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eager_immi said:
What is wrong with this article!!! There is nothing wrong if someone analyzes the future of India's outsourcing practice.
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i can excuse you if you have been out of india since 5 years....and never seen the indian educated population...

the top paragraph is from chain jokes passed around in emails....those are not from real life....

it says india needs 150,000 people every year for call center.....and they cant find them....

people poor in statastics...are excused if they think that it is hard to find 500,000 college eduacated bachelors from big cities with good english...(karnataka alone produces close to 25k engineers per year)...

india is the last place to be facing shortage of skills.......sadly we will also be a place with high unemployment because its almost impossible to grow the economy so much...

compare the GDP of USA with india.....and then compare the population.....you will know why india will always have a surplus manpower...
 
techy2468 said:
i can excuse you if you have been out of india since 5 years....and never seen the indian educated population...

the top paragraph is from chain jokes passed around in emails....those are not from real life....

it says india needs 150,000 people every year for call center.....and they cant find them....

people poor in statastics...are excused if they think that it is hard to find 500,000 college eduacated bachelors from big cities with good english...(karnataka alone produces close to 25k engineers per year)...

india is the last place to be facing shortage of skills.......sadly we will also be a place with high unemployment because its almost impossible to grow the economy so much...

compare the GDP of USA with india.....and then compare the population.....you will know why india will always have a surplus manpower...
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well said techy2468. u r 100% correct.
 
With the s.1932 out of the picture. I dont see any future bills that will help the eb2 retrogression. All the proposed bills i see are trying to improve the eb3 numbers as nurses/other form a part of that category.

Please let me know if what i have stated is wrong?
 
Firstly, you are no one to excuse me or not to excuse me. There is something called freedom of speech and I do think the person in the article has a point. I am not trying to mock at the part where they are ridiculing our ability to master the English language. There are a lot of Indians, I know who have impeccable grammar, but if you view some of the billboards in India you know what they mean by bad language skills. My next point is that not every Indian today wants to work at call centers. Indians in India too have realized there are better jobs available to them. BTW since you claim there are so many opportunities, what are you doing here? I hate making arrogant remarks about a simple article. If you have to make any remarks then talk about Lou Dobbs?
 
Duh!

pd2002March said:
well said techy2468. u r 100% correct.
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pd2002March, techy2468, gth999 - You guys saw half glass full

eager_immi - You saw half glass empty

What a big deal? Let's focus on our future. :)
 
i am glad you liked that article....maybe you are the intended audience...

***BTW since you claim there are so many opportunities, what are you doing here?***

i claimed that there will be no shortage of manpower no matter what.....which is the reason why i am here.....less manpower...more opportunities..

the reason i hate that article is becos.....it lacks a class......its like people magazine or mayapuri......its not a researched article....no one has done any editing to see if the facts are right.....it has entertainment value for outsourcing haters....but it does not represent any fact as they are ....
 
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techy2468 said:
lc_ki_kahani....i wish you could read the article and make comments....
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My only comment is to ignore unmeritorious articles which create confusion amongst the masses. Stay well informed and share information with others that create value for everyone. Information should be disseminated carefully. Judge the press articles according to ur education and experience. :)
 
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techy2468 said:
lc_ki_kahani....i wish you could read the article and make comments....
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Guys, I think we are going overboard with this article. To put it in a nutshell, the "Skill" being talked about in the article is the ability to communicate with an average person of the native country (US,UK etc.) in gramatically correct English which can be easily understood. The "skill" goes beyond just "good grammar". It involves speaking slowly & clearly with the appropriate pauses and most importantly listening before speaking. But of course, last but not the least, an American taking calls from the general Indian population would not have the required skills because of the difference in accent, communication style etc. The same goes for an Indian taking calls from the general American population (most of whom have not spoken more than a few words to Indians in their lives). Definitely India has a larger "good quality" english speaking population than China or Phillipines. Power and other infrastructure seem to be more worrisome factors :)

It definitely makes sense for Americans or Europeans to be recruited for these jobs in India citing the shortage of these skills. I think that it is fair game considering that we came here based on the shortage of some skills.

SOMETHING TO PONDER -
If the Indian Railways were to open a national level call center in Bangalore it will face a severe shortage of skills and will have to recruit many people from the North eventhough there are many native Karnataka people who know reasonably good Hindi but are simply not good enough to handle calls from a large percentage of the population which happens to live in the Hindi speaking regions.
 
H1 visa increasing

Hey guys , anyone knows whether the immigration bill that will be issued on Feb. will include increasing h1 visas or not ?

Thanks for reply
 
concorde.........i would suggest that you read the article again......

i am not against the issues....but the article is so shallow....its more of a gimmick than journalism......if that is the case...how much credibility can one give to whatever it says......and in-fact....most of the data is inaccurate..
 
there are many negative articles - focus on the problem

Guys and gals

There are many negative articles about India/ Indian / IT. Many are based on "viewpoints" not facts. Please also be aware, there is a negative media bias towards everything Indian. So, do not get overboard about one article.

If every Indian had English like the one mentioned in the article, we would not have had the Call Center industry at all. But we know that is not true. The fact is many of such stories are "planted" by people eager to create confusions. It's like "If you cannot beat them, confuse them".

And with all the journalism scandals in the US in the past 5 years, I take all newspaper articles with skepticism.

But, let's get on the task ahead - the comprehensive immigration bill

Regards
GCStrat :)
 
Please focus on the task that is EB Retrogression and not any thing else.
We are all matured educated individuals. Lets focus on the task at hand.
I might meet the senator and house reprentative from my state. I have
sunil joshi's ppt. Guys give me some ideas. Do you guys know of any bills
coming in the new year we need to consider seriously.
 
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