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Hi ! My name is Hernán, I am from Uruguay and I was selected in the 2021 diversity visa program.
On Monday the KCC emailed me to send my supporting documents and they told me it takes 3-6 weeks to respond.
I wanted to know if once that time interval has passed, do you already send me an email with the date of my interview?
Thanks
 
puda said:
I would assume that Mehta is probably trying to decide on what to do for all 3 of them. Otherwise he wouldn't have pushed Goh to July 19th.

That's what Curtis said:

"It says the hearing is on all pending motions in all 3 of those referenced cases, so the answer is complicated. The Goh case is on summary judgment track instead of preliminary injunctive track, but the other 2 cases have motions for preliminary injunction pending."
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I get that. But what about when judge Mehta grants a PI for other cases? I assume Goh will get a final order right?

Because from what I understand is that a Preliminary Injunction is just preliminary and needs further briefing until a judge makes a final order unlike Goh case which was out already for a summary judgement and expecting final order after 19th?

Can anyone explain?
@Britsimon
@SusieQQQ
@Sm1smom
 
Hi All! Me and my wife are going to the interview on the 21st of July. I have been a bit mislead by various sources about how the travel back and forth between my home country and the US works in terms of abandonment of the status. I thought, that for the first 1-2 years it is more or less okay to be away for longer periods of time, but what I have read in the past days indicates, that you can get questioned even if you left for less than 180 days.
We seriously plan to move permanently to the US, but we have a lot of things to take care of and we would probably be able to do the comfortable final move by the end of 2022 and we would like to maintain our current jobs until then, however we do not want to risk abandonment.
In case our interview is successful our visa will be valid until the 21st of December, we want to do the activation trip sometime between September - November, stay for a month and then return.
Below are my questions:

1. In your experience, how relaxed is CBP with fresh DV immigrants? Are they more understanding, or do they start to question your intentions right from the beginning?
2. Is it an acceptable approach to return with our temporary stamped ''green card'' to our current country after a month, then return with the stamped passport in let's say 160 days, stay for a month again, leave for another 160 days and then make the final move? Is it still within the tolerance level if I try to explain to the CBP officer that we were just let's say shutting down our current lives here which did not let me make any extra ties with the US (like keeping an employment, I will file my taxes though) and now we are here permanently?
3. I was considering applying for the re-entry permit, but I do not really want to stay away from the states for more than a year and the wait times for biometrics is extreme from what I hear now, which beats the purpose for us really, and I also don't mind saving 1300 dollars if it is not necessary to apply for it with this plan above. What do you think?

Thank you!
 
PhantomHigh said:
I get that. But what about when judge Mehta grants a PI for other cases? I assume Goh will get a final order right?

Because from what I understand is that a Preliminary Injunction is just preliminary and needs further briefing until a judge makes a final order unlike Goh case which was out already for a summary judgement and expecting final order after 19th?

Can anyone explain?
@Britsimon
@SusieQQQ
@Sm1smom
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No one can predict the outcome.
 
PhantomHigh said:
I get that. But what about when judge Mehta grants a PI for other cases? I assume Goh will get a final order right?

Because from what I understand is that a Preliminary Injunction is just preliminary and needs further briefing until a judge makes a final order unlike Goh case which was out already for a summary judgement and expecting final order after 19th?

Can anyone explain?
@Britsimon
@SusieQQQ
@Sm1smom
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I would not try and make assumptions based on the different filing strategies of each lawsuit.

I think the weakest part of Goodluck is the PI. The standard needed for a PI is proving that the plaintiffs will suffer irreparable harm without stopping the behavior of the defendants. Since some GL cases will be processed, you can only show that SOME of them will be harmed. Its tricky, and to some extent, already argued and lost.

That is not saying GL doesn't win. I expect GL and Goh to cause action on cases that would otherwise have timed out. And then some preservation of visas will be needed. That is likely to be needed for Goh plaintiffs and certain to be needed for GL.

In the same way, Goh could win without a summary judgement, but as I said, is likely to need a preservation of visas.
 
