Misdemeanors & Citizenship

unsure50

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I need some help form the gurus in this forum..

I am getting ready to apply for my citizenship and am little concerned by certain events from my past. Actually 2 events

In 2001, I got convicted for Reckless Driving ( 84 in 55) in Virginia. At that time I thought it was just a traffic ticket and did not think a lot about it. But it turns out that it's actually a Class 1 Misdemeanor in Virginia (punishable with a maximum 1 yr jail and $1000). My fine at the time was only $147 and had no idea the misdemeanor part.

Second event happened in 2007. I got pulled over for suspected dui and in the end plead guilt to Reckless Driving in California - another Misdemeanor offense (court date was in early 2008). I was sentenced to 3 yrs informal probation. I got the probation terminated and the record expunged (I'm aware that it expungement makes no difference as far as uscis is concerned) in early 2010.

Besides these two events I do have other traffic offences (as in speeding)..

Got my GC in 2008 and planning to apply next month.. How worried should I be? Should I wait longer to apply? :confused:

Thanks in advance for your help.
 
What are your REAL concerns?

I need some help form the gurus in this forum..

I am getting ready to apply for my citizenship and am little concerned by certain events from my past. Actually 2 events

In 2001, I got convicted for Reckless Driving ( 84 in 55) in Virginia. At that time I thought it was just a traffic ticket and did not think a lot about it. But it turns out that it's actually a Class 1 Misdemeanor in Virginia (punishable with a maximum 1 yr jail and $1000). My fine at the time was only $147 and had no idea the misdemeanor part.

Second event happened in 2007. I got pulled over for suspected dui and in the end plead guilt to Reckless Driving in California - another Misdemeanor offense (court date was in early 2008). I was sentenced to 3 yrs informal probation. I got the probation terminated and the record expunged (I'm aware that it expungement makes no difference as far as uscis is concerned) in early 2010.

Besides these two events I do have other traffic offences (as in speeding)..

Got my GC in 2008 and planning to apply next month.. How worried should I be? Should I wait longer to apply? :confused:

Thanks in advance for your help.


As you have posted in a citizenship area, it is a safe assumption that you are talking about filing am N-400. Is that correct?

Based on the timeline, the N-400 will be based on marriage to a USC. Is that correct?

Also, based on the timeline, your worst offenses were a part of the record during the greencard processing. Is that correct?

The real issues are:

Did you fully disclose all the information to USCIS previously at the time of processing the I-485? (I don't really see someone who is going through Consular Processing being in a position to be arrested inside the U.S. for these screw-ups.)

Did you have to go through a period of conditional status and file an I-751? If yes, was this all addressed at that time?

Is the marriage viable?

And the BIGGEST elephant in the room is:

What other vital/critical/important information are you forgetting to mention?

Lastly, was such omission by mistake or on purpose?
 
I need some help form the gurus in this forum..

I am getting ready to apply for my citizenship and am little concerned by certain events from my past. Actually 2 events

In 2001, I got convicted for Reckless Driving ( 84 in 55) in Virginia. At that time I thought it was just a traffic ticket and did not think a lot about it. But it turns out that it's actually a Class 1 Misdemeanor in Virginia (punishable with a maximum 1 yr jail and $1000). My fine at the time was only $147 and had no idea the misdemeanor part.

Second event happened in 2007. I got pulled over for suspected dui and in the end plead guilt to Reckless Driving in California - another Misdemeanor offense (court date was in early 2008). I was sentenced to 3 yrs informal probation. I got the probation terminated and the record expunged (I'm aware that it expungement makes no difference as far as uscis is concerned) in early 2010.

Besides these two events I do have other traffic offences (as in speeding)..

Got my GC in 2008 and planning to apply next month.. How worried should I be? Should I wait longer to apply? :confused:

Thanks in advance for your help.
You'll need to disclose and provide court documents of both incidences. Consult a good lawyer to go over your reckless driving case in California to determine whether it qualifies as a CIMT.
 
Reckless driving is not a CMT.
You have to wait until you complete your sentences for applying for naturalization, but 3 years since early 2008 already expired.
 
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CIMT is a tricky call to make...

Reckless driving is not a CMT.
You have to wait until you complete your sentences for applying for naturalization, but 3 years since early 2008 already expired.

SEE: http://www.justice.gov/eoir/vll/intdec/vol24/3631.pdf

Matter of Silva-Trevino 24 I&N Dec. 687 (A.G. 2008) held:


(1) To determine whether a conviction is for a crime involving moral turpitude, immigration
judges and the Board of Immigration Appeals should: (1) look to the statute of
conviction under the categorical inquiry and determine whether there is a “realistic
probability” that the State or Federal criminal statute pursuant to which the alien was
convicted would be applied to reach conduct that does not involve moral turpitude; (2) if
the categorical inquiry does not resolve the question, engage in a modified categorical
inquiry and examine the record of conviction, including documents such as the
indictment, the judgment of conviction, jury instructions, a signed guilty plea, and the
plea transcript; and (3) if the record of conviction is inconclusive, consider any additional
evidence deemed necessary or appropriate to resolve accurately the moral turpitude
question.

