India Dual Citizenship Mega Thread (Merged)
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mangal969 said:My application number must be 30,272!
Looks like my application is right behind yours in the Houston queue
The GoI says that they opened a OCI cell (what ever that means) to process the applications...wondering how many people they have in that cell Mangal Pandey
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Nothing Official about it !!!! Aaah Haah !!!!
Its been 7 weeks now not a thing from NZ. I dont have a file number, all i know is they sent my case to India long back, after that no response from the embassy. Anyone any news from nz?
WELL WHO WANTS TO VOTE IN INDIA ANYWAY- YOU WILL END UP WITH A DIRTY FINGER WITH A BLACK SPOT(INK) ON IT EATING YOUR SKIN HAPPILY
"KEEP IT REAL"
WELL WHO WANTS TO VOTE IN INDIA ANYWAY- YOU WILL END UP WITH A DIRTY FINGER WITH A BLACK SPOT(INK) ON IT EATING YOUR SKIN HAPPILY
"KEEP IT REAL"
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PIO1 said:Lets do a quick survey (for those interested
a) When did you first apply
b) Are you a PIO holder
c) What's your status ("Unprocessed", "Under Process", "Granted", "Issued")
Here are is my response:
a) November 2004
b) No
c) "Granted"
a) January 2006
b) No
c) No file number or acknowledgement rcvd from nz so status - unknown-
PIO1 said:Lets do a quick survey (for those interested
a) When did you first apply
b) Are you a PIO holder
c) What's your status ("Unprocessed", "Under Process", "Granted", "Issued")
Here are is my response:
a)App received by CGNY Jan 9 2006
b) Nope
c) What is a status ????
Got my OCI
I applied in Houston office on Jan. 18, 2006. It was approved on Feb. 5. I sent my passports for stamping on Feb. 23. I got my OCI document and "U" visa stamped in the passport today. The visa has issue date of Feb. 7, 06. It took about 7 weeks for processing. Not bad for GOI.
I applied in Houston office on Jan. 18, 2006. It was approved on Feb. 5. I sent my passports for stamping on Feb. 23. I got my OCI document and "U" visa stamped in the passport today. The visa has issue date of Feb. 7, 06. It took about 7 weeks for processing. Not bad for GOI.
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OCI Document/Sticker (2005 Application)
GOI in New Delhi informed me that they have couriered my OCI Document/Sticker to US Consulate on Feb. 21, 06.
The Consulate has not received them so far!
I wonder how long it takes for the documents to arrive to the USA?
GOI in New Delhi informed me that they have couriered my OCI Document/Sticker to US Consulate on Feb. 21, 06.
The Consulate has not received them so far!
I wonder how long it takes for the documents to arrive to the USA?
PIO1 said:Lets do a quick survey (for those interested
a) When did you first apply
b) Are you a PIO holder
c) What's your status ("Unprocessed", "Under Process", "Granted", "Issued")
Here are is my response:
a) November 2004
b) No
c) "Granted"
Jan 2006 (CGI Houston)
Yes
Something about not yet registered in the mission
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boggavarapu said:
Look at Merced's post..His OCI was approved Feb 7th and he sent his passport on Feb 23rd.
Obviously GoI is using speed post/airmail and not an actual private courier like DHL and that too after they have a fixed no of apps(20 odd) from your embassy . I would expect them to inform you around 10th March
OCI Granted on 7th March as predicted
As I predicted earlier that our OCI will be granted in couple of days, it has been granted on 7th March. Atleast OCI process for 2006 applicants is becoming predictable. Now it is waiting time of 2 weeks to 8 weeks as indicated on the forum. Let me us see on which side of the band we will be for getting the U sticker and the card.
CGINY-- recieved by consulate on Jan 31st.
As I predicted earlier that our OCI will be granted in couple of days, it has been granted on 7th March. Atleast OCI process for 2006 applicants is becoming predictable. Now it is waiting time of 2 weeks to 8 weeks as indicated on the forum. Let me us see on which side of the band we will be for getting the U sticker and the card.
CGINY-- recieved by consulate on Jan 31st.
