Philadelphia Backlog Elimination Center Tracking

my2cents said:
If PBEC are processing Apr 2002 for TR so doesn it means all TR cases before that ( which went to regional ) are certified . it is only possilbe in following cases

- almost all cases filed in 2001 ( which went of regional ) were non RIR.
- people who have TR cases ( whose cases went to regional before creation of PBEC and PD< Apr 2002 ) are not members of this forum so we don't know whether there cases are certified
- Looking at BEC tracker in other forums, Total cases in BEC tracker (in PBEC tab ) are 356 and only 15 (4.2%) are non RIR, all others is RIR. it means although RIR doesn't require much effort to certify there is a huge number of applications.
- Looking at BEC tracker in other forums , following people have PD before or on Apr 2002 ( these TR cases got moved to regional) .we need to ask them if any one of them got approval


Name: PD:

Choclito 25-Apr-01
shalinilulla 11-May-01
gc4long 01-Oct-01
GPra 21-Jan-02
Aurora73 01-Mar-02

Above information should make it clear wheree we are
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Hello my friends,
No aproval yet :(
TR - PD april 2001
 
my2cents said:
If PBEC are processing Apr 2002 for TR so doesn it means all TR cases before that ( which went to regional ) are certified . it is only possilbe in following cases

- almost all cases filed in 2001 ( which went of regional ) were non RIR.
- people who have TR cases ( whose cases went to regional before creation of PBEC and PD< Apr 2002 ) are not members of this forum so we don't know whether there cases are certified
- Looking at BEC tracker in other forums, Total cases in BEC tracker (in PBEC tab ) are 356 and only 15 (4.2%) are non RIR, all others is RIR. it means although RIR doesn't require much effort to certify there is a huge number of applications.
- Looking at BEC tracker in other forums , following people have PD before or on Apr 2002 ( these TR cases got moved to regional) .we need to ask them if any one of them got approval


Name: PD:

Choclito 25-Apr-01
shalinilulla 11-May-01
gc4long 01-Oct-01
GPra 21-Jan-02
Aurora73 01-Mar-02

Above information should make it clear wheree we are
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I am gc4long. I haven't got my approval. As all of you are disussing that Phily BEC has been processing April 2002 non-RIR cases, I asked my lawers to find out about the status of my case. I am still awaiting their response. Looks like approvals are random.

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PD: 01-Oct-2001
State: VA non-RIR EB3
VA approval date: Feb 2004
45 Day letter: 11-Feb-2005
 
Got some bad news this morning. PBEC called up our lawyer and told them that they would deny all applications from our company and that they had a choice of either withdrawing them or refiling under perm. I guess this is how they plan to eliminate the backlog...by forcing people to refile under perm. My H1B extention is being applied for today and then i guess we will be filing under perm. I will loose my PD of July 2003.
I got my letter in April. If anyone has anything to say to lift my spirits please do so......
 
zlegion said:
Got some bad news this morning. PBEC called up our lawyer and told them that they would deny all applications from our company and that they had a choice of either withdrawing them or refiling under perm. I guess this is how they plan to eliminate the backlog...by forcing people to refile under perm. My H1B extention is being applied for today and then i guess we will be filing under perm. I will loose my PD of July 2003.
I got my letter in April. If anyone has anything to say to lift my spirits please do so......
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There has to be a reason for that. Look at the status of your company. Maybe it changed adress. Something from your company side was messed up. They wont do that until they got good reason.
Look also for that attorney...
Yu got to have a NOF before doing anything.
 
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What was the reason for denial?

How can they threaten a denial w/o issuing any NOF? Was there anything wrong with the applications? Please share any details.
frog
 
Hmmm!!

Based upon gclong and Choclito response .we can not be sure that PBEC is Apr 2002 ...probably best guess is that these cases are at CO table and ready to be certified or cases are already certified but not mailed out

PBEC is like a black hole !!
 
zlegion said:
Got some bad news this morning. PBEC called up our lawyer and told them that they would deny all applications from our company and that they had a choice of either withdrawing them or refiling under perm. I guess this is how they plan to eliminate the backlog...by forcing people to refile under perm. My H1B extention is being applied for today and then i guess we will be filing under perm. I will loose my PD of July 2003.
I got my letter in April. If anyone has anything to say to lift my spirits please do so......
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You can refile under PERM without losing your PD. Ask your lawyer (or a different one if yours has already messed up your LC applicaqtion) to look into it. You might actually be better off refiling under PERM as people in oteher forums say it is quick and they receive approvals in about 1-2 months ...
 
