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It looks like we only have 2 people in the forum who will be interviewed in October. Hope November will have more people.
 
Cheap Immigrant air tickets to the US at IOM

Hullo members,

I just got info from a 2010 winner that there are cheap one way air tickets bought from IOM. I understand the price was 500$ per immigrant in 2010. Is there any one who knows the latest fee?

Am told the procedure is, register at IOM Westlands after you get your visa, your name is then sent to Geneva for approval that you are a true immigrant, after approval you pay for ticket at KCB, then the ticket is issued. I understand they can also just send it to your email after it is issued. Especially for some of us from far (Uganda), we do not have to wait for the ticket. They can send it to you.

Can some one please verify this info?


Note: By the way, for us Ugandans,we have to go to Nairobi and begin the journey from there. The ticket is not from Entebbe. The flight is British Airways.
 
The 2012 interview stories have dried up. I wonder whats up. Infact, it would be better to know a story from some one who was denied a visa so that you style up in that area.
 
How it was

Immigrant Number Use for Visa Issuances and Adjustments of Status in the Diversity Immigrant Category Fiscal Years 2001-2010
[TABLE="class: grid, width: 1000, align: left"]
[TR]
[TD]Foreign State[/TD]
[TD]2001[/TD]
[TD]2002[/TD]
[TD]2003[/TD]
[TD]2004[/TD]
[TD]2005[/TD]
[TD]2006[/TD]
[TD]2007[/TD]
[TD]2008[/TD]
[TD]2009[/TD]
[TD]2010[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Algeria[/TD]
[TD]441[/TD]
[TD]572[/TD]
[TD]343[/TD]
[TD]300[/TD]
[TD]420[/TD]
[TD]476[/TD]
[TD]338[/TD]
[TD]823[/TD]
[TD]798[/TD]
[TD]797[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Angola[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Benin[/TD]
[TD]41[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]59[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]84[/TD]
[TD]139[/TD]
[TD]121[/TD]
[TD]183[/TD]
[TD]198[/TD]
[TD]223[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Botswana[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Burkina Faso[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]53[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]117[/TD]
[TD]92[/TD]
[TD]109[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Burundi[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cameroon[/TD]
[TD]353[/TD]
[TD]460[/TD]
[TD]526[/TD]
[TD]495[/TD]
[TD]626[/TD]
[TD]804[/TD]
[TD]748[/TD]
[TD]1,190[/TD]
[TD]1,530[/TD]
[TD]1,581[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cape Verde[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Central African Republic[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Chad[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Comoros[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]DRC[/TD]
[TD]154[/TD]
[TD]169[/TD]
[TD]288[/TD]
[TD]67[/TD]
[TD]296[/TD]
[TD]354[/TD]
[TD]317[/TD]
[TD]511[/TD]
[TD]601[/TD]
[TD]924[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Congo[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]27[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ivory Coast[/TD]
[TD]70[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]117[/TD]
[TD]62[/TD]
[TD]89[/TD]
[TD]103[/TD]
[TD]138[/TD]
[TD]194[/TD]
[TD]215[/TD]
[TD]230[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Djibouti[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Egypt[/TD]
[TD]1,284[/TD]
[TD]1,106[/TD]
[TD]982[/TD]
[TD]1,726[/TD]
[TD]3,511[/TD]
[TD]3,538[/TD]
[TD]3,527[/TD]
[TD]3,310[/TD]
[TD]3,651[/TD]
[TD]3,253[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Equatorial Guinea[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Eritrea[/TD]
[TD]311[/TD]
[TD]96[/TD]
[TD]142[/TD]
[TD]94[/TD]
[TD]168[/TD]
[TD]162[/TD]
[TD]194[/TD]
[TD]302[/TD]
[TD]392[/TD]
[TD]368[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ethiopia[/TD]
[TD]3,464[/TD]
[TD]3,222[/TD]
[TD]3,784[/TD]
[TD]3,659[/TD]
[TD]3,492[/TD]
[TD]3,502[/TD]
[TD]3,248[/TD]
[TD]3,549[/TD]
[TD]3,690[/TD]
[TD]3,774[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Gabon[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Gambia[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ghana[/TD]
[TD]1,125[/TD]
[TD]1,809[/TD]
[TD]1,610[/TD]
[TD]805[/TD]
[TD]1,134[/TD]
[TD]1,209[/TD]
[TD]978[/TD]
[TD]1,868[/TD]
[TD]1,912[/TD]
[TD]2,660[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Guinea[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]49[/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]109[/TD]
[TD]86[/TD]
[TD]268[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Guinea Bissau[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kenya[/TD]
[TD]1,014[/TD]
[TD]1,487[/TD]
[TD]2,272[/TD]
