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Well! Center for Immigration Studies is one of the many fronts of F.A.I.R which got itself false reputation as a think tank.One of the posts in this thread has links to some article which explains origin of these anti-immigrant organizations.



jhawilla said:
NEEDED SKILLS OR CHEAP LABOR?
Report: H-1B Workers Paid Less than U.S. Workers, Despite Wage Rules

CONTACT: John Miano, miano@colosseumbuilders.com

WASHINGTON (December 2005) -- The budget bill was approved by the Senate Wednesday minus a provision that would have added 30,000 visas to the H-1B foreign-worker program. But efforts to increase this visa program are certain to resume next year.

To help inform this debate, the Center for Immigration Studies has published a new analysis of thousands of Labor Department applications which finds that employers are paying H-1B workers less than comparable American workers.

The ''prevailing wage'' requirement for this visa program is designed to prevent the hiring of foreign workers from depressing U.S. wages and to protect foreign workers from exploitation. Instead, the data show that the H-1B program is primarily used to import workers at the very bottom of the wage scale. The wide gap between wages for U.S. workers and H-1B workers helps explain why industry demand for H-1B workers is so high and why the annual visa quotas are being exhausted.

The new study is entitled ''The Bottom of the Pay Scale: Wages for H-1B Computer Programmers,'' by software industry expert John Miano. It compares wages in approved Labor Condition Applications (LCAs) for H-1B workers in computer programming occupations to wage levels of U.S. workers in the same occupation and location. It is on line at http://www.cis.org/articles/2005/back1305.html

Among the findings

* In spite of the requirement that H-1B workers be paid the prevailing wage, H-1B workers earn significantly less than their American counterparts. On average, applications for H-1B workers in computer occupations were for wages $13,000 less than Americans in the same occupation and state.

* Wages for H-1B workers in computer programming occupations are overwhelmingly concentrated at the bottom of the U.S. pay scale. Wages on LCAs for 85 percent of H-1B workers were for less than the median U.S. wage in the same occupations and state.

* Applications for 47 percent of H-1B computer programming workers were for wages below even the prevailing wage claimed by their employers.

* Very few H-1B workers earned high wages by U.S. standards. Applications for only 4 percent of H-1B workers were among the top 25 percent of wages for U.S. workers in the same state and occupation.

* Many employers use their own salary surveys and wage surveys for entry-level workers, rather than more relevant and objective data sources, to make prevailing-wage claims when hiring H-1B workers.

* Employers of large numbers of H-1B workers tend to pay those workers less than those who hire a few. Employers making applications for more than 100 H-1B workers had wages averaging $9,000 less than employers of one to 10 H-1B workers.

* The problem of low wages for H-1B workers could be addressed with a few relatively simple changes to the law.
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tusharvk said:
your point that PRs and visa holders need a good forum to protect their rights is well taken;
I am not sure if one does not already exist at least for PRs.
however, this hr 4437 has a long way to go before it becomes a law.
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tusharvk,

I would think join existing organization like ISNAmerica.org . I would have suggested immigrationportal.org where I used to be a member but now they appear to have slowed down. But remember, expect to see interim failures both in courts and in the legislature just like that class action that Rajiv did for us back in April. We would need to contribute regularly, on a monthly basis. There needs to be a watchdog mechanism that keeps our interests and our rights in mind regardless of interim failures. I am sure we will succeed -eventually. Important thing is to keep the big picture in mind.
 
applying h1

Hi guys,

Me and my husband are here for past 7 years and traped in retrogression.
IAm in H4 for past 7 years. IS that possible, to get the H1 for me. I heard that after 6 years in h4, cannot apply for the h1. is that true? anybody can answer me
 
Yes I am afraid thats true

Basically, H4 counts towards your H time even if its H1, so by staying on H4 for 7 years you have automatically run out of H time and can only depend on the extensions of your husband until he gets his EADs.
This is extremely unfair but its the reality.
frog
padmain said:
Hi guys,

Me and my husband are here for past 7 years and traped in retrogression.
IAm in H4 for past 7 years. IS that possible, to get the H1 for me. I heard that after 6 years in h4, cannot apply for the h1. is that true? anybody can answer me
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Thank you frog

I have been a silent watcher of this thread for past 5 months.....
everyday i used to update me with this thread, and watching all the crap on cspan...

I know that so many people are working hard here... hope we reach the fruit
I pray God..
 
request

Hi
Can you please confirm this? where can i find more accurately? Don't be mistaken, this is a serious issue for me too

Thanks

eefrog said:
Basically, H4 counts towards your H time even if its H1, so by staying on H4 for 7 years you have automatically run out of H time and can only depend on the extensions of your husband until he gets his EADs.
This is extremely unfair but its the reality.
frog
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Sorry..it is true..

One can stay in H visa (irrespective of whether it is H1 or H4) for 6 years. Time spent on H4 also counts towards the 6 year period for H visa.

Thanks,
Senthil
 
7th year and H4

Does that mean that H4 visa can be held indefinately as long as spouse holds H1. I was of the impression that if 6 years completes on H status then regardless of whether the spouse continues to have H status unless the spouse has completed 1 year of GC filing a person is not eligible for 7th year H4.

I am asking this coz I heard what you claim from other sources too. Its that while H years count towards your six year limit for H1 , H4 visa is limitless as long as spouse has H1.
 
sameer2730 said:
Does that mean that H4 visa can be held indefinately as long as spouse holds H1. I was of the impression that if 6 years completes on H status then regardless of whether the spouse continues to have H status unless the spouse has completed 1 year of GC filing a person is not eligible for 7th year H4.

