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How to find the LC is at BEC or not?

Hi Guys,

Any idea like how to find out whether my application was transferred to Philly BEC?

PD : June 2003
RD : Feb 2004

No Love Letter Yet :(
 
Folks,

We have to take positive out of these news...certainly there is something wrong with the ones who haven't recieved the letters yet. check the address on applications and contact names etc.

Thx

srinivas_o said:
Hi Guys,

Here is some info about BRC from Immigration.com

I think the info provided by immigration-law.com is correct. Please go through this document and find out yourselves.

http://www.immigration.com/perm/permdolnews.pdf

All this sucks.... :mad:

PD : 06/2003
RD : 02/2004
NO Love Letter Yet :(
 
Gosh guys....calm down!!

(This to pennwaiting too)

All this heat is making me regret commenting. My point was..

...there is a tendency to react to every little piece of information on this site and others as though it was THE definitive FACT about something. I happen to read quite widely anything I can (including immigration-law.com daily!) as I, my wife, and two teenage kids came to US because we want to live and work here and more importantly want to stay here. That said just like when I watch the US evening news I do not necessarily take for granted what I am seeing/hearing/reading is THE truth....merely a version/interpretation of the truth. I certainly would not trust just one news source like FoxNews, CNN or even the venerable old 'reliable' BBC!!! ;)

I get as frustrated with everything we (dont) hear from DOL and BCIS and other sources as does everyone else on this board . I do however try to remain positive and look to share everything firm that I do hear that seems relevant to our mutual plight...for example my receiving the 45 day letter and other information from my lawyer about their actual cases. Beyond that I keep my despondency and anger more or less to myself

All I would ask for is that other folks show similar emotional restraint.

Keep smiling it stops the face from becoming lined!!! :D

allaboutgc said:
pineapple, stuenym,

English does not matter. Grammer does not matter...

It is the F*** TRUTH that matters.

You should not have any false hope on DOL now.
 
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MD2001 said:
Folks,

We have to take positive out of these news...certainly there is something wrong with the ones who haven't recieved the letters yet. check the address on applications and contact names etc.

Thx

Why do you think there is something wrong with the cases with no "love letter" yet? According to the memorandom on Jan22 ( just last Friday), The letters are going out and not all cases have received the letter. In my case, address and contact names didn't change. What can be wrong with my case?
 
Very Important comment in this report

There is a very important comment in this report from rajiv on the AILIA update.

"FIFO Based Upon the Date Attorneys Respond
RIR NON RIR Treated Alike
As the letters come back, FIFO will dictate the order of adjudication of cases. RIR will not be processed any faster than non-RIR."


The first line indicates that as Attorney's respond they are going to begin adjudication based on when they get the replies from the attorneys. This is different from what has been reported on here and in the immigration-law update from the Chicago DOL open days.

Before it had been reported that all 45 day letters and their replies would be processed completely before any adjudications would be processed and then only on the basis of Priority Date (i.e. SWA receipt date). This now looks like they will begin adjudications well before that process has finished and on FIFO basis of replies to 45 day letters they have received from lawyers.

If this is so, then we should see some adjudications in the near future (always a difficult concept in DOL/BCIS world I know!!). I realize this is of no comfort to the guys still waiting on the 45 day 'love letter" but it could be a positive development that gives us all encouragement....let's wait and see for some evidence of this policy.

Icarus/Tomshu/Orissa...if you get a chance to try and confirm this with our BEC/BRC/BPC contacts that would be great.

You see...I continue to try and remain positive :p

srinivas_o said:
Hi Guys,

Here is some info about BRC from Immigration.com

I think the info provided by immigration-law.com is correct. Please go through this document and find out yourselves.

http://www.immigration.com/perm/permdolnews.pdf

All this sucks.... :mad:

PD : 06/2003
RD : 02/2004
NO Love Letter Yet :(
 
I just checked my case in flcdatacenter and found something:
1. The address listed was not anymore with our company. Eventhough our main building address didn't change, we used to have more buildings and found that all the applications do not have same address mentioned.

2. The contact name mentioned is not working anymore.

The only possibility is that the Lawyer gets his copy but I doubt how much BEC is accurate in sending letters to both.

This could be a false alarm but I am taking the worst and invenstigating myself because BEC entered philly regional cases long time back.

I will post any useful information that I find out...

Thx

VAhoper said:
Why do you think there is something wrong with the cases with no "love letter" yet? According to the memorandom on Jan22 ( just last Friday), The letters are going out and not all cases have received the letter. In my case, address and contact names didn't change. What can be wrong with my case?
 
Bottom line is soon we should see some certifications soon (either RIR or Non-RIR). But till now nothing .. :mad:. Any idea when they are going to see our responses to "love letters" ? It looks like this is one more never ending que .. :confused:
 
Hi MD2001,

How to find out info about my application in flcdatacenter? could you please let me know?


MD2001 said:
I just checked my case in flcdatacenter and found
something:
1. The address listed was not anymore with our company. Eventhough our main building address didn't change, we used to have more buildings and found that all the applications do not have same address mentioned.

2. The contact name mentioned is not working anymore.

The only possibility is that the Lawyer gets his copy but I doubt how much BEC is accurate in sending letters to both.

This could be a false alarm but I am taking the worst and invenstigating myself because BEC entered philly regional cases long time back.

I will post any useful information that I find out...