TSU said:
Hi All! Me and my wife are going to the interview on the 21st of July. I have been a bit mislead by various sources about how the travel back and forth between my home country and the US works in terms of abandonment of the status. I thought, that for the first 1-2 years it is more or less okay to be away for longer periods of time, but what I have read in the past days indicates, that you can get questioned even if you left for less than 180 days.
We seriously plan to move permanently to the US, but we have a lot of things to take care of and we would probably be able to do the comfortable final move by the end of 2022 and we would like to maintain our current jobs until then, however we do not want to risk abandonment.
In case our interview is successful our visa will be valid until the 21st of December, we want to do the activation trip sometime between September - November, stay for a month and then return.
Below are my questions:

1. In your experience, how relaxed is CBP with fresh DV immigrants? Are they more understanding, or do they start to question your intentions right from the beginning?
2. Is it an acceptable approach to return with our temporary stamped ''green card'' to our current country after a month, then return with the stamped passport in let's say 160 days, stay for a month again, leave for another 160 days and then make the final move? Is it still within the tolerance level if I try to explain to the CBP officer that we were just let's say shutting down our current lives here which did not let me make any extra ties with the US (like keeping an employment, I will file my taxes though) and now we are here permanently?
3. I was considering applying for the re-entry permit, but I do not really want to stay away from the states for more than a year and the wait times for biometrics is extreme from what I hear now, which beats the purpose for us really, and I also don't mind saving 1300 dollars if it is not necessary to apply for it with this plan above. What do you think?

Thank you!
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People (lawyers often) make a big deal about the 6 months. Frankly that is unfounded. There are many people (susieqqq included) that entered after 6 months with no problem. And you can also be found to have abandoned your status for absences of less than 6 months.

So absences of 6 to 12 months are technically different to absences of less than 6 months, but extremely unlikely to cause a problem.
 
Britsimon said:
People (lawyers often) make a big deal about the 6 months. Frankly that is unfounded. There are many people (susieqqq included) that entered after 6 months with no problem. And you can also be found to have abandoned your status for absences of less than 6 months.

So absences of 6 to 12 months are technically different to absences of less than 6 months, but extremely unlikely to cause a problem.
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Yep, it is one year that is an issue. In my opinion you’re likely to have less issue after just one longer absence say 10 months, than repeated say 5 month absences. “I had stuff to wrap up, now it’s done and I’m back for good” really only works once, coming back in and out again raises questions as to where you really live.
 
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SusieQQQ said:
Yep, it is one year that is an issue. In my opinion you’re likely to have less issue after just one longer absence say 10 months, than repeated say 5 month absences. “I had stuff to wrap up, now it’s done and I’m back for good” really only works once, coming back in and out again raises questions as to where you really live.
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Thank you for the reply! So generally we'd be better off going for an activation, stay for a while, come back and return in 9-10 months to stay for good. I just really hope they won't send me back after I sell everything here and quit my job :D
Would going back with a soon to expire stamp at that point worsen my case, or they don't really care?
 
puda said:
No one can predict the outcome.
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Britsimon said:
I would not try and make assumptions based on the different filing strategies of each lawsuit.

I think the weakest part of Goodluck is the PI. The standard needed for a PI is proving that the plaintiffs will suffer irreparable harm without stopping the behavior of the defendants. Since some GL cases will be processed, you can only show that SOME of them will be harmed. Its tricky, and to some extent, already argued and lost.

That is not saying GL doesn't win. I expect GL and Goh to cause action on cases that would otherwise have timed out. And then some preservation of visas will be needed. That is likely to be needed for Goh plaintiffs and certain to be needed for GL.

In the same way, Goh could win without a summary judgement, but as I said, is likely to need a preservation of visas.
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Thank you @Britsimon @puda
 
Hello everyone, I just realized I missed out a zero in my title documents when I submitted my supporting documents in April.. I submitted it without being asked to by the way
Instead of 2021AF000XX… I wore 2021AF00XX…

should I send the supporting documents again?
Should I be worried?
 
Silvia Foxy said:
Hello everyone, I just realized I missed out a zero in my title documents when I submitted my supporting documents in April.. I submitted it without being asked to by the way
Instead of 2021AF000XX… I wore 2021AF00XX…

should I send the supporting documents again?
Should I be worried?
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At first l, I sent my docs without zeros at all.
Then shortly after, I resent my docs with full case numbers including leading zeros just as it appears on my 1NL.

That’s what I did.
 
PhantomHigh said:
At first l, I sent my docs without zeros at all.
Then shortly after, I resent my docs with full case numbers including leading zeros just as it appears on my 1NL.

