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Hello admin, I am here needing your help. My brother won DV 2021.CN is AF 23k. He lost the passport he used to register after filling DS 260. It was valid n not expired.he got a police cert n asked for new.when he submitted the form he filled , the women (at immigration)told him there is discrepancy on DOB(not month n year).b/n what's on the computer (on Lost passport) n his current request.he later told me he didn't know of the error since he did not check carefully.anyways, he explained it is not his fault since he presented copy of birth cert at that time, n showed it again, n they concluded it is either typo or conversion error and he was given a new pp with the correct info n we edited the ds 260 with the new pp info.now, I want him to send his documents to kcc(though not requested) ,he does not have a proof of the old passport(copy or pic) pls advice how he should proceed? Local advisors told us that as long as he reported Lost passport to police, the passport number will go to interpol's site n kcc can easily verify that he actually had that passport). Though they corrected it automatically, how about the DOB error the pp officer mentioned( which he does not know of)? Will it create a problem? Pls give me a detailed explanation so that I can convince him to proceed( he already claims he is unlucky n is losing hope)
 
Getaekonew said:
Hello admin, I am here needing your help. My brother won DV 2021.CN is AF 23k. He lost the passport he used to register after filling DS 260. It was valid n not expired.he got a police cert n asked for new.when he submitted the form he filled , the women (at immigration)told him there is discrepancy on DOB(not month n year).b/n what's on the computer (on Lost passport) n his current request.he later told me he didn't know of the error since he did not check carefully.anyways, he explained it is not his fault since he presented copy of birth cert at that time, n showed it again, n they concluded it is either typo or conversion error and he was given a new pp with the correct info n we edited the ds 260 with the new pp info.now, I want him to send his documents to kcc(though not requested) ,he does not have a proof of the old passport(copy or pic) pls advice how he should proceed? Local advisors told us that as long as he reported Lost passport to police, the passport number will go to interpol's site n kcc can easily verify that he actually had that passport). Though they corrected it automatically, how about the DOB error the pp officer mentioned( which he does not know of)? Will it create a problem? Pls give me a detailed explanation so that I can convince him to proceed( he already claims he is unlucky n is losing hope)
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This sounds suspicious. In any case, having a copy of the lost/stolen passport would have helped their case — this is noted on the entry instructions. Merely reporting a lost passport doesn’t prove that a passport was lost. Nor does it prove that it ever existed.

I can’t help but agree with your brother. It’s almost certain that his application will be denied. I wouldn’t recommend that they proceed. But in the end, it’s up to them.

Added: if the issuing agency has record of the passport, as you’ve claimed, can’t your brother request a print out of that?
 
Hey @Xarthisius, thanks for your great DV data website. Just wondering when you next expect to scrape the CEAC data for DV2021? I understand that there has probably not been much movement, but it would be interesting to see if there are signs of life from KCC or any particular consulates. Thank you :)
 
Getaekonew said:
Hello admin, I am here needing your help. My brother won DV 2021.CN is AF 23k. He lost the passport he used to register after filling DS 260. It was valid n not expired.he got a police cert n asked for new.when he submitted the form he filled , the women (at immigration)told him there is discrepancy on DOB(not month n year).b/n what's on the computer (on Lost passport) n his current request.he later told me he didn't know of the error since he did not check carefully.anyways, he explained it is not his fault since he presented copy of birth cert at that time, n showed it again, n they concluded it is either typo or conversion error and he was given a new pp with the correct info n we edited the ds 260 with the new pp info.now, I want him to send his documents to kcc(though not requested) ,he does not have a proof of the old passport(copy or pic) pls advice how he should proceed? Local advisors told us that as long as he reported Lost passport to police, the passport number will go to interpol's site n kcc can easily verify that he actually had that passport). Though they corrected it automatically, how about the DOB error the pp officer mentioned( which he does not know of)? Will it create a problem? Pls give me a detailed explanation so that I can convince him to proceed( he already claims he is unlucky n is losing hope)
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Are you saying that he not only lost the passport he used, but that that passport had a wrong date of birth? how wrong?

hmm, I guess he could try but there must be a reasonable chance of denial, more or less depending what country he is in. If the country is a “high fraud” country (embassies get a lot of dodgy documents or people can get fraudulent documents quite easily etc) it will be harder to be successful.
 
Getaekonew said:
Hello admin, I am here needing your help. My brother won DV 2021.CN is AF 23k. He lost the passport he used to register after filling DS 260. It was valid n not expired.he got a police cert n asked for new.when he submitted the form he filled , the women (at immigration)told him there is discrepancy on DOB(not month n year).b/n what's on the computer (on Lost passport) n his current request.he later told me he didn't know of the error since he did not check carefully.anyways, he explained it is not his fault since he presented copy of birth cert at that time, n showed it again, n they concluded it is either typo or conversion error and he was given a new pp with the correct info n we edited the ds 260 with the new pp info.now, I want him to send his documents to kcc(though not requested) ,he does not have a proof of the old passport(copy or pic) pls advice how he should proceed? Local advisors told us that as long as he reported Lost passport to police, the passport number will go to interpol's site n kcc can easily verify that he actually had that passport). Though they corrected it automatically, how about the DOB error the pp officer mentioned( which he does not know of)? Will it create a problem? Pls give me a detailed explanation so that I can convince him to proceed( he already claims he is unlucky n is losing hope)
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It doesn’t make sense to me that someone had a passport with the wrong DOB listed, they used that same passport without realizing the listed DOB doesn’t match what is actually written on their birth certificate. And now claims it “is not his fault since he presented copy of birth cert at that time” when they applied for the passport. How long did they have this “passport” for before it suddenly went missing? I’m sorry to say, that story is not going to cut it. KCC has no time to be cross-checking passport information with the Interpol or any other official body for that matter. The onus is on your brother to either present that passport or a copy of it.
 
