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=gc_come_to_papa

gc_come_to_papa: Kindly post your experience. What documents were needed? when did you go, how long it take? Contact person...etc It will be a great help!!!
thanks in advance.

 

[BostonCool]

Got My Surrender certificate today, after lot of pain though

wow how long it took for them to respond?

 

[ginnu]

Thanks for having answered my question. Your comments make sense. I'm quite surprised by this recent development though. I went to CGNY office just few weeks ago, and there was no mention of renunciation procedure. Perhaps the deluge of OCI applications may have prompted consulate to leverage a clause in the India Citizenship Act.

Nothing recently changed in Indian Citizenship act. They just changed visitor visa rule few months back that if one gets tourist visa for 6 months and then goes out of India then one must wait 2 months to enter again India and that made many to apply for OCI who make frequent trips to India. FYI the OCI is not only processed by NYC all the embassy/ consulates of India in different countries are processing OCI/PIO. No other Indian consulate or Embassy had created the mess that NYC has created and are creating. Mr. Prabu Dayal and Mr Bajaj should go back to India and must be replaced by competent officials from IFS (Indian Foreign Services). Mr Bajaj was nice 2 months back and now he has started shouting if one calls him may be some psychological problem.

 

[ginnu]

gc_come_to_papa
if it is joke please remove that. if it is true then post your full exp.

 

[Jan-MMII]

The form does need to be notarized because in the list on the website it has an asterisk (*) against it (just like the Nat Cert) and the corresponding footnote says that this item needs to be notarized.

Thanks for pointing it out, I missed that asterisk next to the link Form.

 

[gc_come_to_papa]

Ginnu, No Joke, i went personally, reached there, as usual the lady at counter asked me to get 3 xerox copies of application and showed me the new requirements. I took copy of indian passport of a colleague who signed it at the particular section. rushed to lexington road to get the 3 copies, gave them my indian passport , copy of naturalization, 175 cashiers check, she took my phone number and email on the form and said they will call me, since i am travelling next week, requested her to give me this evening and she asked for itneray which i had, so finally got it.

it's a letter which has your name, pasport number, fathers name address


sample attached

......
CONSULATE GENERAL OF INDIA
NEW YORK
May 13,2010
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FOR THE DECLARATION OF
RENUNCIATION OF CITIZENSHIP OF INDIA UNDER SECTION 8
OF THE CITIZENSHIP ACT, 1955
Received declaration of renunciation oflndian citizenship under
Section 8 of the Citizenship Act, 1955 from XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
along with xxx Indian Passport xxxxxx issued by xxxxxxxxxx
, which has been cancelled and returned to
the holder.


stamp and sign

 

[pb74]

.............On form they also ask that send the copy of Naturalization certificate Notarized and Notary is not going to Sign the Copy of Naturalization certificate. To get Copy Naturalization certificate one need to make Infopass with local USCIS office and it will take 15 days for the infopass.
.....
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If they just want to know the date one became US citizen then self attested copy of Naturalization certificate should be enough as it has date and year on it and nobody is going to submit fake copy of Naturalization certificate and one gets US passport on the base of Naturalization certificate. .......
Please pick up the info posted add your concerns, edit it and Email/ Fax tomorrow to all including Prabhu Dayal, Mr Bajaj Anuj Kumar, Pushpa Kumar or any email you have of NYC consulate. Make your points clear and let all the officials know about it.

Be careful how you word your email/fax. Otherwise they will come up with the requirement that one should send original naturalization certificate.

 

[gc_come_to_papa]

one more thing they asked copy of my indian passport too

 

[sarath_kumar]

one more thing they asked copy of my indian passport too

3 copies? you mean 3 copies of form XXII(1).doc

-sarath

 

[cpmumbai2002]

Did not get visa

I did not get my visa today. Not sure how long it will take. The guys at the visa office now say that it can take up to 6 days to get visa. There was one person who paid an additional $250 emergency fee and was able to get the visa issued the same day, but several others did not get the visa. I am supposed to be flying on Sunday, so I may try to go to the consulate tomorrow and see if they can do anything.

 

[junkgenious]

surrender certificate

I really appreciate if someone can answer my query.
1.Do we have to pay $175 fee for each minor children as well?
2.I didn't apply for their naturalization certificate yet.Per US law, minor children can aply for passport based on parents naturalization certificate.How can we make sure these baffoons aware of this and don't insist for kids naturalization certificate which costs couple of hundreds of dollars?
3.What are they going to for the aplications already in process?
4.If we need to apply for surrender certificate for kids, who needs to sign the form? kids or parents?

one more thing they asked copy of my indian passport too

 

[ginnu]

I really appreciate if someone can answer my query.
1.Do we have to pay $175 fee for each minor children as well?
----- Yes-if child had Indian passport.
2.I didn't apply for their naturalization certificate yet.Per US law, minor children can aply for passport based on parents naturalization certificate.How can we make sure these baffoons aware of this and don't insist for kids naturalization certificate which costs couple of hundreds of dollars?
--go to USCIS site and search the info and take the prinout and Let them know and explain to them on cover letter.
3.What are they going to for the aplications already in process?
-----Nobody at this time knows. What they should do is once OCI gets Granted and Printed from Delhi and sent to NYC and then one wants go for Pck up OCI or Mail the US passport and Indian passport to collect OCI at that time they should ask for $175 and the Form so they can give you OCI , surrender certificate and U visa in US passport. It will save time for them. I dont know what Plan they have.
4.If we need to apply for surrender certificate for kids, who needs to sign the form? kids or parents?
--------------If kids cant sign it should be signed by Parents or Thumb print of Kids ,I dont know what they will need as Mess is still going on.