[TD]1,993[/TD]
[TD]1,786[/TD]
[TD]1,807[/TD]
[TD]1,333[/TD]
[TD]2,187[/TD]
[TD]2,365[/TD]
[TD]2,420[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Lesotho[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Liberia[/TD]
[TD]314[/TD]
[TD]461[/TD]
[TD]439[/TD]
[TD]488[/TD]
[TD]309[/TD]
[TD]388[/TD]
[TD]507[/TD]
[TD]580[/TD]
[TD]831[/TD]
[TD]848[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Libya[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]55[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]56[/TD]
[TD]70[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Madagascar[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]27[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Malawi[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mali[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mauritania[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mauritius[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Morocco[/TD]
[TD]3,365[/TD]
[TD]1,205[/TD]
[TD]2,045[/TD]
[TD]1,753[/TD]
[TD]2,243[/TD]
[TD]1,831[/TD]
[TD]1,672[/TD]
[TD]2,129[/TD]
[TD]2,004[/TD]
[TD]1,782[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mozambique[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Namibia[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Niger[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nigeria[/TD]
[TD]2,854[/TD]
[TD]2,694[/TD]
[TD]3,386[/TD]
[TD]3,335[/TD]
[TD]2,528[/TD]
[TD]3,271[/TD]
[TD]3,183[/TD]
[TD]3,425[/TD]
[TD]3,275[/TD]
[TD]2,834[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rwanda[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]44[/TD]
[TD]32[/TD]
[TD]65[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sao Tome & Principe[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Senegal[/TD]
[TD]98[/TD]
[TD]58[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]66[/TD]
[TD]74[/TD]
[TD]71[/TD]
[TD]104[/TD]
[TD]163[/TD]
[TD]128[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Seychells[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sierra Leone[/TD]
[TD]776[/TD]
[TD]813[/TD]
[TD]146[/TD]
[TD]159[/TD]
[TD]138[/TD]
[TD]175[/TD]
[TD]206[/TD]
[TD]438[/TD]
[TD]547[/TD]
[TD]314[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Somalia[/TD]
[TD]376[/TD]
[TD]211[/TD]
[TD]98[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]61[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]70[/TD]
[TD]71[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]South Africa[/TD]
[TD]201[/TD]
[TD]265[/TD]
[TD]342[/TD]
[TD]132[/TD]
[TD]161[/TD]
[TD]164[/TD]
[TD]151[/TD]
[TD]235[/TD]
[TD]301[/TD]
[TD]303[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Southern Sudan[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sudan[/TD]
[TD]861[/TD]
[TD]611[/TD]
[TD]511[/TD]
[TD]223[/TD]
[TD]384[/TD]
[TD]359[/TD]
[TD]279[/TD]
[TD]502[/TD]
[TD]592[/TD]
[TD]557[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Swaziland[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tanzania[/TD]
[TD]115[/TD]
[TD]137[/TD]
[TD]191[/TD]
[TD]83[/TD]
[TD]104[/TD]
[TD]122[/TD]
[TD]81[/TD]
[TD]72[/TD]
[TD]137[/TD]
[TD]65[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Togo[/TD]
[TD]451[/TD]
[TD]564[/TD]
[TD]1,434[/TD]
[TD]1,314[/TD]
[TD]1,084[/TD]
[TD]458[/TD]
[TD]468[/TD]
[TD]469[/TD]
[TD]483[/TD]
[TD]507[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tunisia[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]46[/TD]
[TD]47[/TD]
[TD]46[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]53[/TD]
[TD]68[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Uganda[/TD]
[TD]66[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]73[/TD]
[TD]98[/TD]
[TD]96[/TD]
[TD]122[/TD]
[TD]152[/TD]
[TD]170[/TD]
[TD]158[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Zambia[/TD]
[TD]61[/TD]
[TD]55[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]39[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]27[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]65[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]41[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Zimbabwe[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]51[/TD]
[TD]47[/TD]
[TD]47[/TD]
[TD]69[/TD]
[TD]84[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]47[/TD]
[TD]96[/TD]
[TD]65[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Africa Total[/TD]
[TD]18,106[/TD]
[TD]16,407[/TD]
[TD]19,227[/TD]
[TD]17,146[/TD]
[TD]19,118[/TD]
[TD]19,548[/TD]
[TD]18,046[/TD]
[TD]22,960[/TD]
[TD]24,648[/TD]
[TD]24,745[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Queries regarding the above Stats
1:Are Sao Tome & Principe/Lesotho inhabitants that unlucky such as to not secure DV visas for 10 straight years?
2:Comoros/Cape Verde/Guinea Bissau/Seychelles securing single digits with reference to securing of visas?