(2) It is proper to make a categorical finding that a defendant’s conduct involves moral
turpitude when that conduct results in conviction on the charge of intentional sexual
contact with a person the defendant knew or should have known was a child.

(3) To qualify as a crime involving moral turpitude for purposes of the Immigration and
Nationality Act, a crime must involve both reprehensible conduct and some degree of
scienter, whether specific intent, deliberateness, willfulness, or recklessness.


This decision is being challenged but it is too soon to tell what the final answer will be.
 
To qualify as a crime involving moral turpitude for purposes of the Immigration and
Nationality Act, a crime must involve both reprehensible conduct and some degree of
scienter, whether specific intent, deliberateness, willfulness, or recklessness.

clearly involve reprehensible conduct which is contrary to the accepted rules of morality

So, because reckless driving does not have any elements of reprehensible conduct, it is not considered a CMT. The idea of moral turpitude is when you are guilty in something immoral. Recklessness could mean guilty, and reprehensible conduct means immoral.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86942.pdf points to reckless driving as to a crime that does not have any elements of reprehensible conduct.

b. Crimes committed against governmental authority, which would not constitute moral turpitude for visa-issuance purposes, are, in general, violation of laws which are regulatory in character and which do not
involve the element of fraud or other evil intent. The following list assumes that the statutes involved do not require the showing of an intent to defraud, or evil intent:
.......
(6) Drunk or reckless driving;
 
A first offense puts a person "on notice" that a particular act is wrong, even if it was mere reckless behavior. A repetition of the same act is not treated as leniently as it is something that the person was already aware was unacceptable. This changes the analysis.
 
Are you talking about this?

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86948.pdf

9 FAM 40.22 N1 APPLYING INA 212(a)(2)(B)
(CT:VISA-838; 09-19-2006)
Any alien convicted of two or more offenses (other than purely political offenses), regardless of whether the conviction was in a single trial or whether the offenses arose from a single scheme of misconduct and regardless of whether the offenses involved moral turpitude, for which the aggregate sentences to confinement were five years or more is inadmissible

he has less than 5 years total, even if probation counts as a confinement (which does not).
 
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Determining if something is a CIMT is not always straight-forward. Some seemingly minor offenses are CIMTs. It is not a settled matter.

Matter of RUIZ-LOPEZ, 25 I&N Dec. 551 (BIA 2011)

(1) The offense of driving a vehicle in a manner indicating a wanton or willful disregard for the lives or property of others while attempting to elude a pursuing police vehicle in violation of section 46.61.024 of the Revised Code of Washington is a crime involving moral turpitude.

(2) The maximum sentence possible for an offense, rather than the standard range of sentencing under a State’s sentencing guidelines, determines an alien’s eligibility for the “petty offense” exception under section 212(a)(2)(A)(ii)(II) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(2)(A)(ii)(II) (2006).

Matter of AHORTALEJO-GUZMAN, 25 I&N Dec. 465 (BIA 2011)

Evidence outside of an alien’s record of conviction may properly be considered in determining whether the alien has been convicted of a crime involving moral turpitude only where the conviction record itself does not conclusively demonstrate whether the alien was convicted of engaging in conduct that constitutes a crime involving moral turpitude. Matter of Silva-Trevino, 24 I&N Dec. 687 (A.G. 2008), followed

Matter of Ramos, 23 I&N Dec. 336 (BIA 2002)

(1) In cases arising in circuits where the federal court of appeals has not decided whether the offense of driving under the influence is a crime of violence under 18 U.S.C. § 16(b) (2000), an offense will be considered a crime of violence if it is committed at least recklessly and involves a substantial risk that the perpetrator may resort to the use of force to carry out the crime; otherwise, where the circuit court has ruled on the issue, the law of the circuit will be applied to cases arising in that jurisdiction.

(2) The offense of operating a motor vehicle while under the influence of intoxicating liquor in violation of chapter 90, section 24(1)(a)(1) of the Massachusetts General Laws is not a felony that, by its nature, involves a substantial risk that physical force against the person or property of another may be used in the course of committing the offense and is therefore not a crime of violence. Matter of Puente, Interim Decision 3412 (BIA 1999), and Matter of Magallanes, Interim Decision 3341 (BIA 1998), overruled.

Matter of Torres-Varela, 23 I&N Dec. 78 (BIA 2001)

Under Arizona law, the offense of aggravated driving under the influence (“DUI”) with two or more prior DUI convictions is not a crime involving moral turpitude. Matter of Lopez-Meza, Interim Decision 3423 (BIA 1999), distinguished.

