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tinoproductions said:
Forgive my ignorance, but hasn't 30 Sept 2020 been and gone, and pretty much nothing can be done about that? The train has left the station. Only DV2021 is being worked on now.
Happy to be corrected
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All dv2020 are waiting the last rule from judge Mehta.
He reserved temporarily 9095 visas (this number could increase or decreased)

And as per lawyers in twitter
Also he could order a relief To them, am not sure about this but everyone is waiting until April now for the final judgment
 
PhantomHigh said:
I submitted all required documents to KCC except one of the many police clearance certificates required from the countries I have been to in the last 5 years.
I have acknowledgment of receipt of application for this specific police clearance since last October but haven't heard any feedback from the Embassy regarding my application status. I'm outside the country and can't go in person to check or ask.

So after submitting all docs required, I sent a letter in PDF format to KCC explaining the whole situation. I backed that up with the actual acknowledgement of receipt and attached that into the email as well.

Do you think they could sort of "waive" that specific police clearance from that specific country since I already submitted 2 police certificates from other counties I have been in?

I know that no interviews could be scheduled until ALL document requirements have been satisfied.

Any similar situation?
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I have
I am Hong Kong citizen and currently live in Taiwan. It is necessary to submit both Hong Kong and Taiwan police certificate.
When you apply Hong Kong police certificate, you would not obtain the certificate. Instead you will have the receipt only (same as yours)
I send supported documents including receipt to KCC 1 month ago and still no response (my CN: AS8XXX)
Then I send email to consulate in Hong Kong that they have received my police cert or not. Here is the response:

The U.S. Consulate and the Hong Kong Police Force have an agreement whereby Hong Kong Police Force will forward the police certificates of immigrant visa applicants directly to the immigrant visa unit (IV Unit) of the U.S. Consulate (address: Immigrant Visa Unit, U.S. Consulate General, 26 Garden Road, Central, Hong Kong) and not to the applicant. The IV Unit retains the police certificates. It is not necessary to confirm the receipt of your Hong Kong police certificate with the Consulate.
We have an agreement with Kentucky Consular Center (KCC) that we do not send the police certificate to them. As soon as the administrative processing is complete, KCC will forward visa applicants’ visa files to Hong Kong. Therefore, you are not required to provide your Hong Kong police certificate to KCC.

Well, I don't know how can I provide my Hong Kong police certificate when having interview in Taiwan. Let's see and wait.
 
Arguing here isn’t going to change what they do when, and if DV2020 is waiting for a judgement in April before anything can be done there then it makes sense that they start on DV21 in the meanwhile. You guys also need to remember that there are literally hundreds of thousands of backlogged family visas and while one hopes they will give some priority to DV because of the sunset clause, they cannot just ignore everyone else.
 
wowongng said:
I have
I am Hong Kong citizen and currently live in Taiwan. It is necessary to submit both Hong Kong and Taiwan police certificate.
When you apply Hong Kong police certificate, you would not obtain the certificate. Instead you will have the receipt only (same as yours)
I send supported documents including receipt to KCC 1 month ago and still no response (my CN: AS8XXX)
Then I send email to consulate in Hong Kong that they have received my police cert or not. Here is the response:

The U.S. Consulate and the Hong Kong Police Force have an agreement whereby Hong Kong Police Force will forward the police certificates of immigrant visa applicants directly to the immigrant visa unit (IV Unit) of the U.S. Consulate (address: Immigrant Visa Unit, U.S. Consulate General, 26 Garden Road, Central, Hong Kong) and not to the applicant. The IV Unit retains the police certificates. It is not necessary to confirm the receipt of your Hong Kong police certificate with the Consulate.
We have an agreement with Kentucky Consular Center (KCC) that we do not send the police certificate to them. As soon as the administrative processing is complete, KCC will forward visa applicants’ visa files to Hong Kong. Therefore, you are not required to provide your Hong Kong police certificate to KCC.

Well, I don't know how can I provide my Hong Kong police certificate when having interview in Taiwan. Let's see and wait.
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Will the HK consulate not provide it to the Taiwan consulate? I would suggest emailing the IV unit at both consulates, same email, inquiring about this
 
SusieQQQ said:
Will the HK consulate not provide it to the Taiwan consulate? I would suggest emailing the IV unit at both consulates, same email, inquiring about this
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Well, I guess HK consulate would provide, right? Similar situation should be happened so many times
Agree. I will contact IV units of both consulates after receiving 2NL. Right now confirmation email of supporting doc from KCC is most important
 
tinoproductions said:
That's an interesting position to be in. You can certainly show best effort, and if the documents are never provided by the other side, you are sort of stuck. KCC is purely admin. If you get an interview you can explain this to the case officer who can suggest further actions before he issues the visa, or reject it I guess. The latter would be rather cruel if you ask me. Keep us all posted.