Thx
 
stueym said:
(This to pennwaiting too)

I keep my despondency and anger more or less to myself

All I would ask for is that other folks show similar emotional restraint.

Keep smiling it stops the face from becoming lined!!! :D
Exactly!
 
update

Guys....

I think immigration-law and other sites are just providing the information they get. They do not gain from spreading rumors. It is frustrating but then can we do anything about this forward -backward statements....

"NO". Let us be hopeful.

I also updated the tracker sheet with my info, since my company got that so called love letter last month and my attroney still states that they have not got. My company recd that letter on dec 22, 2004. the HR person just checked " I wish to continue the processing of this application" , signed and dated it on 1/11/05 and faxed it back to the number it indicated. I think that should be enough but the form which was faxed had the from address as my attorney and for case my company. I am not sure if my attorney had to respond to it or not. I am trying to resolve this issue.

I heard from this forum someone had a fragomen as their attorney, just a note to them they are also my attorney , whom i have never found helpful but since it is my company's attorney's i had to just go with them. :mad:
 
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The other thing in the F*** document that bothers me is that it states that DOL is still developing the "National Proceesing Standards" for RIR. The "national standard" can be more strict than the Regional Center standard in your specific region. For example, in my regoin, advertisement does NOT need to last the whole 6 months. Instead, one month is enough (but must happen within 6 months before the filing). So if the "national standard" becomes more strict, we may not be approved and could all face "Notice of Finding!" This will require additional advertisement and more delays. Right now the only words that I want to say is "DAMN IT!!!" :mad:

Still Working on National Standards for RIR
DOL National Office is working on national standards against which to evaluate such issues as RIR regional variations throughout the country.
Examples of such variations would include how offices treat the following issues:
Whether Item 15 can be used in an RIR case;
Whether the job must be advertised in trade/professional journal or whether newspaper advertising is acceptable;
Whether an ad in Sunday edition of a newspaper is required;
Whether requirements must be quantified or whether they can be expressed as "knowledge of" or "proficiency in";
Whether recruitment must take place throughout the six month period prior to filing or simply within the six months (i.e., one month might be sufficient);
Whether the experience on Form ETA 750B can have gaps or all periods must be covered including periods of unemployment.
 
PhillyKeepWait said:
I could not find my case record in the database. What could go wrong? Thanks.

My case info:
RIR
Philly State Receipt Date (PD): 09/07/2003
Philly Regional DOL Receipt Date (RD): 09/23/2003
DOL should have not updated your record
 
allaboutgc said:
The other thing in the F*** document that bothers me is that it states that DOL is still developing the "National Proceesing Standards" for RIR. The "national standard" can be more strict than the Regional Center standard in your specific region. For example, in my regoin, advertisement does NOT need to last the whole 6 months. Instead, one month is enough (but must happen within 6 months before the filing). So if the "national standard" becomes more strict, we may not be approved and could all face "Notice of Finding!" This will require additional advertisement and more delays. Right now the only words that I want to say is "DAMN IT!!!" :mad:

Still Working on National Standards for RIR
DOL National Office is working on national standards against which to evaluate such issues as RIR regional variations throughout the country.
Examples of such variations would include how offices treat the following issues:
Whether Item 15 can be used in an RIR case;
Whether the job must be advertised in trade/professional journal or whether newspaper advertising is acceptable;
Whether an ad in Sunday edition of a newspaper is required;
Whether requirements must be quantified or whether they can be expressed as "knowledge of" or "proficiency in";
Whether recruitment must take place throughout the six month period prior to filing or simply within the six months (i.e., one month might be sufficient);
Whether the experience on Form ETA 750B can have gaps or all periods must be covered including periods of unemployment.
The national standards are being developed for uniforminity and that does not mean that it will change the requirments.

Examples of such variations would include how offices treat the following issues:
Whether Item 15 can be used in an RIR case;.[/QUOTE] - yes
Whether the job must be advertised in trade/professional journal or whether - newspaper advertising is acceptable;.as per RIR it is not required but optional to advertise in journals and that this cannot be a requirement in any DOL
Whether an ad in Sunday edition of a newspaper is required;. -as per RIR it is not required but optional to advertise in journals and that this cannot be a requirement in any DOL

Whether recruitment must take place throughout the six month period prior to filing or simply within the six months (i.e., one month might be sufficient);.- Recrcuitment should be within 6 months and it could be just one month as per RIR regulation now no DOL can change that requirement.

National standards i think should have no effect in BEC, It could add as auto qualifier requirements in PERM...

These are just my views
 
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Well, IF all the letters have been sent out, we should all receive the letters within 2 weeks. My application was sent to Philly in late Nov, 2004. Due to the approval as late as Nov, 2004 by Virginia State, would I also expect to receive the 45-day letter? Anyone? Icarus?
 
Anyone else waiting?

Hi, I'm still waiting for the 45 day letter.

I file from VA, PD 07/2002, Philly RD 04/2004. RIR. Did anyone filed in the same time frame and still waiting for the letter?

I'm getting worried now since they said they have sent out all the letters!
 
VAhoper said:
Hi, I'm still waiting for the 45 day letter.

I file from VA, PD 07/2002, Philly RD 04/2004. RIR. Did anyone filed in the same time frame and still waiting for the letter?

I'm getting worried now since they said they have sent out all the letters!
Go to your HR and check your file. That is how i came to know that they got my letter. Quite frustrating if your HR does not know a thing about the misery we undergo.
 
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