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kamrans said:
Rammyrammy,
Its not necessary to file I-824 after your 485 approval. I filed mine together and they both approved together on the same day. However I have seen cases in which they deny it. Dont know the reason but people can apply for I-824 if their 485 is pending.
It is been some time since I do not enter to this forum, and the reason was because my wife came to see me after 4 years, my cuestion for you kamrans is that you mention that you field I-824 and I-485 toghether and they got approved the same day? I realy would like to know it, because my wife at the day of her interview(for her residence) she field I-824 for me, unfortunly after her interview she had to wait for the FBI name check (took her about 2 years to get her GC after the interview) after that I realy do not know what happend to my I-824, but there is the posibility that they approved it at the same time they approved my wifes GC, our lawer told my wife, my I-824 has been sent to Cd. Juarez Mexico; please take the time to respond at it; thanks a lot
 
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FTJ query

I have sent all the documents listed by the chennai embassy.Do they create a case number after we send them the packet 3 or do they create the case number after INS notifes them of the I824 approval by cable,and also please let me know once the case number is created what are the next steps,will they be sending the packet 4.

Thanks
 
Check below for the answers:

jattala said:
hellooo
My i-824 form is received on June 12th 2006, my question is that when will my case reach the embassy so then my family and I have to go for there an interview.

You should pay attention to the steps involved. Check the timeline in your service center to see when it will get approve. Right now they are processing cases of March 20, 2006. Create a portfolio with USCIS and you will get notified in email that your I-824 is approved. Wait for 14 days after its approval. If you get packet 3.5 at your home address in india then its good otherwise send them the required docements to create a case for you and send you packet 3.5. You can see the required list of documents in this thread. Once you send them back packet 3.5 with all the requirements fulfilled they will review it and give you the interview date within packet 4.

and how long will it take for this to approved. How long will it take for my family and I to get our immigrant visa so my family and I can goto america.

Nobody can tell you how long it will take. The rough estimate would be 2-3 months to get your I-824 approved and 3-5 months after approval if everything goes smooth and you and your family is a FTJ beneficiary. If you have additional questions you can ask your family here in USA to check with their lawyer who knows the exact details of your case and can tell you better.

Good Luck


Thank u
 
That would be good. Someone else can take benefit with your experience. Hope you will get it within the present mess. There is no harm in trying.

Good Luck.

nikhilji said:
Thanks for sharing your experience, Kamran. Will keep the group posted on the developments.

nikhil
 
Its good to know that your wife is with you and she got the GC and you got your I-824 is approved and they cable it to the consulate.
When I say that 485 and 824 approved on the same day means that I was here in USA and she was back in home country and both petitions approved by USCIS on the same day. I dont know your situation.
If your lawyer is telling you that your I-824 is sent to mexico this means its approved. Check on the USCIS website to find out the status. If its approved and you dont hear anything from consulate within 14 days then contact them and send them the required documents to create a case and send you packet 3.5. Thats how the process is going to start and it will take 3-5 months for you to get the visa to go there.
Let me know if you have additional questions.
Good Luck.


JCisLORD said:
It is been some time since I do not enter to this forum, and the reason was because my wife came to see me after 4 years, my cuestion for you kamrans is that you mention that you field I-824 and I-485 toghether and they got approved the same day? I realy would like to know it, because my wife at the day of her interview(for her residence) she field I-824 for me, unfortunly after her interview she had to wait for the FBI name check (took her about 2 years to get her GC after the interview) after that I realy do not know what happend to my I-824, but there is the posibility that they approved it at the same time they approved my wifes GC, our lawer told my wife, my I-824 has been sent to Cd. Juarez Mexico; please take the time to respond at it; thanks a lot
 
I dont know what documents you sent them. Usually there are 4-5 documents they need to create a case number and send you packet 3.5. If you have already fulfilled the requirements of packet 3.5 like docs medical report, police report etc then they will send you directly packet 4 otherwise they will create a case and send you packet 3.5 with the instructions on how to complete all the requirements.
Sometimes consulates in india and rest in the world send packet 3.5 as soon as they get the cable from USCIS. This is done within 14 days. But if you dont hear anything from them within 14 days then dont wait and send the required docs to create a case so that they can send you packet 3.5. This is major mistake we all do. I did the same thing and now I am suffering. If someone have told me this thing last year my wife would have got the visa before retrogression hits. But anyway I would like to tell everybody how this process flows and what are the steps involved.
Let me know if you have any further questions.
Good Luck.


prs73 said:
I have sent all the documents listed by the chennai embassy.Do they create a case number after we send them the packet 3 or do they create the case number after INS notifes them of the I824 approval by cable,and also please let me know once the case number is created what are the next steps,will they be sending the packet 4.