SusieQQQ said:
Are you saying that he not only lost the passport he used, but that that passport had a wrong date of birth? how wrong?

hmm, I guess he could try but there must be a reasonable chance of denial, more or less depending what country he is in. If the country is a “high fraud” country (embassies get a lot of dodgy documents or people can get fraudulent documents quite easily etc) it will be harder to be successful.
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Error is on the date only. He is ethiopian. Rest of documents r fine.pls advice me how he should approach this case?is this DOB dscrepancy grave despite the fact that he got corrected pp? Thank you for the quick response.
 
TheKey said:
This sounds suspicious. In any case, having a copy of the lost/stolen passport would have helped their case — this is noted on the entry instructions. Merely reporting a lost passport doesn’t prove that a passport was lost. Nor does it prove that it ever existed.

I can’t help but agree with your brother. It’s almost certain that his application will be denied. I wouldn’t recommend that they proceed. But in the end, it’s up to them.

Added: if the issuing agency has record of the passport, as you’ve claimed, can’t your brother request a print out of that?
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yes, he asked for it. But they said they cant give it to him. Instead, they put a stamp mentioning his previous pp is lost n it's number on the new pp 2nd page n told him that they will respond if the us embassy inquired. But does it has any use even if he managed to persuade them to give him the copy, it still had error, how grave is this mistake?
 
Getaekonew said:
Error is on the date only. He is ethiopian. Rest of documents r fine.pls advice me how he should approach this case?is this DOB dscrepancy grave despite the fact that he got corrected pp? Thank you for the quick response.
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A reminder of what the entry instructions say. No-one can guarantee he won’t be denied.

instruction 7. Failure to enter valid passport information will make you ineligible for a DV .

FAQ13. What if my passport expires or I lose it before I apply for a visa?
If your passport number changes for any reason, you will have to provide evidence of why it has changed to
KCC) before they will schedule your DV interview. If you enter a false, inaccurate, or invalid passport number on your DV entry, you will be ineligible for a DV. We suggest you make a legible photocopy of the passport you use for the entry and store it in a secure location with your entry confirmation number (FAQ #27). A photocopy alone is not proof you entered a valid passport number on your entry, but it can help you explain the situation. The final determination is made by the Consular Officer at the time of your DV interview.
 
Getaekonew said:
yes, he asked for it. But they said they cant give it to him. Instead, they put a stamp mentioning his previous pp is lost n it's number on the new pp 2nd page n told him that they will respond if the us embassy inquired. But does it has any use even if he managed to persuade them to give him the copy, it still had error, how grave is this mistake?
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You’re focusing on the error on date of birth on a passport he doesn’t have and presumably did not list as his date of birth on the entry. What you should he focusing on is his lack of proof that he had that passport in the first place. Like mom says, kcc are not going to be following things up with Interpol. I dont suppose he ever used that old passport to actually enter the US? That would at least help prove it existed.
 
Sm1smom said:
It doesn’t make sense to me that someone had a passport with the wrong DOB listed, they used that same passport without realizing the listed DOB doesn’t match what is actually written on their birth certificate. And now claims it “is not his fault since he presented copy of birth cert at that time” when they applied for the passport. How long did they have this “passport” for before it suddenly went missing? I’m sorry to say, that story is not going to cut it. KCC has no time to be cross-checking passport information with the Interpol or any other official body for that matter. The onus is on your brother to either present that passport or a copy of it.
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Thank you.he got the pp in 2018.it was me who collected his passport from emmigration office.he was not at the city at that time. N i hurriedly placed in in my car's pocket without checking.he never used that pp. When he filled the dv aplication, he called me n asked me to text him the pp number, issue n expiry date.( since he knows his DOB n name by himself) n i did so.when he found out he won, he asked me to bring the pp, but i could not find it anywhere. So we went to the emmig office to ask for new. But it was closed due to pandemic. So we filled the ds 260 with lost pp info n submitted anyway.(not to be delayed but he reopened n added the new pp recently)).when the office opened about 45 days later, we went to emm office holding police cert. He filled new ap form n when she entered it on computer, she told us there is discrepancy. this is thefirst time we knew of it.i will never forgive myself for being negligent. Please advice how we should proceed. he is ethiopian, error is ondate only,rest of documents r fine. "the key" recomended i should get the copy from emm office. they said no n instead, they stampedthe pp no n lost sign in the new pp.n told him if needed ,the embassy can request.but even if he manages to get the copy, it still had error. please advice will it impact him?
 
SusieQQQ said:
You’re focusing on the error on date of birth on a passport he doesn’t have and presumably did not list as his date of birth on the entry. What you should he focusing on is his lack of proof that he had that passport in the first place. Like mom says, kcc are not going to be following things up with Interpol. I dont suppose he ever used that old passport to actually enter the US? That would at least help prove it existed.
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No he never travelled with it. please tell me, can the error cost him his visa?
n i got a message here saying " u r awarded a trophy, first message" what does it mean please?
 
Getaekonew said:
No he never travelled with it. please tell me, can the error cost him his visa?
n i got a message here saying " u r awarded a trophy, first message" what does it mean please?
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I don’t know what more to tell you than what I posted in #1719.

the ‘trophy’ is just some forum thing
 
Thank you.he has a great life in ethiopia(his own car,house,n a stable business). He can live here...the only thing i feel sad is me being the cause for loss of his opportunity.thanks for giving me the insight.atleast now, he can save his money n time.
 
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