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fitness99fitness99 said:Jan 2006
Yes
Something about not yet registered in the mission
its useful also to have which consulate to your survey.
Here is my info
Applied Jan 09 2006
not POI holder
changed to "Under process" on Feb 22 after I sent additional docs
SFO Consulate
If you get enough responses, you may have to summarize..
Article 9 of the Indian Constitution
While it appears unlikely that voting rights will be accorded to OCI holders anytime soon, granting such a right does not require any amendment to
article 9 of the Constituion. The scope of Article 9 is only limited to "a person having voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a foreign state prior to the commencement of the Constitution" i.e 26 Jan 1950. Cases of loss of Indian citizenship by reason of acquisition of the citizenship of a foreign state since 26 Jan 1950 are governed by Section 9 of the Citizenship Act.
This has been clearly decided by the Supreme Court in State of UP vs Shah Md. (1969).
Also, article 11 of the Indian Constitution makes it clear that the Constitution does not intend to lay down a permanent or comprehensive law relating to the Citizenship of India. It clearly cedes to the Indian parliament the power to make any legislation with respect to the acquisition and termination of citizenship and all other matters relating to citizenship (subsequent to the commencement of the Constitution). The power of Parliament to enact the Citizenship Act arose from this article.
So, to grant voting rights to OCIs does not require an amendment to the Constitution. However, even if there was political will to do this (as there appears to be to some degree given the public pronouncements), there are practical issues that are going to be tricky to resolve. e.g. determining the constituency that you would be allowed to vote in. It needs to be borne in mind that many OCIs may not have ever set foot in India at all, as is the case with many of our children. Even if you were to come up with some convoluted logic for assigning OCIs to some constituency, it might require amendments to the Representation of People's Act and other statutes.
So, I think under the circumstances they have given as much benefits as they possibly can to OCIs. The only way I think that they can reasonably grant "dual citizenship" is by creating two classes of citizens in India, may be one with voting rights and the other without, which will not happen since it requires too many changes to the fundamental structure of our polity.
As mangal points out in a later post, at some level it will be difficult even for us to make a case for voting rights having voluntarily given up citizenship of India and enjoying voting rights in the US. I just don't seem to have a winning argument for myself to ask for voting rights in India. Just my 0.02 $ worth.
While it appears unlikely that voting rights will be accorded to OCI holders anytime soon, granting such a right does not require any amendment to
article 9 of the Constituion. The scope of Article 9 is only limited to "a person having voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a foreign state prior to the commencement of the Constitution" i.e 26 Jan 1950. Cases of loss of Indian citizenship by reason of acquisition of the citizenship of a foreign state since 26 Jan 1950 are governed by Section 9 of the Citizenship Act.
This has been clearly decided by the Supreme Court in State of UP vs Shah Md. (1969).
Also, article 11 of the Indian Constitution makes it clear that the Constitution does not intend to lay down a permanent or comprehensive law relating to the Citizenship of India. It clearly cedes to the Indian parliament the power to make any legislation with respect to the acquisition and termination of citizenship and all other matters relating to citizenship (subsequent to the commencement of the Constitution). The power of Parliament to enact the Citizenship Act arose from this article.
So, to grant voting rights to OCIs does not require an amendment to the Constitution. However, even if there was political will to do this (as there appears to be to some degree given the public pronouncements), there are practical issues that are going to be tricky to resolve. e.g. determining the constituency that you would be allowed to vote in. It needs to be borne in mind that many OCIs may not have ever set foot in India at all, as is the case with many of our children. Even if you were to come up with some convoluted logic for assigning OCIs to some constituency, it might require amendments to the Representation of People's Act and other statutes.
So, I think under the circumstances they have given as much benefits as they possibly can to OCIs. The only way I think that they can reasonably grant "dual citizenship" is by creating two classes of citizens in India, may be one with voting rights and the other without, which will not happen since it requires too many changes to the fundamental structure of our polity.
As mangal points out in a later post, at some level it will be difficult even for us to make a case for voting rights having voluntarily given up citizenship of India and enjoying voting rights in the US. I just don't seem to have a winning argument for myself to ask for voting rights in India. Just my 0.02 $ worth.
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