DV 2023 All Selectees (Consular Processing - CP)

[Sm1smom]

With the way that the December 9th announcement was worded, the pilot program that removed the document procedure only applied to DV2022. That means the document procedure is back unless they specifically extend the pilot or decide it should run that way going forward. In DV2022 post pilot processing, there has been effort by KCC to enforce the case number order that was previously enforced by the document procedure. But we don't know how "costly" the program is in terms of resources.

So - we will have to wait and see if they remove the document procedure for DV2023. But for now, it's back.

AFAIK, "document processing" which I interpret as being different from "document submission processing" has always been a part of the procedure from the onset, that particular "document processing" (the DS260 (previously DS160 and DSP122 forms) never went away. It is still in place. I base this on the section of the 9FAM, which has always stated (long before the document submission program got rolled out) that KCC schedules the interview after a candidate has been found to be documentarily qualified.

The document submission program itself was the pilot program which required selectees to submit their documents prior to being scheduled for an interview (which got introduced as part of DV 2022 if memory serves me right). This pilot program is what got suspended on December 9th. I have no doubt the DS260 document processing will still apply for DV2023. What is currently not clear to me is the "document submission program processing" despite the wording on the 1NL. So yeah, it is wait and see for now.

 

[Feyre546]

Hello. My husband and I won the DV2021 lottery and we moved to the States in November last year. We have a relative back in our home country who was selected for the DV2023 program and we wanted to clarify a few queries:
1. Can we provide the Affidavit of Support (Form I-134) for him? Even though we have PR but we've only been here for a few months?
2. Or, can the person who provided the Form I-134 for us also provide the same for our relative? Can they sponsor different DV winners albeit at different times and for different programs?
Thank you!

 

[SusieQQQ]

Hello. My husband and I won the DV2021 lottery and we moved to the States in November last year. We have a relative back in our home country who was selected for the DV2023 program and we wanted to clarify a few queries:
1. Can we provide the Affidavit of Support (Form I-134) for him? Even though we have PR but we've only been here for a few months?
2. Or, can the person who provided the Form I-134 for us also provide the same for our relative? Can they sponsor different DV winners albeit at different times and for different programs?
Thank you!

Either is fine, assuming the sponsor meets the income requirements to sponsor the total number of people immigrating including , if applicable, those who have already been sponsored.

 

[Oeldakhakhny]

We don’t know yet if KCC will revert back to the document submission request process, it was stopped last December for DV2022, so my suggestion is to wait for now.

Thank you for your response and clarification, just to make sure we're on the same page and I understood correctly. The KCC won't send me an email to ask for documents at all and (if they continue with the same approach that started last December DV2022) and I'll only bring documents to the interview if scheduled?
Edit: I just went back and read again the confirmation page of the DS 260, and it seems like they explicitly mentioned "You don't need to submit any documentation to the Kentucky Consular Center"
Which contradicts what is in the ESC "Your case will not be scheduled for an interview appointment until a visa number is available, you have submitted a complete and valid DS-260 application for each family member, and you have provided copies of all required documentation to the Kentucky Consular Center (KCC)"

 

[Feyre546]

Either is fine, assuming the sponsor meets the income requirements to sponsor the total number of people immigrating including , if applicable, those who have already been sponsored.

Thank you so much for your response, I appreciate it!

 

[Sm1smom]

Hello. My husband and I won the DV2021 lottery and we moved to the States in November last year. We have a relative back in our home country who was selected for the DV2023 program and we wanted to clarify a few queries:
1. Can we provide the Affidavit of Support (Form I-134) for him? Even though we have PR but we've only been here for a few months?
2. Or, can the person who provided the Form I-134 for us also provide the same for our relative? Can they sponsor different DV winners albeit at different times and for different programs?
Thank you!

1. IMO, this depends on when their CN becomes current. If this will be later in 2023, after you would have completed your 2022 tax filing (and you meet the financial requirements of course), then you certainly can as you will be able to better demonstrate you're capable of doing so.
2. If the person's income meets the requirements for their household plus your household (yes, they have to declare you on the new I-134) plus the household of the new person/family they wish to sponsor, then yes they can equally do so.

 

[Sm1smom]

Thank you for your response and clarification, just to make sure we're on the same page and I understood correctly. The KCC won't send me an email to ask for documents at all and (if they continue with the same approach that started last December DV2022) and I'll only bring documents to the interview if scheduled?
Edit: I just went back and read again the confirmation page of the DS 260, and it seems like they explicitly mentioned "You don't need to submit any documentation to the Kentucky Consular Center"
Which contradicts what is in the ESC "Your case will not be scheduled for an interview appointment until a visa number is available, you have submitted a complete and valid DS-260 application for each family member, and you have provided copies of all required documentation to the Kentucky Consular Center (KCC)"

Again, it is a wait and see situation for now IMO.

