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Result of the court hearing 12th July 2010
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gym, i didn't find my happines so was going to the gym everytime...
i was staying in cote des neiges... i kind of miss montreal
i was staying in cote des neiges... i kind of miss montreal
..pap!!!
@jayo2k, where have you been the whole day?
gym, i didn't find my happines so was going to the gym everytime...
i was staying in cote des neiges... i kind of miss montreal
http://oig.state.gov/documents/organization/166201.pdf
LOL!!Note key judgements about Mr. KIrit Amin (director) ........his managerial approach has created tension within CST and friction with other bureau and Department of State (Department) offices. Now that CA leadership has weighed in and the Department’s Civil Service ombudsman has begun a dialogue with CST, tension levels have eased; however, there is need for continued effort in and oversight of this matter.
What is CST?
Office of Consular Systems and TechnologyWhat is CST?
ProudFrenchJap!
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I spent 1 year in montreal... how do u like Detroit?
Detroit is a great city, of course being summer now it's real boiling hot here being in mid 90F bit hotter than Montreal which was mid 80F when I left, and Detroit is very pretty in the summer! Most of the suburbs of Detroit are wonderful and modern looking but then again just like any other city there are terrible suburbs, especially in Detroit. All in all it's not a bad place, would not want to live here but its still a very nice city. I am heading up to Grand Rapids up northern Michigan once I get GC then back to Montreal for a bit then back to Grand Rapids!
The Office of Consular Systems and Technology (CST)What is CST?
I have an impression the decision to assigne Amin to write affidavit was some kind of a step in an internal struggle at CST.The director has a clear, well-articulated vision for his office as an exemplar of information management in the Federal Government. He deserves credit for his accomplishments and leadership role. His larger-than-life persona dominates the office. Although the director possesses strong technical skills and a fierce determination to achieve his goals, his managerial approach has created tension within CST and friction with other bureau and Department of State (Department) offices. Now that CA leadership has weighed in and the Department’s Civil Service ombudsman has begun a dialogue with CST, tension levels have eased; however, there is need for continued effort in and oversight of this matter.
I believe the new person to write it will be Haar Sandhu, Chief of Enterprise Systems (ES) Division, responsible for Electronic Diversity Visa (eDV). Kirit Amin is his boss.
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If there is no injunction and no final decision by July 15th or so, DOS will publish new results.
That can DOS give a real headache, right?
I do not think so.
1. I still believe the final decision will be the initial drawing was not random. Just because court cannot call black white and white black - that would be a major blow to US justice system.
2. Even if that is not the case, a broken commitment is not a problem in case it is broken in order to fulfill congressional mandate.
1. I still believe the final decision will be the initial drawing was not random. Just because court cannot call black white and white black - that would be a major blow to US justice system.
2. Even if that is not the case, a broken commitment is not a problem in case it is broken in order to fulfill congressional mandate.
I highly doubt this. Why? Because if the voided results reinstated, the new "winners" will sue the DOS after they get dumped...
If there is no injunction and no final decision by July 15th or so, DOS will publish new results.
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4rm Mr. Whites initial statement on this issue: NB: Its been edited by me to make it shorter:
On May 1 DV-2012 Lottery participants learned their fate: whether their entries were selected. But what the losing participants did not count on was that the overwhelming majority of winners were those who submitted their entries on October 5 and 6, 2010, the first two days of the DV-2012 Lottery. For DV-2012, the “early birds” did get the proverbial worm – the right to pursue immigrant visa applications at US consular posts abroad or adjust status to permanent resident if lawfully located in the United States.
In its DV-2012 instructions, DOS notified applicants that “the computer will randomly select individuals from among all qualified entries.” Absent from these instructions was notification that in order to be considered “qualified”, one needed to have submitted his entry on October 5th and 6th, at least for the overwhelming majority of those being selected.