Can u explain more in detail !!!

Hi Zlegion,
What was the reason?
1. Was ur case(s) opened by SWA b4 making to PBEC?
a. If so was it approved or NOF issued?

2.Did ur case(s) make it to Regional b4 going to PBEC after ur cases approved @ SWA level?

Kindly shed some light...

Thanks,
Immidude74


zlegion said:
Got some bad news this morning. PBEC called up our lawyer and told them that they would deny all applications from our company and that they had a choice of either withdrawing them or refiling under perm. I guess this is how they plan to eliminate the backlog...by forcing people to refile under perm. My H1B extention is being applied for today and then i guess we will be filing under perm. I will loose my PD of July 2003.
I got my letter in April. If anyone has anything to say to lift my spirits please do so......
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I dont think there was anything wrong with the applications. Before the BEC we had got at least 50 labour certifications approved that were similar. So when the lawyer questioned them on that, they supposedly told him to refile under perm. I am not sure abt all the details as yet. My application was with Philly regional since oct 20 2003. It had gone thru supervised recruitment as it was non RIR. Dont know what went wrong. Anyways, hope u guys all have better luck than me.
 
is ur company a consulting firm?

zlegion said:
I dont think there was anything wrong with the applications. Before the BEC we had got at least 50 labour certifications approved that were similar. So when the lawyer questioned them on that, they supposedly told him to refile under perm. I am not sure abt all the details as yet. My application was with Philly regional since oct 20 2003. It had gone thru supervised recruitment as it was non RIR. Dont know what went wrong. Anyways, hope u guys all have better luck than me.
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My PD is may 2001, TR case, no approval yet ...

I called PBEC this morning but the lady said she cannot check case status ... I asked her if she can atleast tell me wht dates they're processing since mine is a 2001 TR case ..she said we're doing cases from that year but I can't give you the exact dates ...

I've asked my lawyer to initiate an inquiry .. yet to hear back from him ..
 
zlegion said:
I dont think there was anything wrong with the applications. Before the BEC we had got at least 50 labour certifications approved that were similar. So when the lawyer questioned them on that, they supposedly told him to refile under perm. I am not sure abt all the details as yet. My application was with Philly regional since oct 20 2003. It had gone thru supervised recruitment as it was non RIR. Dont know what went wrong. Anyways, hope u guys all have better luck than me.
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dag dude that is serious stuff. Although there is probably no point in fighting this... it sure is a bad sign. I didnt know the bec was allowed to do this, see according to the rules, i thought they had to send intent to deny (along with reason of course OR NOF) before they could deny. Also, there is an appeals process after denial although how expedient that is maybe another question.

Can you ask your lawyer or HR to give you reason of denial ? If they dont give you a better reason, I would be suspicious.... but in the end I doubt if we can do anything about it.
 
deny all applications from your company

zlegion said:
I dont think there was anything wrong with the applications. Before the BEC we had got at least 50 labour certifications approved that were similar. So when the lawyer questioned them on that, they supposedly told him to refile under perm. I am not sure abt all the details as yet. My application was with Philly regional since oct 20 2003. It had gone thru supervised recruitment as it was non RIR. Dont know what went wrong. Anyways, hope u guys all have better luck than me.
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Dear zlegion, why would they deny all applications from your company?
 
hi spidey,
Ur right. They did tell the lawyer about intent to deny. They have not denied the LC. But just gave them the option of withdrawing and refiling under perm. If not then they would deny the applications. Supposedly they said you dont need foreign workers blah blah blah.... I need to get some details properly from the lawyer. This happened this morning so its all been quite a mess. I dont think i will get any more details till monday.
and u all know how much the lawyers are willing to tell us........
 
zlegion

What can you tell us about your company? Since this looks like it may be related to your company's geographical location OR fact that there were layoffs in the recent past for similar positions as yourself.... etc.

Your information may help those of us in similar circumstances to be more prepared.
I am sorry for your loss, although if your company refiles under PERM you may end up being a winner instead of loser (especially if you are now eligible for EB2 and your current application was not)

thanks -
 
Hey Dude,

Don't feel depressed.There must be something your lawyer might have goofed up for all the applications of your company and they found that in BEC.But the BEC could have issued a NOF...

Anyways, re-filing under PERM might be a better idea and if you are filing in EB2,you may be in luck!!

Sorry to hear this,hope things straighten up for you and your colleagues.