 

[Feyre546]

1. IMO, this depends on when their CN becomes current. If this will be later in 2023, after you would have completed your 2022 tax filing (and you meet the financial requirements of course), then you certainly can as you will be able to better demonstrate you're capable of doing so.
2. If the person's income meets the requirements for their household plus your household (yes, they have to declare you on the new I-134) plus the household of the new person/family they wish to sponsor, then yes they can equally do so.

Thank you! I appreciate your response

 

[Britsimon]

AFAIK, "document processing" which I interpret as being different from "document submission processing" has always been a part of the procedure from the onset, that particular "document processing" (the DS260 (previously DS160 and DSP122 forms) never went away. It is still in place. I base this on the section of the 9FAM, which has always stated (long before the document submission program got rolled out) that KCC schedules the interview after a candidate has been found to be documentarily qualified.

The document submission program itself was the pilot program which required selectees to submit their documents prior to being scheduled for an interview (which got introduced as part of DV 2022 if memory serves me right). This pilot program is what got suspended on December 9th. I have no doubt the DS260 document processing will still apply for DV2023. What is currently not clear to me is the "document submission program processing" despite the wording on the 1NL. So yeah, it is wait and see for now.

Perhaps I'm confused by your wording, but I think I disagree with at least some of what you said.

The document submission procedure (where certain documents had to be sent to KCC for review prior to interview scheduling) was introduced in late October/early November 2018 (my first blog post about it was November 3, 2018). So - it was introduced for DV2019, thankfully after most cases had been processed. It was a horrible mess that caused difficulties for some people in DV2019 , and would have continued to cause difficulties if the even larger problems hadn't overshadowed it in DV2020 and onward.

The concept of being "documentarily qualified" was not to do with that new procedure, and cases still have to become Documentarily Qualified/Complete prior to scheduling. It is, as you say, to do with the DS260 application, but also any other requirements they put in place. So, whilst the document submission procedure was in place, those submitted documents were part of the process required to become DQ/DC (DOCQ and DOCC being the status codes that KCC use internally).

The document submission procedure was removed for DV2022 as a "pilot program" as announced in this statement on Dec 9 last year, but the announcement only referred to DV2022. The pilot program is the trial period for removal of the document submission procedure and is supposedly going to be reviewed at some point in the near future.

DoS never removed the instruction to submit documents from the "if you were selected" page. So for now, it's still part of the process for DV2023, but I hope will be removed. We will see whether they revert to sending doc requests or not within a few weeks.

 

[xjumpsuit]

Hi EU14xxx here. Is there any hope for an interview ?)))

And about the Ds260 - if I submit it later like idk in july it will have a negative impact ?

 

[Sm1smom]

Perhaps I'm confused by your wording, but I think I disagree with at least some of what you said.

The document submission procedure (where certain documents had to be sent to KCC for review prior to interview scheduling) was introduced in late October/early November 2018 (my first blog post about it was November 3, 2018). So - it was introduced for DV2019, thankfully after most cases had been processed. It was a horrible mess that caused difficulties for some people in DV2019 , and would have continued to cause difficulties if the even larger problems hadn't overshadowed it in DV2020 and onward.

Ma bad re what I previously wrote about document submission request being introduced in 2022 - got my dates all mixed up, shouldn't be posting before 8am (that's what happens when the brain tries to get active prior to the first cup of coffee needed to wake it up). Thanks for the clarification.

The concept of being "documentarily qualified" was not to do with that new procedure, and cases still have to become Documentarily Qualified/Complete prior to scheduling. It is, as you say, to do with the DS260 application, but also any other requirements they put in place. So, whilst the document submission procedure was in place, those submitted documents were part of the process required to become DQ/DC (DOCQ and DOCC being the status codes that KCC use internally).

A much more concise summary of what my post was trying to say

DoS never removed the instruction to submit documents from the "if you were selected" page. So for now, it's still part of the process for DV2023, but I hope will be removed. We will see whether they revert to sending doc requests or not within a few weeks.

Same conclusion/ending

p.s. this is why you and Susie need to be more present in this forum and stop going AWOL on me so I can remain in my AOS lane

 

[Samusoni]

I think we are in big trouble. Looks like the date of birth (day and/or month) is/are wrong. Watched Britsimon's video on how to try to recover that. But, we don't remember the email address used during application to try to recover the correct information. Would KCC help in any way? I am nervous now.

