daffodil85
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If they cancel Green Card Lottery, the American Dream will become a myth. I don't think they can afford it. Don't be afraid. Sign the petition.
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People who were selected for DV 2012 (IMPORTANT)
- Thread starter keona
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CraigToomy
Banned
I just did as well. Signed as "Jesus Christ".You should sign the petition if you want your vote to be counted. It's free (donation is voluntary). I just did. This whole process can take time, but I believe we can make them hear us.
daffodil85
Registered Users (C)
haha, hope He is on our side, only then we can win!
daffodil85
Registered Users (C)
I know of other ways, but they are not applicable to many people who just have their High School Diploma.
BengsBengs
Registered Users (C)
i think exactly like daffodi85 exactly... every single word you say
daffodil85
Registered Users (C)
Thank you BengsBengs. I am sure there are lots of people who think what we are saying here is correct. Let's make this thread a supportive one to all the void dv 2012 selectees. People who don't want to support us and think different, please create a new thread where you can discuss your fears about US govt possible canceling of GC lottery.
When did you apply? (Try to remember and share with rest of the people please)
Let me start:
I have submitted my form on October 5th and have been selected, also applied 5 different forms for my family members (Apart from me, no one were selected)
I'm never going to believe that software had error: because before any software is used it's being tested. Us Government definitely have tested this software.
Please share your story, maybe we can find truth all together.
Thank you!!!
Did you know the number of people who applied on 5 and 6? Do you expect anyone who applied on those two days to win? It's not possible since more than 1 million may have applied on those 2 days. Even if they have to select the whole 100,000 from the 2 days, not everyone will win.
Just a little math for you
Over 14 million applied for the lottery during the 30 days period. If you find simple average, it means about 500,000 applications in a day. How could you say it was random since it was not everyone who applied on those days that won?
daffodil85
Registered Users (C)
Did you know the number of people who applied on 5 and 6? Do you expect anyone who applied on those two days to win? It's not possible since more than 1 million may have applied on those 2 days. Even if they have to select the whole 100,000 from the 2 days, not everyone will win.
Just a little math for you
Over 14 million applied for the lottery during the 30 days period. If you find simple average, it means about 500,000 applications in a day. How could you say it was random since it was not everyone who applied on those days that won?
You didn't make yourself clear. Are you saying it was a random selection
or it wasn't?
I am thankful to God that I am in a blessed country of Canada and whatever happens I'll be fine, maybe even better than if I moved to US. But think of all the people who are in less prosperous countries and who truly needed this chance to have a better life. This was their chance and it was taken away from them. How is that?
Think of all the people in less prosperous countries and who truly needed this chance but were denied it because of a faulty program.. their chance was taken away from them as well. Think logically and fairly, leave out the emotion.
daffodil85
Registered Users (C)
well, I AM thinking logically. Those people who were not selected in the first place knew about their 50/50 chances. So when they found out their results most of them thought oh well, I hope I win next year. But those who were notified were overjoyed and stayed assured that they were given this chance as
God's gift or destiny's gift (depends on people's faith). So how could this gift be taken back??? Do you have an answer?
God's gift or destiny's gift (depends on people's faith). So how could this gift be taken back??? Do you have an answer?
It's amazing how all of a sudden folks who were eager to apply for the DV lottery now talk of it being the only avenue for people with just high school diplomas and who have no other options or that they live in a foreign country already so it's no problem to them if they don't win. Some have even expressed that the DV should be cancelled. My question is how long have you guys known that DV is for those that have no other option, so why then if you have other options do you apply?
People we need to stop, pretty soon trolls will use this opportunity to bring down this site like many before.
People we need to stop, pretty soon trolls will use this opportunity to bring down this site like many before.
well, I AM thinking logically. Those people who were not selected in the first place knew about their 50/50 chances. So when they found out their results most of them thought oh well, I hope I win next year. But those who were notified were overjoyed and stayed assured that they were given this chance as
God's gift or destiny's gift (depends on people's faith). So how could this gift be taken back??? Do you have an answer?
Everyone who applied during the registration period was not given an EQUAL chance because of a FLAW in the program. This has been said time and time again, what don't you understand about that? Do you not care how you were given this gift, whether it was legally or not? An error was corrected the best way they saw fit, they took a whole week to make the decision, don't you think that they had consulted with the powers that be and came up with the best decision?
I do not think that you are thinking logically, you are disappointed as expected but this should not cloud your judgement.
You didn't make yourself clear. Are you saying it was a random selection
or it wasn't?
It wasn't a random selection. I know a friend who applied for himself, wife, his cousin and the the cousin's wife on the same day and they all won (Oct 6). If you read the lottery instructions, it says that ' qualified electronic entry submitted by an applicant has an equal chance of being randomly selected by the computer at the KCC during the period of registration,' so picking over 90,000 winners on the first two days is not random.
daffodil85
Registered Users (C)
sonibago, you put unfinished ideas together and made a confusion of all that has been said on this thread. Basically, you are discouraging people here. And nobody 'expressed that DV should be cancelled'. Read carefully and if you want to make a helpful comment, please do so.
The same God who gave the gift may now be testing if the winners will take such a gift (knowing it was erroneously given) and not look back on his brothers who were denied an equal chance at this gift. Everyone including you will be given an equal chance come July, if this is not God's gift then I don't know what is.
daffodil85
Registered Users (C)
Everyone who applied during the registration period was not given an EQUAL chance because of a FLAW in the program. This has been said time and time again, what don't you understand about that? Do you not care how you were given this gift, whether it was legally or not? An error was corrected the best way they saw fit, they took a whole week to make the decision, don't you think that they had consulted with the powers that be and came up with the best decision?
I do not think that you are thinking logically, you are disappointed as expected but this should not cloud your judgement.
I don't believe there was a real error. The computer made selection, so whatever it was it was random, not performed by a human, that what it is! What made the govt cancel the results? Probably all the unsatisfied applicants who started to shout that only Oct 5th and 6th applicants got selected.
sonibago, you put unfinished ideas together and made a confusion of all that has been said on this thread. Basically, you are discouraging people here. And nobody 'expressed that DV should be cancelled'. Read carefully and if you want to make a helpful comment, please do so.
My ideas are well put together, you cannot see my argument because your logics are clouded by emotions. I am not discouraging anyone, I speak the facts. And yes I have seen where people say the program should be cancelled.
CraigToomy
Banned
Human has programmed the computer. And the program was incorrect. Primarily because that human is a candidate for Special Olympics.The computer made selection, so whatever it was it was random, not performed by a human
I don't believe there was a real error. The computer made selection, so whatever it was it was random, not performed by a human, that what it is! What made the govt cancel the results? Probably all the unsatisfied applicants who started to shout that only Oct 5th and 6th applicants got selected.
It is not our place to say error or not, that was announced by the DOS which is in charge of the DV Lottery. Personally I questioned the validity of the results when certain information started to come forward. I have done extensive courses in statistics and was able to spot something fishy right away, nevertheless I said nothing but looked on. Have you ever heard about garbage in, garbage out? A computer made the selections of course BUT the program that ran the selection was faulty hence a faulty result, in other words..garbage in, garbage out.