Lessons regarding the above Stats
1:Egypt & Ethiopia have time & again breached the 3,500 cap.
2:Anglophone states appear to have an advantage(perhaps they do apply in greater numbers).
3:It seems Africa's share is on the up & up.

Feel free to contribute...
 
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Obeezyb said:
Immigrant Number Use for Visa Issuances and Adjustments of Status in the Diversity Immigrant Category Fiscal Years 2001-2010
[TABLE="class: grid, width: 1000, align: left"]
[TR]
[TD]Foreign State[/TD]
[TD]2001[/TD]
[TD]2002[/TD]
[TD]2003[/TD]
[TD]2004[/TD]
[TD]2005[/TD]
[TD]2006[/TD]
[TD]2007[/TD]
[TD]2008[/TD]
[TD]2009[/TD]
[TD]2010[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Algeria[/TD]
[TD]441[/TD]
[TD]572[/TD]
[TD]343[/TD]
[TD]300[/TD]
[TD]420[/TD]
[TD]476[/TD]
[TD]338[/TD]
[TD]823[/TD]
[TD]798[/TD]
[TD]797[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Angola[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Benin[/TD]
[TD]41[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]59[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]84[/TD]
[TD]139[/TD]
[TD]121[/TD]
[TD]183[/TD]
[TD]198[/TD]
[TD]223[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Botswana[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Burkina Faso[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]53[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]117[/TD]
[TD]92[/TD]
[TD]109[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Burundi[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cameroon[/TD]
[TD]353[/TD]
[TD]460[/TD]
[TD]526[/TD]
[TD]495[/TD]
[TD]626[/TD]
[TD]804[/TD]
[TD]748[/TD]
[TD]1,190[/TD]
[TD]1,530[/TD]
[TD]1,581[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cape Verde[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Central African Republic[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Chad[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Comoros[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]DRC[/TD]
[TD]154[/TD]
[TD]169[/TD]
[TD]288[/TD]
[TD]67[/TD]
[TD]296[/TD]
[TD]354[/TD]
[TD]317[/TD]
[TD]511[/TD]
[TD]601[/TD]
[TD]924[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Congo[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]27[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ivory Coast[/TD]
[TD]70[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]117[/TD]
[TD]62[/TD]
[TD]89[/TD]
[TD]103[/TD]
[TD]138[/TD]
[TD]194[/TD]
[TD]215[/TD]
[TD]230[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Djibouti[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Egypt[/TD]
[TD]1,284[/TD]
[TD]1,106[/TD]
[TD]982[/TD]
[TD]1,726[/TD]
[TD]3,511[/TD]
[TD]3,538[/TD]
[TD]3,527[/TD]
[TD]3,310[/TD]
[TD]3,651[/TD]
[TD]3,253[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Equatorial Guinea[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Eritrea[/TD]
[TD]311[/TD]
[TD]96[/TD]
[TD]142[/TD]
[TD]94[/TD]
[TD]168[/TD]
[TD]162[/TD]
[TD]194[/TD]
[TD]302[/TD]
[TD]392[/TD]
[TD]368[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ethiopia[/TD]
[TD]3,464[/TD]
[TD]3,222[/TD]
[TD]3,784[/TD]
[TD]3,659[/TD]
[TD]3,492[/TD]
[TD]3,502[/TD]
[TD]3,248[/TD]
[TD]3,549[/TD]
[TD]3,690[/TD]
[TD]3,774[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Gabon[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Gambia[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ghana[/TD]
[TD]1,125[/TD]
[TD]1,809[/TD]
[TD]1,610[/TD]
[TD]805[/TD]
[TD]1,134[/TD]
[TD]1,209[/TD]
[TD]978[/TD]
[TD]1,868[/TD]
[TD]1,912[/TD]
[TD]2,660[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Guinea[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]49[/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]109[/TD]
[TD]86[/TD]
[TD]268[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Guinea Bissau[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kenya[/TD]
[TD]1,014[/TD]
[TD]1,487[/TD]
[TD]2,272[/TD]
[TD]1,993[/TD]
[TD]1,786[/TD]
[TD]1,807[/TD]
[TD]1,333[/TD]
[TD]2,187[/TD]
[TD]2,365[/TD]
[TD]2,420[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Lesotho[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Liberia[/TD]
[TD]314[/TD]
[TD]461[/TD]
[TD]439[/TD]
[TD]488[/TD]
[TD]309[/TD]
[TD]388[/TD]
[TD]507[/TD]
[TD]580[/TD]
[TD]831[/TD]
[TD]848[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Libya[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]55[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]56[/TD]