PS: The case is now locked (DS 260 entry) for too many unsuccessful login attempts

 

[Sm1smom]

I think we are in big trouble. Looks like the date of birth (day and/or month) is/are wrong. Watched Britsimon's video on how to try to recover that. But, we don't remember the email address used during application to try to recover the correct information. Would KCC help in any way? I am nervous now.

PS: The case is now locked (DS 260 entry) for too many unsuccessful login attempts

Unfortunately KCC does not help with information recovery

 

[Sm1smom]

Hi EU14xxx here. Is there any hope for an interview ?)))

And about the Ds260 - if I submit it later like idk in july it will have a negative impact ?

1. Probably yes. Too early to be certain though.
2. Should KCC revert back to the document submission program, it might take a while for you to get the document submission request email.

 

[dvlottwo23]

Hi guys! I'm new here and my partner and I have been selected to apply for a DV lottery. At first, I have noticed that I was unable to access and start my ds-260 form and thought applications should be submitted during the government fiscal year '23 (from October 1st, 2022 to September 31st, 2023), but having an access to the form means I should be able to start filling out information, but my question is when should we expect to receive supporting documents requests, and how long will we be given to provide all supporting documents? Police certificates and birth certificate issued from my home country will require translation and be certified, I believe.

 

[Sm1smom]

Hi guys! I'm new here and my partner and I have been selected to apply for a DV lottery. At first, I have noticed that I was unable to access and start my ds-260 form and thought applications should be submitted during the government fiscal year '23 (from October 1st, 2022 to September 31st, 2023), but having an access to the form means I should be able to start filling out information, but my question is when should we expect to receive supporting documents requests, and how long will we be given to provide all supporting documents? Police certificates and birth certificate issued from my home country will require translation and be certified, I believe.

1. You do not need to wait for the start of the FY before filling and submitting the DS260. Several other selectees are equally reporting difficulty accessing the form, this is due to heavy demand on CEAC - everyone is trying to access the site at the same time. So you can wait a while and try again at some other time.
2. For now, no one knows when or if KCC will be sending out the document request email for DV2023, so wait and see.
3. You can start gathering your civil documents in the interim and working on getting them translated if required. You do not need to wait until the documents get requested before trying to gather them.

p.s. number your questions when you asking about more than one issue per post.

 

[SusieQQQ]

I think we are in big trouble. Looks like the date of birth (day and/or month) is/are wrong. Watched Britsimon's video on how to try to recover that. But, we don't remember the email address used during application to try to recover the correct information. Would KCC help in any way? I am nervous now.

PS: The case is now locked (DS 260 entry) for too many unsuccessful login attempts

Common mistake especially if birthdate day is 12 or less is swopping the day/month vs the US convention - you tried that?

 

[PKIe]

I am currently a university student, completing towards end of 2023. I applied as a high school graduate. In the DS260 I wrote that I am in university under 'current employer or school name'. However, when I go to the next section it asks- 'Have you attended any educational institutions at a secondary school level or above' I answered yes. 'highest level of education completed' I answered High school.
then it asks 'number of educational institutions attended', --this is where I am confused.
When I write 2 (for high school and uni) it requires me to list educational institutions that I have already graduated from/requires a past date, so I am limited to just saying 1 for the 'number of educational institutions attended'. I am hoping this is ok?

Thank you for your help @SusieQQQ @Sm1smom with answering our questions.
AF52k

 

[plantronics]

Hello,

Finally i won after 22 years of participation, I think its time to join my brother .
Please help me to complete my ds260.

I have a bachelor's degree in financial science, but I worked as IT support engineer during the last 12 years also I have some IT certifications with SUN, Oracle, VMware, EMC... etc.
1-So should I fill "Does this job require at least 2 years of training or experience" or not ?
2-My old company dissolved and the phone number not working, should I add the old phone number or mine ?
3-My university changed address, should I put the old or the new address ?

Best Regards,
Malikhe

 

[Sm1smom]

I am currently a university student, completing towards end of 2023. I applied as a high school graduate. In the DS260 I wrote that I am in university under 'current employer or school name'. However, when I go to the next section it asks- 'Have you attended any educational institutions at a secondary school level or above' I answered yes. 'highest level of education completed' I answered High school.
then it asks 'number of educational institutions attended', --this is where I am confused.
When I write 2 (for high school and uni) it requires me to list educational institutions that I have already graduated from/requires a past date, so I am limited to just saying 1 for the 'number of educational institutions attended'. I am hoping this is ok?

Thank you for your help @SusieQQQ @Sm1smom with answering our questions.
AF52k

You’ve graduated/attended one school and are currently attending another, so yes your response is correct.