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Litigation update this week

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We have applied to the Court for a preliminary injunction and moved for certification of the class. We will be posting a press release very soon providing more details.

If the injunction is passed, bye bye july 15... I guess DOS including me underestimated thoses peoples...
I'm not sure what i want anymore.. a second slim chance on july 15 or fighting DOS...
 
Never underestimate anybody. Internet is a powerful tool. Below is Mr. White update:

1Preliminary Injunction/Class Certification
Posted on June 30, 2011 by admin
We have applied to the Court for a preliminary injunction and moved for certification of the class. We will be posting a press release very soon providing more details.

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If the injunction is passed, bye bye july 15... I guess DOS including me underestimated thoses peoples...
I'm not sure what i want anymore.. a second slim chance on july 15 or fighting DOS...
 
now DOS knows it... they played with foreigners feelings, I remember some post here where peoples were saying "suck it up you lost wait for the redraw"... well, who ever thought it will go like this...
Never underestimate anybody. Internet is a powerful tool. Below is Mr. White update:
 
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All those silly people who have put up their names in official court documents have become martyrs, whose only purpose is to inflate this opportunistic attorney's clientele. DOS has said that they will destroy all forms submissions by the "selectees" thus removing any potential "immigration intent" label, which would deem a person inadmissible on non-immigrant visa. HOWEVER, the court documents are also evidence of such an intent and if DOS want to get down and dirty it has the right to use such documents against those participants in the case.
The injunction will NOT be accepted in this case. Judges do not pass injunctions that easy. According to the law, "a plaintiff seeking a preliminary injunction must establish that he is likely to succeed on the merits, that he is likely to suffer irreparable harm in the absence of preliminary relief, that the balance of equities tips in his favor, and that an injunction is in the public interest." There is no way White will be able to pull this one off. I feel really bad for those people who are sending donations to this guy, whose only true motif is main popularity in the immigrant circles.
 
Some folks here just love to keep repeating "bye bye july 15" every time there's an update on the case.

raevsky, how do you think this will end ? Is it possible there will be no results on july 15? Is there a chance for the initial selctees to get reinstated ? And given what's happened, could DOS cancel dv 2012?
 
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than closer the 15th of July than less chance that 22,000 will be reinstated. According to delit2727 there is no chance for ex-winners at all. It is very sad, but it seems like true.
 
raevsky, how do you think this will end ? Is it possible there will be no results on july 15? Is there a chance for the initial selctees to get reinstated ? And given what's happened, could DOS cancel dv 2012?
I think the main thing will stay as DOS sees it - the redraw from scratch will stay official. On the other side, I think there could be some kind of monetary compensation for postal expenses for those winners who incurred them, and some kind of decision how to penalize DOS in the future for wrong commitments like that. Mr. White will consider those decisions on his behalf as a great success.
 
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I think the main thing will stay as DOS sees it - the redraw from scratch will stay official. On the other side, I think there could be some kind of monetary compensation for postal expenses for those winners who incurred them, and some kind of decision how to penalize DOS in the future for wrong commitments like that. Mr. White will consider those decisions on his behalf as a great success.

Wow Mr White is doing all this to refund some $ 4.- in stamps....hahaha it's really getting funny now.
 
true talk... thoses non selectees just do not want to hear any cancelation so they try to minimize all that... they forgot that the injunction has been placed allready & if a judge accept it, they have to understand that there won't be any more july 15...
Wow Mr White is doing all this to refund some $ 4.- in stamps....hahaha it's really getting funny now.
 
press release

I am one of the ex winners

Have you even read the press release jayo2k?? white is not requesting a hold for the july 15th redraw

he says

Injunction Motion Filed – Requesting Accelerated Court Hearing
Interim judgment sought AHEAD of planned July 15 Drawing
Motion for Class Certification Filed

a request for a preliminary injunction has been filed, which petitions the court to weigh two potential outcomes to preserve the plaintiffs’ interests: 1) allow the July 15 drawing to proceed, only with safeguards to protect the plaintiffs’ rank order; or 2) reinstate the original results for all selectees. The goal of this request is to immediately re-commence the processing of visa and adjustment of status applications for those who have already been recognized and selected in the Lottery
 