[TD]70[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Madagascar[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]27[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Malawi[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mali[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mauritania[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mauritius[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Morocco[/TD]
[TD]3,365[/TD]
[TD]1,205[/TD]
[TD]2,045[/TD]
[TD]1,753[/TD]
[TD]2,243[/TD]
[TD]1,831[/TD]
[TD]1,672[/TD]
[TD]2,129[/TD]
[TD]2,004[/TD]
[TD]1,782[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mozambique[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Namibia[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Niger[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nigeria[/TD]
[TD]2,854[/TD]
[TD]2,694[/TD]
[TD]3,386[/TD]
[TD]3,335[/TD]
[TD]2,528[/TD]
[TD]3,271[/TD]
[TD]3,183[/TD]
[TD]3,425[/TD]
[TD]3,275[/TD]
[TD]2,834[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rwanda[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]44[/TD]
[TD]32[/TD]
[TD]65[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sao Tome & Principe[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Senegal[/TD]
[TD]98[/TD]
[TD]58[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]66[/TD]
[TD]74[/TD]
[TD]71[/TD]
[TD]104[/TD]
[TD]163[/TD]
[TD]128[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Seychells[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sierra Leone[/TD]
[TD]776[/TD]
[TD]813[/TD]
[TD]146[/TD]
[TD]159[/TD]
[TD]138[/TD]
[TD]175[/TD]
[TD]206[/TD]
[TD]438[/TD]
[TD]547[/TD]
[TD]314[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Somalia[/TD]
[TD]376[/TD]
[TD]211[/TD]
[TD]98[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]61[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]70[/TD]
[TD]71[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]South Africa[/TD]
[TD]201[/TD]
[TD]265[/TD]
[TD]342[/TD]
[TD]132[/TD]
[TD]161[/TD]
[TD]164[/TD]
[TD]151[/TD]
[TD]235[/TD]
[TD]301[/TD]
[TD]303[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Southern Sudan[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sudan[/TD]
[TD]861[/TD]
[TD]611[/TD]
[TD]511[/TD]
[TD]223[/TD]
[TD]384[/TD]
[TD]359[/TD]
[TD]279[/TD]
[TD]502[/TD]
[TD]592[/TD]
[TD]557[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Swaziland[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tanzania[/TD]
[TD]115[/TD]
[TD]137[/TD]
[TD]191[/TD]
[TD]83[/TD]
[TD]104[/TD]
[TD]122[/TD]
[TD]81[/TD]
[TD]72[/TD]
[TD]137[/TD]
[TD]65[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Togo[/TD]
[TD]451[/TD]
[TD]564[/TD]
[TD]1,434[/TD]
[TD]1,314[/TD]
[TD]1,084[/TD]
[TD]458[/TD]
[TD]468[/TD]
[TD]469[/TD]
[TD]483[/TD]
[TD]507[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tunisia[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]46[/TD]
[TD]47[/TD]
[TD]46[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]53[/TD]
[TD]68[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Uganda[/TD]
[TD]66[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]73[/TD]
[TD]98[/TD]
[TD]96[/TD]
[TD]122[/TD]
[TD]152[/TD]
[TD]170[/TD]
[TD]158[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Zambia[/TD]
[TD]61[/TD]
[TD]55[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]39[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]27[/TD]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]65[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]41[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Zimbabwe[/TD]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]51[/TD]
[TD]47[/TD]
[TD]47[/TD]
[TD]69[/TD]
[TD]84[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]47[/TD]
[TD]96[/TD]
[TD]65[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Africa Total[/TD]
[TD]18,106[/TD]
[TD]16,407[/TD]
[TD]19,227[/TD]
[TD]17,146[/TD]
[TD]19,118[/TD]
[TD]19,548[/TD]
[TD]18,046[/TD]
[TD]22,960[/TD]
[TD]24,648[/TD]
[TD]24,745[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Queries regarding the above Stats
1:Are Sao Tome & Principe/Lesotho inhabitants that unlucky such as to not secure DV visas for 10 straight years?
2:Comoros/Cape Verde/Guinea Bissau/Seychelles securing single digits with reference to securing of visas?

