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my possibly flawed understanding was that scheduling is largely complete before the VB is released, so most of it for June interviews should have been done before the 9th. Why those 2 weeks? surely a whole month is more representatIve of a cycle in KCC’s (or NVC’s) life? I don’t understand the time frame. If we want to be critical then we need more data.
Back in the day they used to send all 2NLs in two batches in between release of the VB (usually mid month) and the end of the month. Lately they've been trickling a couple dozen cases per day, sometimes a bit more. That's how scheduling for both April and May looked like. They managed to send out around 700 cases each of those months. For June interviews (which is work done between April 9 and yesterday), they've send 135 cases so far.
 
my possibly flawed understanding was that scheduling is largely complete before the VB is released, so most of it for June interviews should have been done before the 9th. Why those 2 weeks? surely a whole month is more representatIve of a cycle in KCC’s (or NVC’s) life? I don’t understand the time frame. If we want to be critical then we need more data.

It is nevertheless pleasing to me to know that despite the ban having gone on for nearly half the fiscal year, we have almost half of available DV visas DQ for the year already with 5 months still to go. Especially bearing in mind that judging from posts here some of those DQ cases required 6 or 7 sets of docs sent (and opened and read and looked at by) KCC. I guess it’s all dependent on your perspective.
Thankyou for the information. This is very crucial to know
 
They could have, should have, etc are all personal opinions being expressed with no insight to what is really going on. Ever heard of the expression “orders from above”? To put it mildly, KCC staff are merely “foot soldiers” who do what they’re told to do by their superiors. These are contract employees who could have been pulled out to support some other under-staffed sections or initiatives once Trump’s PP were enacted. As contract employees, they could have been laid off. Yes, I’m aware of DV2020 and DV2021 selectees plights and dilemmas, I am not insensitive to their situations, it however doesn’t justify the opinions being expressed about KCC not doing anything. People honestly think the US government will continue paying workers to do nothing? I don’t think so.

Well that is 1 great point of view to consider, but to be more accurate what and more specific then KCC are doing almost nothing for the DV winners at this moment, and DV winners scheduling is very slow, and yet, KCC put themselves in this situation not us.
They are doing their work for sure, but obviously for the DV section (which has a time limit) has no plan.

Today there was an order on how to handle the backlog, DV winner's cases are rated tier 4 out of 4.
 
Bingo. No way to know, but y’all will sit and criticize them to high heaven anyway.

Question: does it make sense for KCC to be processing low CNs at embassies that don’t have imminent interview capacity rather than high CNs at those that do? Just one tiny example of something that might seem efficient to one person but mystifying to another.

21 employees dealing with over 100k applications a year, with some overlap in a year of processing and scheduling. Stop and think about that a minute. Especially when you wonder why they stopped answering the phones.
For your question (in case your mad that we criticize them)

Why would a DQ case + low number + current + embassy can conduct an interview has no 2NL VS a guy WAY higher number did conduct an interview

That's is why we are talking abiut KCC
They say interviews are conducted based on DS260 + documents submission and current numbers, but we see something else with no guidelines on how they work.
We can't magically guess how these are done.

I really wish from my heart that no one has to go through what DV2020 and 21 are witnessing, but everyone deserve to know

In the last week or 2, not a single case were scheduled: ZERO - nothing (even for embassies who are working and can accept cases)
 
Well that is 1 great point of view to consider, but to be more accurate what and more specific then KCC are doing almost nothing for the DV winners at this moment, and DV winners scheduling is very slow, and yet, KCC put themselves in this situation not us.
They are doing their work for sure, but obviously for the DV section (which has a time limit) has no plan.

Today there was an order on how to handle the backlog, DV winner's cases are rated tier 4 out of 4.


For your question (in case your mad that we criticize them)

Why would a DQ case + low number + current + embassy can conduct an interview has no 2NL VS a guy WAY higher number did conduct an interview

That's is why we are talking abiut KCC
They say interviews are conducted based on DS260 + documents submission and current numbers, but we see something else with no guidelines on how they work.
We can't magically guess how these are done.

I really wish from my heart that no one has to go through what DV2020 and 21 are witnessing, but everyone deserve to know

In the last week or 2, not a single case were scheduled: ZERO - nothing (even for embassies who are working and can accept cases)

Looks like you just want to rant and vent. Go ahead. Makes absolutely no difference to KCC whatsoever.
 