I first learned of the Fivers and Sixers from two independent, reliable DV sources in Uzbekistan and Ukraine. I then checked out a few Internet fora (which I rarely do), and found that they were ablaze with fury. This link has a representative discussion: http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?323624-DV-2012-was-a-SCAM-!!!& According to one entry, “… there is the user on this forum that claims his company prepared 252643 entries and had been submitting them 10000-12000 per day from 7 to 29. First day – on 6th they were submitting fewer entries (2250) as they were testing. AND THE WINNERS WERE: 1301 wins on 6th, 0 wins from 7 till 17, 57 wins from 18 to 29.” The consensus appears to be that a minor bug in the computer’s algorithm led to the problem, although this is of course little succor to those not selected.
One side effect of this skewed selection is that numerous husband and wife entrants each were selected. Obviously, qualified individuals in the same family are likely to submit their separate entries at or about the same time. As a result, husbands and wives who submitted on October 5th and 6th were more likely to be selected separately than if the entries were selected evenly over the 30 day registration period.
The cardinal principle underlying the DV-Lottery is that it is supposed to be random. DV-2012 was not. We look forward to the reaction of the Department of State. At the least, we urge it to take steps to ensure that the 50,000 green card allotment is exhausted – as Congress intended.
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If its another person that wrote all these, it could have been better. For Mr. Whites to clearly says something is no & u proof it beyond reasonable doubt. U r now saying nah, expert prove its really random & by d way, u didn’t call for the cancellation but only its review. That’s inconsistence & contradiction in his policy. I think its better for Mr. White to allow the other attorney take up this case cos his statements might be use against him.
On May 1 DV-2012 Lottery participants learned their fate: whether their entries were selected. But what the losing participants did not count on was that the overwhelming majority of winners were those who submitted their entries on October 5 and 6, 2010, the first two days of the DV-2012 Lottery. For DV-2012, the “early birds” did get the proverbial worm – the right to pursue immigrant visa applications at US consular posts abroad or adjust status to permanent resident if lawfully located in the United States.
In its DV-2012 instructions, DOS notified applicants that “the computer will randomly select individuals from among all qualified entries.” Absent from these instructions was notification that in order to be considered “qualified”, one needed to have submitted his entry on October 5th and 6th, at least for the overwhelming majority of those being selected.
I first learned of the Fivers and Sixers from two independent, reliable DV sources in Uzbekistan and Ukraine. I then checked out a few Internet fora (which I rarely do), and found that they were ablaze with fury. This link has a representative discussion: http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?323624-DV-2012-was-a-SCAM-!!!& According to one entry, “… there is the user on this forum that claims his company prepared 252643 entries and had been submitting them 10000-12000 per day from 7 to 29. First day – on 6th they were submitting fewer entries (2250) as they were testing. AND THE WINNERS WERE: 1301 wins on 6th, 0 wins from 7 till 17, 57 wins from 18 to 29.” The consensus appears to be that a minor bug in the computer’s algorithm led to the problem, although this is of course little succor to those not selected.
One side effect of this skewed selection is that numerous husband and wife entrants each were selected. Obviously, qualified individuals in the same family are likely to submit their separate entries at or about the same time. As a result, husbands and wives who submitted on October 5th and 6th were more likely to be selected separately than if the entries were selected evenly over the 30 day registration period.
The cardinal principle underlying the DV-Lottery is that it is supposed to be random. DV-2012 was not. We look forward to the reaction of the Department of State. At the least, we urge it to take steps to ensure that the 50,000 green card allotment is exhausted – as Congress intended.
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If its another person that wrote all these, it could have been better. For Mr. Whites to clearly says something is no & u proof it beyond reasonable doubt. U r now saying nah, expert prove its really random & by d way, u didn’t call for the cancellation but only its review. That’s inconsistence & contradiction in his policy. I think its better for Mr. White to allow the other attorney take up this case cos his statements might be use against him.
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I do not think so.
1. I still believe the final decision will be the initial drawing was not random. Just because court cannot call black white and white black - that would be a major blow to US justice system.
2. Even if that is not the case, a broken commitment is not a problem in case it is broken in order to fulfill congressional mandate.
Yop..I totally agree. Due process rather than emotional feelings will be followed.