Thanks
 
Food for thought for all of us.

Retrogression will get worse before it gets better. This is what the shusterman news letter said. Check it below.

As recently as December 2004, all employment-based (EB) categories for permanent residence were "current". That is, there were no backlogs.
That all started to change in January 2005 when the EB-3 category (professionals and skilled workers) backlogged three years. These backlogs are referred to as the "retrogression".

The retrogression has gradually gotten worse during the past 21 months. The October 2006 State Department Visa Bulletin reveals that the EB-3 category has now retrogressed almost 4 1/2 years. The backlogs are even greater for persons born in India and Mexico. Even the EB-2 category for advanced-degreed professionals has backlogged for persons born in India and China. See


http://shusterman.com/vb.html

In the absence of congressional action, the retrogression will get worse, probably a lot worse, before it gets better. Why?
In May 2005, President Bush, recognizing the tremendous shortage of nurses and therapists, signed a bill which "recaptured" 50,000 immigrant visas for Schedule A professionals, primarily registered nurses, physical therapists and their family members. By the end of this month, all 50,000 visas will be used up. What will happen to RNs and PTs who are still in line for green cards and those who will apply for permanent residence in the future? They will be added to the EB-3 backlog which will result in increased waiting times, perhaps to five years or more.

The total number of persons who are permitted to obtain permanent residence each year in the employment-based categories is only 140,000. Adding another 30,000 - 50,000 to the current backlogs will certainly make the retrogression more severe.

Even more problematic are the 300,000+ applications for labor certification currently pending in the Labor Department's (DOL's) Backlog Elimination Centers. DOL has pledged to take action on each of these applications within the next 18 months. Even if only 200,000 of these applications are ultimately approved, if 50% of the applicants have a spouse and one child, the number of green cards needed to accommodate them would total 300,000. This is more than double the annual cap on EB green cards. Therefore, this has the potential to make the EB-2 and EB-3 numbers regress another two years.

Finally, present laws contain hard per-country caps. This means that countries like India and China which have populations of over one billion persons each have exactly the same quotas as Monaco and Mauritius, two tiny countries which supply the U.S. with virtually no immigrants. Given that most H-1B professionals are born in India and China, the per-country quotas will exaggerate the retrogression for persons born in these countries.

If high-skilled immigrants could only come to U.S. or remain in their own countries, our country could afford to continue this backward, "Let them eat Chicken McNuggets!" approach. But various European countries, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the Persian Gulf countries are all competing for these talented individuals. Even Germany, the great bastion for engineers is seeing the number of German students studying engineering fall precipitously.

It is in our national interest to make our country the principal destination for computer professionals and scientists, for nurses, teachers and therapists, and for businessmen and physicians from all over the world.

The Senate immigration bill (S.2611) would have greatly expanded both the outdated employment and family-based immigration systems and eased the per-country limitations. Unfortunately, House Republicans, worried that they might lose their majority in the mid-term elections, refused to negotiate a compromise bill with the Senate.

Perhaps, in the "lame duck" session of Congress which will occur after the November elections, reason will prevail and Congress will pass amendments to fix our legal immigration system.

But just in case, be sure to keep the heat on members of Congress, and perhaps, they will see the light.
 
Can we try visitor visa in the mean time?

Hi Kamrans,
I'm going thru this thread, and found you have been so helpfull for the needys. God bless you.

I'm on GC since a year. At the time I file my 485 we were not guided properly so we did not include our child in our 485, my child was in India and studying. Last year we have filed follow to join 824, its got approved in a month and they have sent us a packet-3 here in US address and in my India address as well. We have filled all required documents and sent back to Chennai consulate. I have called recently (3 months ago)Chennai consulate, they said they currently processing 2001 cases. Ours is 2004 Dec and it is EB3. The gave some MDR number.

I would like to know your comments/suggestions on the following.
1. As we see the current status it may take a year or two to process our case. Can we bring our child (13 years) on visitor visa just to visit US here in US and spend 2 months holidays and go back to India?
2. Any idea what is current processing timings for the cases in Chennai?
3. Any other thing are we missing in following with our case?

Thanks
 
Your Packet-3 should contain a case number starting with MDR..

prs73 said:
I have sent all the documents listed by the chennai embassy.Do they create a case number after we send them the packet 3 or do they create the case number after INS notifes them of the I824 approval by cable,and also please let me know once the case number is created what are the next steps,will they be sending the packet 4.

Thanks
 
rambabu123 said:
Hi Kamrans,
I'm going thru this thread, and found you have been so helpfull for the needys. God bless you.