That’s what I did.
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Alright
I resent them but I hope it won’t affect my application.. the first one was sent in April.. and then I resent them with the correct case number in June
 

Good afternoon Sm1smom,​

SusieQQQ,​

Britsimon, and other members. Im one of the lucky 2020 gc winner, thats was able to obtain Green Card miraculously, against all the odds. this Forum helped my a lot and Im very thankful for that.​

Im trying to help my friend: they won Green card( him and his wife). they are from Russia. Im reading through forum already to find info:
they have tourist VIsa, never had any issues with immigration. But all the US embassies closed for CP and they dont know what to do.
they got all the docs, second NL, basically ,waiting to be called. their visa number is good euxxxx and is current. thats what they told me.
is it possible for them to come to US with their tourist visa and try to do AOS?
I just got into whats going on, lawsuits and other stuff.
what are their options? could anyone advice ,please?
Thank you in advance, guys.
 
Autozen said:

Good afternoon Sm1smom,​

SusieQQQ,​

Britsimon, and other members. Im one of the lucky 2020 gc winner, thats was able to obtain Green Card miraculously, against all the odds. this Forum helped my a lot and Im very thankful for that.​

Im trying to help my friend: they won Green card( him and his wife). they are from Russia. Im reading through forum already to find info:
they have tourist VIsa, never had any issues with immigration. But all the US embassies closed for CP and they dont know what to do.
they got all the docs, second NL, basically ,waiting to be called. their visa number is good euxxxx and is current. thats what they told me.
is it possible for them to come to US with their tourist visa and try to do AOS?
I just got into whats going on, lawsuits and other stuff.
what are their options? could anyone advice ,please?
Thank you in advance, guys.
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It is immigration fraud to enter the US on a non immigrant visa intending to adjust status. If they are honest with CBP they will be refused entry. If they misrepresent their intentions it is fraud and carries serious penalties. It is unfortunately a tough situation with the Moscow embassy. Have they tried other embassies to see if they can take them? It’s hard but not impossibl. I read someone the other day got an appointment in Romania despite having no ties there.
 
SusieQQQ said:
It is immigration fraud to enter the US on a non immigrant visa intending to adjust status. If they are honest with CBP they will be refused entry. If they misrepresent their intentions it is fraud and carries serious penalties. It is unfortunately a tough situation with the Moscow embassy. Have they tried other embassies to see if they can take them? It’s hard but not impossibl. I read someone the other day got an appointment in Romania despite having no ties there.
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Thank You for your reply SusieQQQ. wow, I need to let them about it, I had no idea. yes, its difficult situation for them. I'll tell them about trying to go to another country.
 
I am DV2021 winner, case number AS23XXX, GOH Plaintiff. I have sent my documents in April and they haven't been processed as per the email I received from KCC last week. In order for me to improve my chances for an interview, should I..
1. Resend my documents to kccdvdocuments@state.gov?? Please note that I have already resent them last week.
2. Should I email KCCDV@state.gov and inform them that I am a GOH plaintiff and ask them to process my case?
3. Both of the above (1 & 2)?
4. None of the above?
 
DV2021 Optimist said:
I am DV2021 winner, case number AS23XXX, GOH Plaintiff. I have sent my documents in April and they haven't been processed as per the email I received from KCC last week. In order for me to improve my chances for an interview, should I..
1. Resend my documents to kccdvdocuments@state.gov?? Please note that I have already resent them last week.
2. Should I email KCCDV@state.gov and inform them that I am a GOH plaintiff and ask them to process my case?
3. Both of the above (1 & 2)?
4. None of the above?
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I did all of that.
Still nothing, they don’t even respond after one month.

I don’t think telling them that you are a plaintiff in any lawsuit would help. They only receive orders from above (Department of State) and if they have the list and are instructed to process listed plaintiffs, then they will do just that without needing confirmation from us that we are on the lawsuit.

But by all means do whatever that makes you feel more comfortable.
 
I’m not familiar with all the details of the lawsuits but isn’t this what your lawyer is supposed to be helping with? Or if as suggested you just need to wait till when/if someone gives them a list to work off there’s not much you can do. (Just being a plaintiff when nothing has been instructed to KCC/DOS by the judge yet does not get you extra consideration, correct?)
 
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