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[ginnu]

I did not get my visa today. Not sure how long it will take. The guys at the visa office now say that it can take up to 6 days to get visa. There was one person who paid an additional $250 emergency fee and was able to get the visa issued the same day, but several others did not get the visa. I am supposed to be flying on Sunday, so I may try to go to the consulate tomorrow and see if they can do anything.

Please go to them and inform them the problems faced by others:
DECLARATION OF RENUNCIATION OF CITIZENSHIP UNDER SECTION 8 OF THE CITIZENSHIP ACT 1955
http://indiacgny.org/php/showForms.php?linkid=104&partid=96&sub=sub2
Inform them that above form after ITEM 4 has item 6 and it should be 5 after 4 and then after 5 should be 6. Teach them Mathematics.
Also inform them that to make Copy of Naturalization certificate is illegal and no Noary will sign that. If they want to know when person got Naturalized then the Certificate copy has date on it and one can Sign “True Copy” and can sign and they can match the signature on Copy of Naturalization certificate, on US passport and Indian passport and on the form.
update us after your visit.
Good Luck!!

 

[ginnu]

Be careful how you word your email/fax. Otherwise they will come up with the requirement that one should send original naturalization certificate.

Please go to them and inform them the problems faced by others:
DECLARATION OF RENUNCIATION OF CITIZENSHIP UNDER SECTION 8 OF THE CITIZENSHIP ACT 1955
http://indiacgny.org/php/showForms.p...id=96&sub=sub2
Inform them that above form after ITEM 4 has item 6 and it should be 5 after 4 and then after 5 should be 6. Teach them Mathematics.
Also inform them that to make Copy of Naturalization certificate is illegal and no Notary will sign that. If they want to know when person got Naturalized then the Certificate copy has date on it and one can Sign “True Copy” and they can match the signature on Copy of Naturalization certificate, on US passport and Indian passport and on the form.

 

[ginnu]

Ginnu, No Joke, i went personally, reached there, as usual the lady at counter asked me to get 3 xerox copies of application and showed me the new requirements.
-------what time you reached and at what window number? did you go to OCI window, How much was crowd at OCI counter or Window?
I took copy of indian passport of a colleague who signed it at the particular section. rushed to lexington road to get the 3 copies, gave them my indian passport ,

copy of naturalization

-----------Notarized copy or plain copy ?
, 175 cashiers check, she took my phone number and email on the form and said they will call me, since i am travelling next week, requested her to give me this evening and she asked for itneray which i had, so finally got it.
-------------- you got it only surrender certificate or your OCI cards also? or you wanted surrender certificate certificate for applying Visa?

it's a letter which has your name, pasport number, fathers name address


sample attached

......
CONSULATE GENERAL OF INDIA
NEW YORK
May 13,2010
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FOR THE DECLARATION OF
RENUNCIATION OF CITIZENSHIP OF INDIA UNDER SECTION 8
OF THE CITIZENSHIP ACT, 1955
Received declaration of renunciation oflndian citizenship under
Section 8 of the Citizenship Act, 1955 from XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
along with xxx Indian Passport xxxxxx issued by xxxxxxxxxx
, which has been cancelled and returned to
the holder.


stamp and sign

---------------Thanks for the help and it seems you went with old form where they wanted Signature of Indian Citizen and Copy of Indian Citizen Passport.
If you have any other info/details please post as it will help others and many are facing problems.

 

[SPKS]

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[ginnu]

According to my guess the Indian consulate just wants to know when you were naturalized (if more then 3 years then PENALITY). If one signs the notarization certificate copy and US passport is also signed and Indian passport is also signed and Form is also signed then the entire signature will match. Why they need the "certified true copy" of Naturalization Certificate? NYC just posted they need Copy to be NOTRIZED and we know Notary is not going to notarize. I request you to remove the post from other person from Thailand Embassy and if the NYC read that they will say bring that and will take 1-2 months for many and 1 day off.

 

[Ishwar]

gc_come_to_papa
post more detaled infomation.

 

[brokenarrow]

I am in the same situation and have mailed them for clarification. But as Ginnu mentioned, I am positiive the answer will be "YES". But also like Ginnu mentioned , why would we care now? I got the Indian PP Cancelled and I do not check the NY CGI website anymore .... you get the drift right?

I've already obtained my OCI card from CGNY office. A cancellation stamp has been placed in my Indian passport. Am I required to follow the renunciation procedure too?

 

[ginnu]

I am in the same situation and have mailed them for clarification. But as Ginnu mentioned, I am positiive the answer will be "YES". But also like Ginnu mentioned , why would we care now? I got the Indian PP Cancelled and I do not check the NY CGI website anymore .... you get the drift right?

This can be a simple process. When one files the OCI one writes his full information on Online OCI registration site and that includes Indian passport number also (if not they can add that to online printout) and that record goes to MHA Delhi. One takes the printout and submits for OCI. When the MHA has info about person they can update passport database that particular passport holder applied OCI and Indian passport number XXXXXX is cancelled and bureau of Immigration India has access to that data. When you enter India or depart India they put the information of Passports. In the system and check the information at immigration counter before you take a flight or you enter India. This comedy is just to get money and harassment to Person of India origins who want to get OCI/PIO/Visa. First you were harassed at Indian airports now they started from US so that one can’t enjoy his/her trip to India and it is a Rehearsal of harassment drama before going to India so that you don’t feel much pain when you land in India as you have gone through Rehearsal of harassment drama and at Indian Airports you will perform better because you had completed Rehearsal of harassment drama in US. For Rehearsal of harassment drama you are going to pay them.