I'm on GC since a year. At the time I file my 485 we were not guided properly so we did not include our child in our 485, my child was in India and studying. Last year we have filed follow to join 824, its got approved in a month and they have sent us a packet-3 here in US address and in my India address as well. We have filled all required documents and sent back to Chennai consulate. I have called recently (3 months ago)Chennai consulate, they said they currently processing 2001 cases. Ours is 2004 Dec and it is EB3. The gave some MDR number.

I would like to know your comments/suggestions on the following.
1. As we see the current status it may take a year or two to process our case. Can we bring our child (13 years) on visitor visa just to visit US here in US and spend 2 months holidays and go back to India?
I would say it will take years to get to your PD. AS India has only 2800 visa per year including the dependents. Since they suspended the AC21 rule back in Nov 2005 retrogress countries are not getting any spill over from ROW.
Yes you should apply for visit visa for your kid. There is no other option. I am feeling sorry for you.


2. Any idea what is current processing timings for the cases in Chennai?
I am not sure but people say that the interview date is about 4 months for the date of receipt of application.
3. Any other thing are we missing in following with our case?
Check for all the requirements on path2usa.com for a visit visa. Dont lie anywhere. I am sure it will be easy for you and you will get it. Good Luck.

Thanks
 
kamrans said:
Susan,
I am extremely sorry to hear this. This is really saddening. Anyway the first I-824 got denied because your husband I-485 was in process. I heard this from several cases but mine and some others got approved on the same day when I-485 got approved. This is USCIS and nothing is certain.
Did you talk to any representative?. They can help you out. You can also write letter to Rice as she is head of State department and she can intervene.
Keep the law suit as last option. To be on safe side why dont you apply for I-130 now and keep on struggling with the IALA lawyers and with the senators and congressman. If you get an appointment with them that would be great.
I would suggest you the following:
1) File I-130 right away. At least you will get something later on if there is no hope. Your time will not be wasted. Also if I remember right then son of citizens dont come under any visa number limitation. So if you become a citizen you can get him here in no time.
2) Get appointment with senator and congressman and meet them with all evidences. You need to put together family conditions, humanitarian reasons and the hardships you both are facing.
3) Contact IALA and send them the case history. They might help you out.
4) Contact lawyers who are experts in suing. Get their inputs. If they see something they can get from it they will get your case and then you dont have to pay anything.
5) See other options like H1 or student. Ask your son to get some technical skills like computers or someting else.

Hope this is helpful. Let me know if I would be of further help.


Hello

Thank you for your reply

Yes what a mess !

I have been in lots of newpapers if you go to www.expatsvoice.org and search you can read my full story

But basically, husband diagnosed terminal 4th May 06 and died 13th May 06
Son was in US on visa waiver as his L 2 expired on 21st. Prior to this date he was in the US for his annual holiday Mid Nov 05- end Jan 06

Congressman Dave Weldon has been trying to assist and not getting anywhere. The VO said son aged out in e-mail to congressman on 5th Oct 05. Been told husband dead, application dead !

Son went to American embassy in June 06 for B visa as I need him for probate and help find final resting place for husband. Congressman sent e-mail of support of B visa to Caulfield (head of non immigrant section of American Embassy) Son took doctors letter in support of sons B ivsa , family needs him , saying son MUST return to home country with Mum for probate in home country also.

Son also took proof that he pays all utilities on home in UK, letter to say employed as director of our UK company and loads of other stuff. He was denied a B visa as officer stated

# Section 214 of INA states all applicants shall be deemed an immigrant untill such times the applicant proves he/she is not #

Son could not show/prove strong family ties to home country!

Anyway, we could do with people like you at www.expatsvoice.org as you are very helpful and knowledgeable, please join if you have time and others

As a result of my story ion the press I now have immigration attorney who is taking to court pro-bono !

Hopefully the paperwork should be ready to file in the next two weeks. He said the TSC denied the 1st I 824 incorrectly and file should not have been separated etc., so will see what happens !

There are so many children aging out due to visa numbers not being available etc., that I feel we should all cspa cases file a class action, any takers?
 
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Letter from congress man

Kamrans,
As I said earlier, i am applying for Visitor visa for my wife because PD is not moving.
Do you think, letter from Congress man will give additional advantage?
If so, what reason can we tell for asking recommendation because we havenot tried not even one time. if we try once and get rejected, we could get congressman's help.

Please throw your thoughts on this.

Thanks for your help.



kamrans said:
Yes I did and waiting for the interview date. Will post the details here as soon as I get it.

