Guys, I have not got my SC. It is almost three weeks +. I should blame my self for sending SC and OCI in same mail...anyways, nothing can be done just wait for SC and send it back to OCI cell and till that time i'm saying it to myself "All izzz well".......If anyone planning to send SC and OCI together think twice but it is your personnel choice to do it. Bunch of jokers running the Indian consulate in New York.
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I feel your pain because I am in the exact same boat. I also was duped by their false info that you could apply for both SC and OCI together and I only applied just only last week. People should NOT apply for both SC and OCI together ... there is no personal choice coming into play here, you just can't do it unless you want your OCI to be held up. It's amazing that they still have not corrected that false info on the SC application instructions.
We also need some tracker for the SC timeline and the OCI timeline.
Issue is that neither Ministry of External Affairs nor Ministry of Home Affairs control the content of these web sites. Every Mission office maintains their own web sites. Hence, whom ever incharge of consular Division interprets differently and issues instructtions and change by hour when someone above them asks them to change. It is hight time Ministry should standardize and make it uniform like US State Dept hosts their Embassy sites. If you search, you will notice some are dot org, some dot com etc.
I didn't get a response yet because it only reached them last Friday but I fully expect to hear from the OCI cell saying that my OCI application is lacking the SC. Kat999 got an email stating this and when Kat999 contacted them by phone, you can read the details in that link I posted a few messages above.
I started a new tracker thread for SC and OCI applications, feel free to add your details to that.
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esskaybos1
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OCI Status
Folks,
Does anyone have the below experience?
Photo/Signature "Rejected". What it means? Do i need to re-submit the application again? What's Next? Any info is much appreciated.
Registration Status : Granted On 21-JUL-2010
Photo/Signature Rejected On 23-JUL-2010
Documents Printing Status NOT PRINTED
Documents Dispatched to Concerned Mission/Office on NOT DISPATCHED
Documents Received at NEW YORK CGI NOT YET
Thanks,
Esskay.
Folks,
Does anyone have the below experience?
Photo/Signature "Rejected". What it means? Do i need to re-submit the application again? What's Next? Any info is much appreciated.
Registration Status : Granted On 21-JUL-2010
Photo/Signature Rejected On 23-JUL-2010
Documents Printing Status NOT PRINTED
Documents Dispatched to Concerned Mission/Office on NOT DISPATCHED
Documents Received at NEW YORK CGI NOT YET
Thanks,
Esskay.
This is the email I got from NY Consulate.....10 days ago
Reference your application for OCI status. During the scrutiny of the application, it has been noticed that your Indian passport is valid until 15 August 2010. You are advised to get your Indian passport cancelled immediately. The passport will be cancelled by the Consulate General of India, New York (see procedure on our website: www.indiacgny.org) and a cancellation certificate will be issued. Thereafter, you may submit a copy of the cancellation certificate to enable us to take further action on your OCI applications. Till that time, the application will remain on hold.
Reference your application for OCI status. During the scrutiny of the application, it has been noticed that your Indian passport is valid until 15 August 2010. You are advised to get your Indian passport cancelled immediately. The passport will be cancelled by the Consulate General of India, New York (see procedure on our website: www.indiacgny.org) and a cancellation certificate will be issued. Thereafter, you may submit a copy of the cancellation certificate to enable us to take further action on your OCI applications. Till that time, the application will remain on hold.
I took the expert advice of this forum and just applied for SC only. Not sure how long this process is going to be. Not sure if you guys saw but CG NY is organizing an OCI camp this friday. Kat999, are you around that area. That might be the time to straighten your process out.
javagal srinath
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Thanks JPBoston for the information. This site has been very helpful especially having members like you posting valuable information all the time.
No, the CG NY guys are lucky that i'm not close to NY, other wise I would have gone daily in morning before going to the office and remind them that they need to process SC and OCI together.
You're welcome, javagal. We're all in this thing together and I'd hate to see someone else get screwed up like me by the CGI-NY who just cannot get their act together. I try to give back where I can to this forum that helped me immensely on my own N-400 and now OCI journey.
Collected our OCIs last week
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We went to CGI-NY last week to collect our OCIs. Little bit of background info before going into details, I got a call from CGI-NY on 6/7 asking for revised fee $20 for SC, I sent them MO on the same day, meanwhile our OCI documents reached CGI-NY on 6/12, I thought of collecting OCI in person after receiving cancelled passports and SC back from CGI. I waited for more than a month and still no word from them, so finally decided to go to NYC to collect OCI and try to get cancelled passports and original MO ($175) back.
Guard at the entrance to basement cellar opened the gate around 9 am, told us we didn’t need a token for enquiry about SC, just handed us a single page enquiry form. We filled in the SC enquiry form, handed it to the guard, he told us to come back at 11 am. Meanwhile we dropped off our US passports and printout of online status page at the OCI counter, we were asked to come back at 1 pm.