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I read the press man, & I am an ex winner, I am aware of the claim, please understand that the injunction is to stop july 15 until this case is done so if the injunction is passed, it's either the cancelation of july 15 or partial redraw.
But if DOS keep being hardheaded, then the injunction (if passed) will spell "bye bye july 15"...
I am one of the ex winners

Have you even read the press release jayo2k?? white is not requesting a hold for the july 15th redraw

he says

Injunction Motion Filed – Requesting Accelerated Court Hearing
Interim judgment sought AHEAD of planned July 15 Drawing
Motion for Class Certification Filed

a request for a preliminary injunction has been filed, which petitions the court to weigh two potential outcomes to preserve the plaintiffs’ interests: 1) allow the July 15 drawing to proceed, only with safeguards to protect the plaintiffs’ rank order; or 2) reinstate the original results for all selectees. The goal of this request is to immediately re-commence the processing of visa and adjustment of status applications for those who have already been recognized and selected in the Lottery
 
Wow Mr White is doing all this to refund some $ 4.- in stamps....hahaha it's really getting funny now

I remember the process he started in 2000 against US consulate in Moscow. It was clear from the very beginning he did not have any chance (the doctrine of consular non-reviewability). He lost as expected.

What did he work for? For this statement:

http://eb5info.com/firms/136-white-associates
He has also spearheaded groundbreaking litigation, including suing the US Embassy in Moscow on two occasions: ensuring changes in its processing of DV Lottery applications after the Lotterygate scandal, and securing a court order directing it to make a visa decision expeditiously on an application pending for more than three years.

I am not aware of the second portion, I am talking only about the first one.

Here is the reference - http://webservices.lexisnexis.com/l...=eDDX.HaHa.aadi.YaDe&searchFlag=y&l1loc=FCLOW

Starting DV-2005 DOS eliminated signature in DV entries, making the process fully electronic, and the issue with the signature was finally closed. However, I think the reason for that was not Mr. White's activity, but 9/11 after which DOS was required to keep original entries forever, and they did not have enough budget to keep paper entries. However, it looks like Mr. White considers this change on behalf of his lawsuit.
 
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what was the moscow case?
I remember the process he started in 2000 against US consulate in Moscow. It was clear from the very beginning he did not have any chance (the doctrine of consular non-reviewability). He lost as expected.

What did he work for? For this statement:

http://eb5info.com/firms/136-white-associates


I am not aware of the second portion, I am talking only about the first one.

Here is the reference - http://webservices.lexisnexis.com/l...=eDDX.HaHa.aadi.YaDe&searchFlag=y&l1loc=FCLOW

Starting DV-2005 DOS eliminated signature in DV entries, making the process fully electronic, and the issue with the signature was finally closed. However, I think the reason for that was not Mr. White's activity, but 9/11 after which DOS was required to keep original entries forever, and they did not have enough budget to keep paper entries. However, it looks like Mr. White considers this change on behalf of his lawsuit.
 
By the way, it's funny how non selectees will bring the Moscow case when Mr White lost (because a lawyer should never lose...) while former selectees will bring the 2002 & 1999 cases where two DV winniers sued DOS & won...
 
I read the press man, & I am an ex winner, I am aware of the claim, please understand that the injunction is to stop july 15 until this case is done so if the injunction is passed, it's either the cancelation of july 15 or partial redraw.
But if DOS keep being hardheaded, then the injunction (if passed) will spell "bye bye july 15"...

Oops nope Jay, it's rather they would diqualify these irish applicants for the dissagreemnt with the DV programm rules and designed try to infuence on the process, or not.
But first variant could be more likely
Yo--ho-ho !!!
 
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Jayo2k from what i can see here,i can see how desparate you are to see the judge pass an Injuction to stop DOS from announcing the results July 15?
 
Well probably raevsky is talking about process which Mister Ken White started to legalize cases of some winners which were disqualified for the false signature in the documents
lolz I'm angry today ;)
 
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well, put on some glasses because you see wrong... unlike you, I try to stay as objective as i can while you just want that redraw so you are desperate for the redraw.. I only quote facts & logic, keep saying "IF" while you just say "heee, no way" with no fact citing wikipedia
Jayo2k from what i can see here,i can see how desparate you are to see the judge pass an Injuction to stop DOS from announcing the results July 15?
 
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