Which country never replied btw?
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South Africa
 
wowongng said:
I have
I am Hong Kong citizen and currently live in Taiwan. It is necessary to submit both Hong Kong and Taiwan police certificate.
When you apply Hong Kong police certificate, you would not obtain the certificate. Instead you will have the receipt only (same as yours)
I send supported documents including receipt to KCC 1 month ago and still no response (my CN: AS8XXX)
Then I send email to consulate in Hong Kong that they have received my police cert or not. Here is the response:

The U.S. Consulate and the Hong Kong Police Force have an agreement whereby Hong Kong Police Force will forward the police certificates of immigrant visa applicants directly to the immigrant visa unit (IV Unit) of the U.S. Consulate (address: Immigrant Visa Unit, U.S. Consulate General, 26 Garden Road, Central, Hong Kong) and not to the applicant. The IV Unit retains the police certificates. It is not necessary to confirm the receipt of your Hong Kong police certificate with the Consulate.
We have an agreement with Kentucky Consular Center (KCC) that we do not send the police certificate to them. As soon as the administrative processing is complete, KCC will forward visa applicants’ visa files to Hong Kong. Therefore, you are not required to provide your Hong Kong police certificate to KCC.

Well, I don't know how can I provide my Hong Kong police certificate when having interview in Taiwan. Let's see and wait.
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I think you will be fine since both parties have agreement to forward the certificates internally. But I understand your point, you need to at least know if the certificate was forwarded or not. I hope the process will go swiftly. Let us know if you get any news :)
 
SusieQQQ said:
There are agencies in SA that can get stuff done there. Stuff via the embassies always takes extraordinarily long. You can go onto one of the South Africans in usa Facebook pages to ask for recommendations of which agency to use.
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I second this. October is a while back... Agents should get you a PCC within a few weeks. It only took about 4 weeks for me to receive my SA PCC, although I applied in person.

Here's one suggestion by the way: https://apostil.co.za/police-clearance-saps/. I haven't tried it personally, but I've heard it worked for some people.
 
wowongng said:
I have
I am Hong Kong citizen and currently live in Taiwan. It is necessary to submit both Hong Kong and Taiwan police certificate.
When you apply Hong Kong police certificate, you would not obtain the certificate. Instead you will have the receipt only (same as yours)
I send supported documents including receipt to KCC 1 month ago and still no response (my CN: AS8XXX)
Then I send email to consulate in Hong Kong that they have received my police cert or not. Here is the response:

The U.S. Consulate and the Hong Kong Police Force have an agreement whereby Hong Kong Police Force will forward the police certificates of immigrant visa applicants directly to the immigrant visa unit (IV Unit) of the U.S. Consulate (address: Immigrant Visa Unit, U.S. Consulate General, 26 Garden Road, Central, Hong Kong) and not to the applicant. The IV Unit retains the police certificates. It is not necessary to confirm the receipt of your Hong Kong police certificate with the Consulate.
We have an agreement with Kentucky Consular Center (KCC) that we do not send the police certificate to them. As soon as the administrative processing is complete, KCC will forward visa applicants’ visa files to Hong Kong. Therefore, you are not required to provide your Hong Kong police certificate to KCC.

Well, I don't know how can I provide my Hong Kong police certificate when having interview in Taiwan. Let's see and wait.
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Did you apply by post or did you ask someone to hand in your application for you in person?

I want to share my own experience with you. Not exactly the same but I hope that would give you some ideas.

When I went to the Hong Kong Police to apply for my police cert in January, the staff there acknowledged the internal handling agreement that the actual cert will be forwarded to the US consulate HK directly. As the document request letter from KCC was a standard letter asking selectees to send pdfs by email directly, the staff of the HK police asked me to write down the US consulate HK address on the copy of the KCC doc request letter.

All I got when I left the HK Police HQ was a receipt of the application fee payment. Up to now, I do not and would not know if the application is successful or if the police cert has been sent to and received by the US consulate HK. I have asked the US consulate HK if they have received my police cert but they said that since I did not have a case there yet (ie no interview scheduled yet) they could not provide any answer whatsoever. I sent a copy of that payment receipt in lieu of the copy of police cert to KCC anyway.

I believe that the staff at the HK Police HQ are familiar with the whole workflow. If your application was in order, your HK police cert will probably be sent to the US consulate HK. After that, it will be up to the transfer of files between the US consulate of HK and the American Institute in Taiwan.