SC and cancelled passports: they called us back to the counter around 11 am, handed us the cancelled passports, original MO $175, and the SC (one copy of notarized application with some number scribbled on it and some clown signed it in green ink). But here is the surprise part, they mailed our SC almost a month ago but USPS returned it as undeliverable. Why – these morons missed street name and number on the address label, and they never bothered why it was returned back. This could be a genuine human error but I think it’s not a bad idea to include self addressed USPS express mail labels when you expect something back from them.
OCI: The same clown who collected US passports in the morning came back at 1 pm and announced that their system was down, we had to come back the next day. One elderly lady who was there to collect her OCI took the charge, made sure they felt our displeasure, got them to promise to deliver OCIs on the same day – thank you madam, god bless you.
Here is the interesting part – the same moron who collected US passports at OCI counter started distributing OCIs in the afternoon. There were around 100 passports to be distributed, he could have called by name and distributed all in less than 10 minutes … No, he does the same thing again … for each and every one approaching the counter he searches through all passports to find that one passport. How many times have we read here when other posters complained about the same inefficient process? Now I am 1000% convinced, for these consulate guys this is not about not knowing the right way to do, this is DELIBERATE, they don’t want to improve the process, they want to pretend like working hard while doing as little work as possible, this moron doesn’t want to complete distribution in 10 minutes, he wants to spend 120 minutes, its DELIBERATE
Look at the subzi-mundi style receipts they give us, once the fee is separated from the application they don’t want any accountability or ability to find who paid for what service, that’s the best way to keep the corruption going, I think this is the reason for their no-refund policy, once MO/Check is separated from the application there is no way to find out who paid for what service, numbers scribbled on subzi-mundi receipts is all garbage.
More rant and less useful information
We went to CGI-NY last week to collect our OCIs. Little bit of background info before going into details, I got a call from CGI-NY on 6/7 asking for revised fee $20 for SC, I sent them MO on the same day, meanwhile our OCI documents reached CGI-NY on 6/12, I thought of collecting OCI in person after receiving cancelled passports and SC back from CGI. I waited for more than a month and still no word from them, so finally decided to go to NYC to collect OCI and try to get cancelled passports and original MO ($175) back.
Guard at the entrance to basement cellar opened the gate around 9 am, told us we didn’t need a token for enquiry about SC, just handed us a single page enquiry form. We filled in the SC enquiry form, handed it to the guard, he told us to come back at 11 am. Meanwhile we dropped off our US passports and printout of online status page at the OCI counter, we were asked to come back at 1 pm.
SC and cancelled passports: they called us back to the counter around 11 am, handed us the cancelled passports, original MO $175, and the SC (one copy of notarized application with some number scribbled on it and some clown signed it in green ink). But here is the surprise part, they mailed our SC almost a month ago but USPS returned it as undeliverable. Why – these morons missed street name and number on the address label, and they never bothered why it was returned back. This could be a genuine human error but I think it’s not a bad idea to include self addressed USPS express mail labels when you expect something back from them.
OCI: The same clown who collected US passports in the morning came back at 1 pm and announced that their system was down, we had to come back the next day. One elderly lady who was there to collect her OCI took the charge, made sure they felt our displeasure, got them to promise to deliver OCIs on the same day – thank you madam, god bless you.
Here is the interesting part – the same moron who collected US passports at OCI counter started distributing OCIs in the afternoon. There were around 100 passports to be distributed, he could have called by name and distributed all in less than 10 minutes … No, he does the same thing again … for each and every one approaching the counter he searches through all passports to find that one passport. How many times have we read here when other posters complained about the same inefficient process? Now I am 1000% convinced, for these consulate guys this is not about not knowing the right way to do, this is DELIBERATE, they don’t want to improve the process, they want to pretend like working hard while doing as little work as possible, this moron doesn’t want to complete distribution in 10 minutes, he wants to spend 120 minutes, its DELIBERATE
Look at the subzi-mundi style receipts they give us, once the fee is separated from the application they don’t want any accountability or ability to find who paid for what service, that’s the best way to keep the corruption going, I think this is the reason for their no-refund policy, once MO/Check is separated from the application there is no way to find out who paid for what service, numbers scribbled on subzi-mundi receipts is all garbage.
preethi.mca
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Jan-MMII
Can you let me know what documents you had to bring with you to collect your OCIS and get your PPs stamped?
Can you let me know what documents you had to bring with you to collect your OCIS and get your PPs stamped?
More rant and less useful information
We went to CGI-NY last week to collect our OCIs. Little bit of background info before going into details, I got a call from CGI-NY on 6/7 asking for revised fee $20 for SC, I sent them MO on the same day, meanwhile our OCI documents reached CGI-NY on 6/12, I thought of collecting OCI in person after receiving cancelled passports and SC back from CGI. I waited for more than a month and still no word from them, so finally decided to go to NYC to collect OCI and try to get cancelled passports and original MO ($175) back.