I am asking this coz I heard what you claim from other sources too. Its that while H years count towards your six year limit for H1 , H4 visa is limitless as long as spouse has H1.
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Years spent in H4 status count towards the 6 year limit. Thus, if you have spent 6 years on H4 status, you cannot get an H1 later unless you go out of the country for a year and then come back.

However, you can be on H4 status as long as the spouse is on H1 ( if the spouse is eligible for extensions beyond 6 years on account of pending labor or GC).

Proof - My situation. Both myself and my spouse came to the US in 1999 on individual H1's. My spouse company did not apply for her GC (hence no labor applicatiion for her). At the end of 6 years, i was able to get a 7th year extn on my H1 on account of a pending labor app for myself. Since i got an extn on my H1, spouse was eligible for getting an H4.

Hope this helps...

UPdated: Yep, this is the wrong thread...end of this discussion out here hopefully
 
njk said:
Well! Center for Immigration Studies is one of the many fronts of F.A.I.R which got itself false reputation as a think tank.One of the posts in this thread has links to some article which explains origin of these anti-immigrant organizations.
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Center for Immigrant Studies is an advocacy group that wants strict limits on immigration...see todays NYtimes there is an article on immigration bill for 2006
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/24/p...&en=5d2cbbf24364ac66&ei=5094&partner=homepage
 
manojs55 said:
Center for Immigrant Studies is an advocacy group that wants strict limits on immigration...see todays NYtimes there is an article on immigration bill for 2006
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/24/p...&en=5d2cbbf24364ac66&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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Here are the abstracts...

DENVER, Dec. 21 - For nearly a decade, Representative Tom Tancredo, Republican of Colorado, has been dismissed by his critics as little more than an angry man with a microphone, a lonely figure who rails against immigration and battles his own president and party....

But last week, the man denounced by critics on the left and on the right suddenly emerged as an influential lawmaker. Pressured by conservative constituents angered by the continuing flow of illegal immigrants into the United States, Republicans rallied around Mr. Tancredo to defy the president and produce the toughest immigration legislation in more than a decade...

....Mr. Tancredo did not get everything he wanted. He still wants a moratorium on legal immigration, soldiers on the border, a longer fence (and one along the border with Canada) as well as a law that would deny citizenship to children born to parents who are not citizens or permanent residents. And many Republicans and Democrats say it seems unlikely that the border security bill passed by the House last week will become law in its current form, if it ever becomes law at all.

But as a jubilant Mr. Tancredo returned to his office here this week, there was little doubt that he had become a symbol of the ascendancy of deeply conservative thinkers in the bitter Republican debate over immigration policy. The lonely firebrand had become the man of the moment, and he could not help but marvel at the wonder of it all......

He has infuriated members of his own party by attacking President Bush and by siding against Republicans in Congressional races when their opponents share his views on immigration. Mr. Tancredo said he got into a shouting match with Mr. Rove after telling The Washington Times that Mr. Bush would have blood on his hands if he did not toughen the nation's immigration laws. Mr. Tancredo said that was when Mr. Rove told him not to darken the White House's doorstep.

.....The border security measure would make it a federal crime to live in the United States illegally, which would turn millions of immigrants into felons, ineligible to win any legal status. The bill would make it a crime for employees of social service agencies and church groups to shield or offer support to illegal immigrants.

The legislation would also require the mandatory detention of some immigrants, would withhold some federal aid from cities that provide immigrants with services without checking their legal status and would decrease the number of legal immigrants admitted annually by eliminating a program that provides 50,000 green cards each year.
 
Nice article, I have written a thank you letter to the reporter, Please continue to post the articles like this in this forum and I would encourage more and more people to contact the media with thank you letters.

seahawks said:
When each of you write letters, or talk to senators and representatives on your pains and problems on visa retrogression, I read an article which is pretty much a reality that affects most of us, if not the exact same scenario. I think this article is well told.

read on

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002645309_visabacklog25m.html
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shortage for doctors

today there is an article in yahoo news on shortage of doctors. I do not know how to post the link here. Rural Hospitals Face Doctor Shortages 2 hours, 54 minutes ago



PHOENIX - Health care experts say physician recruitment and retention is a perennial problem in Arizona, but the stakes are much higher in rural areas as the state's population soars.

According to the Arizona Hospital and Healthcare Association, Arizona ranks among the states with the lowest number of working nurses and physicians per capita. Even more troubling is that according to the National Rural Health Association, one out of 10 of the nation's doctors practice in rural areas, where one-fourth of the nation's population lives.

"We have people out in the middle of nowhere come here and are on death's doorstep," said Jason Taylor, a medical resident at Kingman Regional Medical Center.

One of the challenges residents and physicians face in rural health care is the lack of specialists, placing the burden on rural doctors to fill in the gaps of knowledge and develop an eye for the subtle nature of life-threatening ailments.

"They have to have the ability to anticipate and know what your limits are and what your resources are," said Lori Kemper, who oversees the Midwestern University's rural residency program, which was started to help attract more doctors to places like Kingman, Sierra Vista and Yuma.

Attracting primary-care physicians has also been a problem, said Alison Hughes, director of the Rural Hospital Flexibility Program at UA. That, despite attractive loan-repayment programs, rural medical rotations by the UA and Midwestern's residency program, and federal money earmarked for a Midwestern residency program in Sierra Vista this year.

Hughes says that if a medical resident comes from a rural community, he or she is much more likely to practice in such a community. That means medical schools need to recruit rural students more vigorously.

"I've worked in the rural health office for 20 years," she said. "Recruitment for rural physicians and nurses was a huge area. Twenty years later, it's just as huge."

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Information from: The Arizona Republic, http://www.azcentral.com
 
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