Why would a DQ case + low number + current + embassy can conduct an interview has no 2NL VS a guy WAY higher number did conduct an interview

That's is why we are talking abiut KCC
They say interviews are conducted based on DS260 + documents submission and current numbers, but we see something else with no guidelines on how they work.
We can't magically guess how these are done.
Rather than your one example, why don’t you tell us exactly what the situation of all of the 23000-odd already DQ people are, so we can list all the relevant factors and then figure out how KCC are doing it? Oh, you don’t know. Or are you just going to continue ranting based on the couple of cases you know about? Tell you what, can you guys maybe start a separate “bash KCC” thread and leave this one to constructive posts?
 
Rather than your one example, why don’t you tell us exactly what the situation of all of the 23000-odd already DQ people are, so we can list all the relevant factors and then figure out how KCC are doing it? Oh, you don’t know. Or are you just going to continue ranting based on the couple of cases you know about? Tell you what, can you guys maybe start a separate “bash KCC” thread and leave this one to constructive posts?
I will give this one (didn't know about the cases)
They have done great job in little time to manage that amount of cases.
And i hope even more cases to follow for everyone.

Just note something

Questioning the situation is never wrong, that why we have a forum to discuss and many people including me got great information.

But not because some people have questions might be hurtful and might be ignorant to anyone else they became under the microscope and under attack here, it's not a good thing to tell someone he/she is ranting.

And no one still answered my question yet.

If I offended anyone then i apologize

Good luck all
 
I will give this one (didn't know about the cases)
They have done great job in little time to manage that amount of cases.
And i hope even more cases to follow for everyone.

Just note something

Questioning the situation is never wrong, that why we have a forum to discuss and many people including me got great information.

But not because some people have questions might be hurtful and might be ignorant to anyone else they became under the microscope and under attack here, it's not a good thing to tell someone he/she is ranting.

And no one still answered my question yet.

If I offended anyone then i apologize

Good luck all
sorry while asking questions is one thing, it really does sound like a few of you are ranting, accusing KCC of being lazy, not doing their work, are doing almost nothing (these last being your particular words) etc. It‘s very tiresome and unconstructive. Not to mention hugely insulting to a very small amount of people with a very large amount of work.
 
Guys, again, we have 5 months left. We don't know what will happen. We need to remain calm and patient. I know it's hard but what do you want to do? You can sign up for some of the lawsuits if you want. Susie and Mom are not wrong here. The KCC workers are being told what to do. They do not decide to sit on their a** for the sake of not doing anything. Yes, it's moving very slowly but lawyers are working on it + no one can predict what's next. It's not a normal year, 2020 wasn't either. It's a lottery after all.

But yeah, if you think that sending the FREAKING same message x10000000 every single day on Twitter with #saveDV2021 and tagging Biden will work, you need to wake up from la la land.
 
There is a new update about visa prioritisation, with DVs in the last category. Embassies are instructed to only adjudicate a few visas from tier 3 and 4 every month. Direct quote from the text:

“However, as a result of COVID the number of visas issued in lower-priority preference categories or in such programs as the diversity visa program likely will not approach the statutory ceiling in Fiscal Year 2021.”

Full text available here: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/News/visas-news/immigrant-visa-prioritization.html
 
Today there was an order on how to handle the backlog, DV winner's cases are rated tier 4 out of 4.
This is very unfortunate news. KCC only do what they are told to do, and they can only schedule interviews for the slots that the embassies provide for them. So it seems that rather than sitting on their butts being lazy and doing nothing, if there is any sharp slowdown in scheduling it is actually due to orders from above and what they are allocated from embassies. Extremely disappointing news that makes the decision to go current and raise everyone’s hopes even more perplexing.

By the way, a link to reference the above statement would have been useful. It is here : https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/News/visas-news/immigrant-visa-prioritization.html
 
There is a new update about visa prioritisation, with DVs in the last category. Embassies are instructed to only adjudicate a few visas from tier 3 and 4 every month. Direct quote from the text:

“However, as a result of COVID the number of visas issued in lower-priority preference categories or in such programs as the diversity visa program likely will not approach the statutory ceiling in Fiscal Year 2021.”

Full text available here: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/News/visas-news/immigrant-visa-prioritization.html
posted same time! Thanks
 
Well, yes, of course, we already knew that NOT everybody will get their case processed.

They also added this :"The Department values the diversity visa program and is making every effort to process as many diversity visa cases as possible, consistent with other priorities, despite the severe operational constraints and backlog resulting from the COVID pandemic."