Guard at the entrance to basement cellar opened the gate around 9 am, told us we didn’t need a token for enquiry about SC, just handed us a single page enquiry form. We filled in the SC enquiry form, handed it to the guard, he told us to come back at 11 am. Meanwhile we dropped off our US passports and printout of online status page at the OCI counter, we were asked to come back at 1 pm.
SC and cancelled passports: they called us back to the counter around 11 am, handed us the cancelled passports, original MO $175, and the SC (one copy of notarized application with some number scribbled on it and some clown signed it in green ink). But here is the surprise part, they mailed our SC almost a month ago but USPS returned it as undeliverable. Why – these morons missed street name and number on the address label, and they never bothered why it was returned back. This could be a genuine human error but I think it’s not a bad idea to include self addressed USPS express mail labels when you expect something back from them.
OCI: The same clown who collected US passports in the morning came back at 1 pm and announced that their system was down, we had to come back the next day. One elderly lady who was there to collect her OCI took the charge, made sure they felt our displeasure, got them to promise to deliver OCIs on the same day – thank you madam, god bless you.
Here is the interesting part – the same moron who collected US passports at OCI counter started distributing OCIs in the afternoon. There were around 100 passports to be distributed, he could have called by name and distributed all in less than 10 minutes … No, he does the same thing again … for each and every one approaching the counter he searches through all passports to find that one passport. How many times have we read here when other posters complained about the same inefficient process? Now I am 1000% convinced, for these consulate guys this is not about not knowing the right way to do, this is DELIBERATE, they don’t want to improve the process, they want to pretend like working hard while doing as little work as possible, this moron doesn’t want to complete distribution in 10 minutes, he wants to spend 120 minutes, its DELIBERATE
Look at the subzi-mundi style receipts they give us, once the fee is separated from the application they don’t want any accountability or ability to find who paid for what service, that’s the best way to keep the corruption going, I think this is the reason for their no-refund policy, once MO/Check is separated from the application there is no way to find out who paid for what service, numbers scribbled on subzi-mundi receipts is all garbage.
Be careful with NY Indian Consulate
Guys,
To day they returned my SC application,certified checks says I did not enclose the Indian passport. I did send the Indian passport in the same mail and I think they misplaced somewhere and I have no clue what to do now. Why don't Indian consulate hire some educated people. I'm so frustated with CGNY way of working. How do I track my Indian passport? Do i need to file a police complaint against CGNY that they misplace my passport? or Hire a lawyer to deal with these guys.
Guys,
To day they returned my SC application,certified checks says I did not enclose the Indian passport. I did send the Indian passport in the same mail and I think they misplaced somewhere and I have no clue what to do now. Why don't Indian consulate hire some educated people. I'm so frustated with CGNY way of working. How do I track my Indian passport? Do i need to file a police complaint against CGNY that they misplace my passport? or Hire a lawyer to deal with these guys.
Just a printout of online status page and original US passports, nothing else.
You don't have to stand in the line to collect OCIs, you can directly go to the OCI counter
This is terrible. You need to complain and raise as much hell as possible with the Consulate General, the Indian Ambassador in Wash DC about this. You need to categorically assert that you had submitted the passport along with your entire SC application and tracked its arrival at the CGI-NY. You must state that the CGI-NY lost your passport at their office and are now claiming that you did not submit it. File this as a complaint with the Indian ambassador and state that the inefficiencies in how the CGI-NY is run is the real reason for the lost passport.
They make you jump through hoops, fleece you for getting a worthless piece of paper saying you are no longer an Indian citizen when you already are not one and then lose your old passport in the process while claiming you never sent it to them. How f*cking convenient for them. Their lack of organization and total incompetence has lead to you being screwed on this. These people are damn morons and I just pray they somehow get my own documents processed somehow without any further issues than they have already caused for me.
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Sorry for you. Only option for you now is to file a report with your local Police and get a copy of the report. I assume you have copies of your passport. If so you can send copies of the Police Report and send it along with OCI Application. Or you may try to go this Friday (Open house) to confront them.
Thanks for your support guys. I have no words to say about these guys, I sent a email to head post master (Deputy Council general) and he forwarded the mail to his staff that is the reason I call these guys mail man they do nothing but just forward the emails to their staff and no action or enquiry. I'm not sure I can sue these guys and set them straight so that no American Indians will face this issues in future. Instead of taking a day off I can pay that money and easily hire a lawyer to take care of these lazy guys. Somebody in earlier post mentioned that they issue Subzi Mandi receipts. Yes he is right, the notice i received is taken out of a trash can and mailed it to me, I hate to keep that letter in a safe as it looks like a piece of used toilet paper. These guys don't change their attitude or working style.
Well. That's great if we could sue them. Unfortunately we cannot sue the Foreign Mission and they know it. We can sue them in Indian courts but you know...