Lopez, 22 I&N Dec. 1188 (BIA 1999)

Under Arizona law, the offense of aggravated driving under the influence, which requires the driver to know that he or she is prohibited from driving under any circumstances, is a crime involving moral turpitude.

The simplest CIMTto discuss is theft............

Petty Theft With a Prior Under Penal Code 666

Just as there is an upside to being charged with a first-offense shoplifting offense, there is a downside to being convicted of petty theft if you have suffered a prior theft-related conviction for which you were incarcerated.

If that is the case, under California Penal Code 666 "Petty Theft with a Prior", you may face:

A maximum one-year county jail sentence (if the charge was filed as a misdemeanor), or


16 months, or two or three years in the California State Prison (if the offense was filed as a felony).


It should also be noted that petty theft poses additional problems for aliens and immigrants. Petty theft is considered a crime of "moral turpitude" for purposes of the U.S.'s policy on deportation.9

In addition, an alien or immigrant who suffers a petty theft conviction with a prior may face an "aggravated felony" for purposes of sentencing enhancements.10

Here is a particularly interesting discussion on reckless driving in Washington State:
http://www.defensenet.org/immigrati...ss Driving Practice Advisory 3-29-10.doc/view

An excerpt:

II. Possible Immigration Consequences Of A Conviction Under This Statute

A. Reckless Driving (RD) As A Crime Involving Moral Turpitude (CIMT)

Under current practice here in Washington state RD is not being charged by the government nor classified by the immigration courts as a CIMT. There is also no immigration case law finding that Reckless Driving is (or is not) a CIMT, which suggests that it is not often charged as a CIMT. However, the issue remains somewhat unclear in light of the structure of the Washington statute and recent developments in immigration caselaw.

Both the BIA and the federal courts have repeatedly held that offenses are CIMTs where they have mens rea requirements that the defendant acted intentionally or knowingly coupled with the element of causing serious harm or acting in disregard of causing serious harm. While RCW 46.61.500 is denoted as “reckless driving” the mens rea of the statute differs from 9A.08.010’s definition of recklessness. but it still contains the basic ingredient of knowing disregard of risk. Washington courts have deemed that wanton or willful disregard does not require that anyone have been in danger or was harmed, and it is arguably a higher standard of culpability than that of RCW 9A.080.010(c). Thus, there are strong arguments to assert that convictions under RCW 46.61.500 are not CIMTs, especially where a plea statement is based upon willful disregard to the safety of property .

The analysis of whether RD is a CIMT has been complicated by the Attorney General’s 2008 decision in Matter of Silva-Trevino. In Silva-Trevino the Attorney General, inter alia, purported to establish a consistent definition of the term “crime involving moral turpitude.” In so doing he stated, “[t]he hallmark of moral turpitude is a reprehensible act committed with an appreciable level of consciousness or deliberation.” The decision goes on to state, “the foregoing general definition also encompasses the many judicial precedents recognizing that crimes involving moral turpitude involve reprehensible conduct that is committed intentionally or with some other form of scienter such as willfulness or recklessness.” It also “includes crimes that have no specific act involving recognized moral turpitude, but where the crime itself causes “significant societal harm” and the defendant did it “willfully and knowingly.” Both the Silva-Trevino decision and the definition of what constitutes a CIMT continue to be the subject of much present litigation.
 
I am applying for the N400 on the basis of married to US citizen. My GC was employment based.

Neither of these incidents were mentioned on my GC application.

The first incident (2001) I thought was just a traffic incident. I just recently found out that its a misdemeanor because I ordered verification of payment. (I ordered this for all the traffic citations I could remember just incase uscis asked for them).

I got my GC before I was convicted of the second incident. It was initially a dui but my attorney managed to get it reduced to a Reckless driving charge.
 
The I-485 specifically says "except traffic violations" for the question about have you ever been cited, arrested etc. So you were not required to disclose it in the GC process, and USCIS would not have known about it back then unless it was discovered in the background checks (which often don't include all your traffic violations, especially if you were not arrested).
 
So, at this point we do not have any single case considering rackless driving a CMT. This question has never came up to the court or even BIA.
We have also statement that aggravated DUI is a CMT while simple DUI is not (Matter of Lopez-Meza).
Pretty much clear if no violence is involved, reckless driving could not be a CMT.

In 2008, the court articulated that to be a crime of violence, the underlying offense “must require proof of an intentional use of force or a substantial risk that force will be intentionally used during its commission under either the (a) or (b) prong of 18 US 16.” The use of force cannot be accidental
That is how it could becone a CMT. But in the circumstanced described it was clearly not.
 
The I-485 specifically says "except traffic violations" for the question about have you ever been cited, arrested etc. So you were not required to disclose it in the GC process, and USCIS would not have known about it back then unless it was discovered in the background checks (which often don't include all your traffic violations, especially if you were not arrested).
Different versions of I-485 have different wording. You have to look at your particular form. However, your explanation looks good anyway.
 
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