which was published in the
Federal Register on May 6, 2002.
Anticipated Cost and Benefits: Preliminary estimates of the anticipated
costs and benefits have not been determined at this time. Preliminary
estimates will be developed after a decision is made as to what
regulatory amendments are necessary and after the implementing forms
and automated systems to support a streamlined permanent labor
certification process have been developed.
Risks: This action does not affect public health, safety, or the
environment.
Timetable:
________________________________________________________________________
Action Date FR Cite
________________________________________________________________________
NPRM 05/06/02 67 FR 30465
NPRM Comment Period End 07/05/02 67 FR 30466
Final Action 07/00/04
Regulatory Flexibility Analysis Required: Undetermined
Government Levels Affected: Federal, State
Agency Contact: William L. Carlson, Chief, Division of Foreign Labor
Certification, Department of Labor, Employment and Training
Administration, 200 Constitution Avenue NW., Room C4318 FP Building,
Washington, DC 20210
Phone: 202 693-3989
Fax: 202 693-2760
Email: carlson.william@dol.gov
RIN: 1205-AA66
_______________________________________________________________________
1937. [bullet][ls-thn-eq] LABOR CERTIFICATION FOR THE PERMANENT
EMPLOYMENT OF ALIENS IN THE UNITED STATES; BACKLOG REDUCTION
Priority: Other Significant. Major status under 5 USC 801 is
undetermined.
Legal Authority: 8 USC 1182(a)(5)A)
CFR Citation: 20 CFR 656
Legal Deadline: None
Abstract: Seeks comment on a proposed amendment to the regulations
governing labor certification applications for the permanent employment
of aliens in the United States. To reduce an existing backlog in
pending applications for permanent employment certification, the
amendment would allow that National Certifying Officer to transfer to a
centralized ETA processing center(s) applications that are awaiting
processing by State Workforce Agencies (SWA's) or ETA Regional Offices
or ETA regional offices.
Timetable:
________________________________________________________________________
Action Date FR Cite
________________________________________________________________________
Interim Final Rule 07/00/04
Regulatory Flexibility Analysis Required: No
Small Entities Affected: No
Government Levels Affected: None
Agency Contact: William L. Carlson, Chief, Division of Foreign Labor
Certification, Department of Labor, Employment and Training
Administration, 200 Constitution Avenue NW., Room C4318 FP Building,
Washington, DC 20210
Phone: 202 693-3989
Fax: 202 693-2760
Email: carlson.william@dol.gov
RIN: 1205-AB37
What does AVM says about your cases ? Looks like most of Jan 21 & 22 cases have been processed / certified.
Quote:
Originally Posted by gc_baba
Hello Guys,
My DOL RD is 01/21/2003 and I am little worried because last week they were processing cases received on this day. Does any one have any clue, what is going on at SF DOL?
praveen
__________________
Trying to be Optimist !
PD : 09/24/2002
RD : 08/14/2003
DOT Code : 999.172-072
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Still says Received. One good thing is AVM got updated yesterday also. May be they will do it today.
Quote:
Originally Posted by gc_baba
Hello Guys,
My DOL RD is 01/21/2003 and I am little worried because last week they were processing cases received on this day. Does any one have any clue, what is going on at SF DOL?
praveen
__________________
Trying to be Optimist !
PD : 09/24/2002
RD : 08/14/2003
DOT Code : 999.172-072
----------------------------------------------
Still says Received. One good thing is AVM got updated yesterday also. May be they will do it today.
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Gap between H1bs
I had a three month gap between two employers.
e.g.
I left emplyer A in Dec 2000. I was told by employer B my h1B transfer had been submitted to INS. I started right away with employer B. Three month later (March 2001), I was told by employer B's HR they forget to file it. So the transfer was not filed three months after I worked for employer B and it was later approved.
Question:
Would this gap cause any problem in the GC filing? What can I do to mitigate it?
I had a three month gap between two employers.
e.g.
I left emplyer A in Dec 2000. I was told by employer B my h1B transfer had been submitted to INS. I started right away with employer B. Three month later (March 2001), I was told by employer B's HR they forget to file it. So the transfer was not filed three months after I worked for employer B and it was later approved.
Question:
Would this gap cause any problem in the GC filing? What can I do to mitigate it?
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Did Employer "A" cancelled your original H1 in Dec 2000 only ?? You are legal by status if one of the Visa was valid that time (or applied for transfer)... & as you said your H1 with "B" was approved means in eyes of USCIS(INS) you ware legal !!!
Hamilton said:I had a three month gap between two employers.
e.g.
I left emplyer A in Dec 2000. I was told by employer B my h1B transfer had been submitted to INS. I started right away with employer B. Three month later (March 2001), I was told by employer B's HR they forget to file it. So the transfer was not filed three months after I worked for employer B and it was later approved.
Question:
Would this gap cause any problem in the GC filing? What can I do to mitigate it?
Went to SSA today in Manteca, CA and was told that they don't issue any type of letter for DMV and mentioned that DMV should know this,
SSA also share the same database with DMV. Went back to DMV and they stood their ground, no SSN - no DL application. It is a chicken and egg thing.
SSA also share the same database with DMV. Went back to DMV and they stood their ground, no SSN - no DL application. It is a chicken and egg thing.
gp111 said:go to Social Security Administration office, they will issue a letter to DMV that you wife cannot get a SSN.. use this letter to get the DL..
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/dl_info.htm#SSN
<quote>
Exception to the SSN requirement:
If you are legally present in the US, but ineligible for an SSN, you are exempt from SSN requirements. However, you must still provide an acceptable birth date/legal presence document for any DL/ID card application OR provide a valid SSN.
</quote>
Print this page and show them, hopefully they will accept.
<quote>
Exception to the SSN requirement:
If you are legally present in the US, but ineligible for an SSN, you are exempt from SSN requirements. However, you must still provide an acceptable birth date/legal presence document for any DL/ID card application OR provide a valid SSN.
</quote>
Print this page and show them, hopefully they will accept.
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