Good Luck.
 
agpatti said:
Kamrans,
As I said earlier, i am applying for Visitor visa for my wife because PD is not moving.
Do you think, letter from Congress man will give additional advantage?
You never know what can give weight to your visit visa case. Its always good to have something rather than not having it.

If so, what reason can we tell for asking recommendation because we havenot tried not even one time. if we try once and get rejected, we could get congressman's help.
Dont wait to get rejected for the first time and then ask his help. Go directly to him and tell the retrogression problem and tell him that your family life is much disturb and ask for his help. In the end just tell him that if you cannot do anything then please give me the supporting letter for the visit visa so that she can come hera and go back until the retrogression is over.

Please throw your thoughts on this.

Thanks for your help.
 
Hi Kamrans,

from the below note,
What is tje AC21 rule about?
.....
I would say it will take years to get to your PD. AS India has only 2800 visa per year including the dependents. Since they suspended the AC21 rule back in Nov 2005 retrogress countries are not getting any spill over from ROW.
Yes you should apply for visit visa for your kid. There is no other option. I am feeling sorry for you.
 
Will spouse be eligible for following to join benefits?

Hi everyone,
I filed my 485 from within US while I was single. Now suppose I get
married outside US and come back to US. Now if my 485 gets approved and
I get the green card.
Is my spouse still eligible for "following to join" benefit?
Is there a time limit within which one should update INS about change
in marital status while 485 is pending?
What if 485 gets approved and INS was never informed about the
marriage, will filing I-824 be ok and be accepted?
Please share your experiences. I'm looking into this option as the wait
for family based sponsorship is excruciatingly long.

I will be asking to update US embassy in Islamabad in 824.

I see this thread has lot of interest so I hope to get your expert opinions on this. Thanks for this great thread,

Regards,
Jeff
 
Plz Reply Me

Dear fallows my case i-824 has been approved so i am very happy MY QUESTION IS AFTER HOW MUCH TIME I RECEIVED PACkeT 3 OR I RECEIVED IT IN USA OR IN MY NATIV COUNTRY AND MY OTHER NEXT QUESTION IS IF I-130 HAS BEEN APPROVED AFTER HOW MOUCh tIME TAKE THIS CASE AND WHEN MY BROTHER RECEIVED PACKET 3 AND MY I-130 WAS APPROVED ON 1st WEEK OF JUNE ,2005
 
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jefkorn said:
Hi everyone,
I filed my 485 from within US while I was single. Now suppose I get
married outside US and come back to US. Now if my 485 gets approved and
I get the green card.
Is my spouse still eligible for "following to join" benefit?
... depends which comes first, marriage or GC? ... For your spouse to be eligible for FTJ, you need to be married before you get GC approval

Is there a time limit within which one should update INS about change
in marital status while 485 is pending?
... I never did. And, I don't see any reeason to do so if spouse is in home country and planning for FTJ.

What if 485 gets approved and INS was never informed about the
marriage, will filing I-824 be ok and be accepted?
... Yes. As long as you have proof.

Please share your experiences. I'm looking into this option as the wait
for family based sponsorship is excruciatingly long.

I will be asking to update US embassy in Islamabad in 824.

I see this thread has lot of interest so I hope to get your expert opinions on this. Thanks for this great thread,

Regards,
Jeff
 
jattala said:
Dear fallows my case i-824 has been approved so i am very happy MY QUESTION IS AFTER HOW MUCH TIME I RECEIVED PACkeT 3 OR I RECEIVED IT IN USA OR IN MY NATIV COUNTRY AND MY OTHER NEXT QUESTION IS IF I-130 HAS BEEN APPROVED AFTER HOW MOUCh tIME TAKE THIS CASE AND WHEN MY BROTHER RECEIVED PACKET 3 AND MY I-130 WAS APPROVED ON 1st WEEK OF JUNE ,2005

Packet-3 will be mailed to the beneficiary in your home country.

Rather then waiting for consulate, you can also ask your relative to download forms and submit supporting papers along with approved I-130/824 to consulate. If worked, it can expedite the process.

Regarding timing, there are a lot factors to influence the case. Three to six month is normal time in cases like this.
 
Which form please ask me the form number like i-130 and i-824 and supporting papers is the approval notices and in packet 3 and packet 4 what is in this packets
 
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Hi vik100,
I noticed that you got married before GC approval(485 approval). So when your GC approved, you must have mentioned "single" as your marital status, right? Does that cause any problems when you file for "follow to join"?

Also did you have to inform INS after you got married or just you just decided to do follow to join after one year of approval? Does it matter how long after the approval you apply for follow to join?

Thanks in advance

Request to other members: if vivk100 is not actively responding or available in the forum, please chime in and share your opinion on my questions.
 
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