Also let's not forget this: "However, the prioritization plan also instructs posts to schedule and adjudicate some cases in Tier Three and Tier Four each month." I think that's VERY important considering that some embassies are still NOT processing DVs and unless I am wrong here are instructed to! It will be beneficial to people whose embassy/consulate have a VERY low number of cases to work on. (London, Montreal, Paris etc.)
 
posted same time! Thanks
Haha twins :P

While this is a huge blow, this new information does give us an insight I think. I think it’s reasonable to assume now that this was always the plan to address the IV backlog and the DV team has been hamstrung with how many cases they can process. I honestly feel very sad. I had my interview already and my visa is coming, but I feel very guilty about that. Why did I get lucky and get an interview while so many other will miss out now? :( I hope the lawsuits are successful for the plaintiffs at least. I’m feeling so sad for DV2021 :(
 
Haha twins :p

While this is a huge blow, this new information does give us an insight I think. I think it’s reasonable to assume now that this was always the plan to address the IV backlog and the DV team has been hamstrung with how many cases they can process. I honestly feel very sad. I had my interview already and my visa is coming, but I feel very guilty about that. Why did I get lucky and get an interview while so many other will miss out now? :( I hope the lawsuits are successful for the plaintiffs at least. I’m feeling so sad for DV2021 :(

well - it is always a lottery within a lottery, and there are many years that not everyone who wants an interview gets one. It is just really horrible how it’s played out this year, for different reasons than usual.

And yes the silver lining is that this came out before the lawsuit deadline has closed - though I think it’s a long shot, it’s still a shot.
 
Well, yes, of course, we already knew that NOT everybody will get their case processed.

They also added this :"The Department values the diversity visa program and is making every effort to process as many diversity visa cases as possible, consistent with other priorities, despite the severe operational constraints and backlog resulting from the COVID pandemic."

Also let's not forget this: "However, the prioritization plan also instructs posts to schedule and adjudicate some cases in Tier Three and Tier Four each month." I think that's VERY important considering that some embassies are still NOT processing DVs and unless I am wrong here are instructed to! It will be beneficial to people whose embassy/consulate have a VERY low number of cases to work on. (London, Montreal, Paris etc.)

Yeah they can’t be all things to all people. It’s probably going to be mainly beneficial to those like people from my home country (I’m not even sure tbh if the consulate is open, but if it is) where they just have a low amount of both immigrant visas in general and DV in particular, and they can probably get through most of them despite all of this. For countries with a lot of either, or a lot of both, it’s going to be disappointing. (As I type this ..l think ok, here I can see a justification for going current on the numbers.)
 
well - it is always a lottery within a lottery, and there are many years that not everyone who wants an interview gets one. It is just really horrible how it’s played out this year, for different reasons than usual.

And yes the silver lining is that this came out before the lawsuit deadline has closed - though I think it’s a long shot, it’s still a shot.
I think the saving grace might just be that the High Impact lawsuit, Goh v Blinken, is assigned to Judge Mehta. He delivered a Hail Mary for DV2020, maybe (hopefully) he’ll do the same for DV2021. People are going to miss out regardless, but hopefully they manage to get more visas issued than if there wasn’t any litigation. That would still be a win. I’ve had my little mope now, back to positivity & hoping for the best <3
 
Yeah they can’t be all things to all people. It’s probably going to be mainly beneficial to those like people from my home country (I’m not even sure tbh if the consulate is open, but if it is) where they just have a low amount of both immigrant visas in general and DV in particular, and they can probably get through most of them despite all of this. For countries with a lot of either, or a lot of both, it’s going to be disappointing. (As I type this ..l think ok, here I can see a justification for going current on the numbers.)
According to what the note is saying, even with a high number of immigrant visa, they would STILL have to schedule some. We always knew that they were prioritizing fiance visas etc. Now at least they are also saying that yes, DV + immigrant are within tier 4 BUT they still have to work on them! Tier 4 still equals working on cases. Unfortunately, as being noted, it will only be beneficial to very low number of winners per country. I am thinking about Canada for example or the UK. If you are in a country with even over 500 winners, I dount that they would ever be able to process all of them! So I can't even think of countries with over 4,000. Not going to happen unless the lawyers are able to do something. It's a long shot.
 
According to what the note is saying, even with a high number of immigrant visa, they would STILL have to schedule some. We always knew that they were prioritizing fiance visas etc. Now at least they are also saying that yes, DV + immigrant are within tier 4 BUT they still have to work on them! Tier 4 still equals working on cases.
yes, they will still schedule some, but its only going to be some.They did say they won’t reach the ceiling. And remember tier 4 includes employment visas too.

Right...waiting for the next round where everyone calls their embassy to find out how many DV slots they’re allocating ...
 
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