Keep us posted.



zlegion said:
hi spidey,
Ur right. They did tell the lawyer about intent to deny. They have not denied the LC. But just gave them the option of withdrawing and refiling under perm. If not then they would deny the applications. Supposedly they said you dont need foreign workers blah blah blah.... I need to get some details properly from the lawyer. This happened this morning so its all been quite a mess. I dont think i will get any more details till monday.
and u all know how much the lawyers are willing to tell us........
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rsiv said:
Hi

A national daily news reporter contacted me to cover our issues. Please contact me if you are inserted to share your problems with the reporter..
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Hi Rsiv,

Please let me quote letter I sent in "Raise awareness" forum a few weeks ago. I guess it
may interest reporter as it shows that not only immigrants are suffering from backlog.
I apologise for the off-topic; couldn't figure out how to PM you.

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Backlog hurts *native* U.S. workers first

The LC backlog and visa retrogression binds immigrant to an employer
and a job for a few years. Let me explain how this reduces salaries
of native U.S. employees and decrease number of jobs available to them.

First, backlog puts immigrant in a very weak negotiating position when
discussing salary. Quitting usually means loss of priority date, or even
legal status if H-1B was extended beyond 6 years, so immigrant applied
for GC is unlikely to leave. This makes GC applicants accept lower
salaries than they deserve and drives average salaries in industry down;
therefore affecting salaries of native U.S. workers

Another consequence of weak negotiating position of an immigrant is
that it allows employer to hire less people. There is no reason to open
additional job positions when GC applicants can be "asked" to work
12 hours and on weekends.

The lengthy GC process pins an immigrant to a single job making him/her
overqualified for the position. This backfires on native U.S. workers.
To be competitive in job market now natives have to demonstrate higher
skills and experience than they would have to should GC applicant be
allowed to move up in career ladder and free up the job.

Finally, multi-year backlog prevents immigrants from starting their own
companies and creating jobs for native U.S. workers. Quite a few high-tech
companis were co-founded by people from abroad.
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I donot quite agree ...

H1 is supposed to be temporary worker ...
with intention to stay ...
but after your H1 is expired , we should all leave ...
The government is giving extention . They can just say NO !

I do not see the reason for the salary . And to apply for the LC/GreenCard, dont you need to meet the salary requirment ?

Regarding starting a company, that is only few people can or will do that ...

If you want to stay in the US, you have to follow the rule.

At least, we are in a better place than most of other countries ...
Also, other countires do not tolerate foreigners like ...
And that is why we want to immigrate here !

This is what I realized after years of waiting .
Just need to be patient ..

:)




cacheline said:
Hi Rsiv,

Please let me quote letter I sent in "Raise awareness" forum a few weeks ago. I guess it
may interest reporter as it shows that not only immigrants are suffering from backlog.
I apologise for the off-topic; couldn't figure out how to PM you.

--------------------
Backlog hurts *native* U.S. workers first

The LC backlog and visa retrogression binds immigrant to an employer
and a job for a few years. Let me explain how this reduces salaries
of native U.S. employees and decrease number of jobs available to them.

First, backlog puts immigrant in a very weak negotiating position when
discussing salary. Quitting usually means loss of priority date, or even
legal status if H-1B was extended beyond 6 years, so immigrant applied
for GC is unlikely to leave. This makes GC applicants accept lower
salaries than they deserve and drives average salaries in industry down;
therefore affecting salaries of native U.S. workers

Another consequence of weak negotiating position of an immigrant is
that it allows employer to hire less people. There is no reason to open
additional job positions when GC applicants can be "asked" to work
12 hours and on weekends.

The lengthy GC process pins an immigrant to a single job making him/her
overqualified for the position. This backfires on native U.S. workers.
To be competitive in job market now natives have to demonstrate higher
skills and experience than they would have to should GC applicant be
allowed to move up in career ladder and free up the job.

Finally, multi-year backlog prevents immigrants from starting their own
companies and creating jobs for native U.S. workers. Quite a few high-tech
companis were co-founded by people from abroad.
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rsiv said:
Hi

A national daily news reporter contacted me to cover our issues. Please contact me if you are inserted to share your problems with the reporter. The idea is to cover different issues impacting work, economy, life and publish the issues for wide audience.

Some of these efforts will definitely help. I contacted my company and lawyer, they are happy to share information and also add few comments to stress the issues.

In case If you are not interested, please ignore this request and kindly do not start any -ve discussions on this topic.
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I'm willing to share my story. I can write it up in an email and send it to you. Can you give me your email address. Or email me .
Thanks
 
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