It would be wise to follow Susie's suggestion to inquire both organisations to confirm. They might not say specifically if they have or have not received your HK police cert yet. But at least you can get an assurance that the document flow protocol between the US consulate of HK and the American Institute in Taiwan does exist.
 
PhantomHigh said:
I think you will be fine since both parties have agreement to forward the certificates internally. But I understand your point, you need to at least know if the certificate was forwarded or not. I hope the process will go swiftly. Let us know if you get any news :)
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sure
 
Uncle33 said:
Did you apply by post or did you ask someone to hand in your application for you in person?

I want to share my own experience with you. Not exactly the same but I hope that would give you some ideas.

When I went to the Hong Kong Police to apply for my police cert in January, the staff there acknowledged the internal handling agreement that the actual cert will be forwarded to the US consulate HK directly. As the document request letter from KCC was a standard letter asking selectees to send pdfs by email directly, the staff of the HK police asked me to write down the US consulate HK address on the copy of the KCC doc request letter.

All I got when I left the HK Police HQ was a receipt of the application fee payment. Up to now, I do not and would not know if the application is successful or if the police cert has been sent to and received by the US consulate HK. I have asked the US consulate HK if they have received my police cert but they said that since I did not have a case there yet (ie no interview scheduled yet) they could not provide any answer whatsoever. I sent a copy of that payment receipt in lieu of the copy of police cert to KCC anyway.

I believe that the staff at the HK Police HQ are familiar with the whole workflow. If your application was in order, your HK police cert will probably be sent to the US consulate HK. After that, it will be up to the transfer of files between the US consulate of HK and the American Institute in Taiwan.

It would be wise to follow Susie's suggestion to inquire both organisations to confirm. They might not say specifically if they have or have not received your HK police cert yet. But at least you can get an assurance that the document flow protocol between the US consulate of HK and the American Institute in Taiwan does exist.
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My friend went to Wan Chai to complete application
Yup the problem is you would not know your police certificate is sent or not. You can only trust them.
I will inform AIT later about the police certificate which is annoying
 
Hi everybody,

I wanted to ask a tricky question, I was requested by KCC and sent the documents in the end of December 2020, after sending them I noticed on the reciprocity page for Brazil, in how to obtain the PC, they have a small line saying that applicants should provide a PC for all countries they lived for more than 6 months, not 12 months, as instructed by KCC on the email.

"Immigrant visa applicants 16 years of age or older who are nationals of or possess a current or previous residence other than Brazil, must present a police certificate, if obtainable, from all countries in which they have resided for six months or more."

I lived in another country for 8 months in 2010, so I went on and requested that certificate but it takes a long time and only this week I received it. What should I do?
Should I resend my documents to KCC? Should I send only this missing PC that I just obtained? Should I wait and present it in the interview if requested?

Thank you for your help

travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country/Brazil.html
 
Fernbend said:
Hi everybody,

I wanted to ask a tricky question, I was requested by KCC and sent the documents in the end of December 2020, after sending them I noticed on the reciprocity page for Brazil, in how to obtain the PC, they have a small line saying that applicants should provide a PC for all countries they lived for more than 6 months, not 12 months, as instructed by KCC on the email.

"Immigrant visa applicants 16 years of age or older who are nationals of or possess a current or previous residence other than Brazil, must present a police certificate, if obtainable, from all countries in which they have resided for six months or more."

I lived in another country for 8 months in 2010, so I went on and requested that certificate but it takes a long time and only this week I received it. What should I do?
Should I resend my documents to KCC? Should I send only this missing PC that I just obtained? Should I wait and present it in the interview if requested?

Thank you for your help

travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country/Brazil.html
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You can send the additional document only -- be sure to read the instructions carefully. In the body of the email you can explain that you've already sent the other required documents. I'd follow up with KCC after about 6 weeks to verify that they have received everything.
 
I have a question and I need to get it out.
My wife lived 1 year as an au pair in the United States, we never knew how to obtain a criminal record from the United States, do you know how to obtain it and present it at the interview at the embassy?
 
antonio88 said:
I have a question and I need to get it out.
My wife lived 1 year as an au pair in the United States, we never knew how to obtain a criminal record from the United States, do you know how to obtain it and present it at the interview at the embassy?
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If I am not mistaken, you need a record of the countries you've lived in for more than 6 months EXCEPT the US, no?
 
antonio88 said:
really? I never saw it say except the United States. Could you tell me where it says?


Thank you
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Right there in the instructions on the relevant section of the civil documents page

  • Note: Present and former residents of the United States should NOT obtain any police certificates covering their residence in the United States.
above the table and just in case you missed it it says again below !!

Note: Present and former residents of the United States do NOT need to submit any U.S. police certificates.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...ersity-visa-prepare-supporting-documents.html
 
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