Lessons regarding the above Stats
1:Egypt & Ethiopia have time & again breached the 3,500 cap.
2:Anglophone states appear to have an advantage(perhaps they do apply in greater numbers).
3:It seems Africa's share is on the up & up.

Feel free to contribute...[/QUOTE


Wow Obz, you deserve a gold medal. That means they have the discretion to bend the rules. I can see that all the visa balances are transfered to other countries with a high immigrant rate.
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Wow Obz, you deserve a gold medal. That means they have the discretion to bend the rules. I can see that all the visa balances are transfered to other countries with a high immigrant rate.

Wow Obz, you deserve a gold medal.
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(Drums)...and the winner is..........................

That means they have the discretion to bend the rules.
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fortunately/unfortunately,that's how it is.

I can see that all the visa balances are transfered to other countries with a high immigrant rate.
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hmmmm.I wouldn't rush to assume that since only those 2 states have gone through that barrier.Perhaps their COs are more lenient/highly efficient or the interviewees are that good..who's to tell.
 
IOM cheap tickets

Ash 2013 said:
Hullo members,

I just got info from a 2010 winner that there are cheap one way air tickets bought from IOM. I understand the price was 500$ per immigrant in 2010. Is there any one who knows the latest fee?
...
Note: By the way, for us Ugandans,we have to go to Nairobi and begin the journey from there. The ticket is not from Entebbe. The flight is British Airways.
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This is a good deal, hope its still available. I think Ugandans should check with the IOM office in Kampala (on Mackenzie Vale, Kololo), to see if it offers a similar arrangement. Also, please note, that flying BA, means you need to apply for a UK transit visa.
 
uganda1 said:
This is a good deal, hope its still available. I think Ugandans should check with the IOM office in Kampala (on Mackenzie Vale, Kololo), to see if it offers a similar arrangement. Also, please note, that flying BA, means you need to apply for a UK transit visa.
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Thanks for this info Ug1. Will check out IOM.
 
uganda1 said:
According to the DV site, there are 513 selectees for DV2013 from UG (http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/types/types_5715.html). How come we only seem to be 3 or 4 on this list. How does one get the word out to invite more participants to share their experiences?
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Good question. I have also been wondering. I also do not know how to get others to come on board. Somehow, people just find their way to this site. So it is strange that in Uganda, people hardly know this site. They r really missing alot.
 
Obeezyb said:
Wow Obz, you deserve a gold medal. That means they have the discretion to bend the rules. I can see that all the visa balances are transfered to other countries with a high immigrant rate.

(Drums)...and the winner is..........................

fortunately/unfortunately,that's how it is.

hmmmm.I wouldn't rush to assume that since only those 2 states have gone through that barrier.Perhaps their COs are more lenient/highly efficient or the interviewees are that good..who's to tell.
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May be the interviewees are too good. I guess there is also stereotyping. For example our brothers from some countries outside East Africa are over scrutinized. If you read their experiences. But a Country like Ethiopia seems to have straight forward people. There is also the refugee issue. So I guess the CO also takes that into consideration.
 
uganda1 said:
An sad account of visa's being denied on academic grounds, after you've paid so much. Apparently, it's not just about completing High School, as stated on the website, but when you get to the embassy, they are concerned about what grade you got. Check out this account for some DV 2012 applicants from Kenya.
http://www.mwakilishi.com/content/b...n-embassy-nairobi-and-green-card-lottery.html
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It's a pity. Just thank God that you got this info before interviews. I can imagine those who do not know this. They will be bounced for sure.
 
Academic grade

Ash 2013 said:
It's a pity. Just thank God that you got this info before interviews. I can imagine those who do not know this. They will be bounced for sure.
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Indeed, anyone not sure of their grades (borderline scores), should focus on the work experience requirement to get thru.
 
uganda1 said:
Indeed, anyone not sure of their grades (borderline scores), should focus on the work experience requirement to get thru.
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Yea, they should try their luck. From what i have read, it is not easy to qualify using work experience. Come to think of it, they say inorder to qualify, you should be working in a field that needs 2 years training. Question is, do they give certificates for the training? Can the embassy recorgnise such training certificates since they are not given by the national examinations body? What kind of job can you do if you do not have a high school cert?

From the above, it is better not to waste time or money if one does not have education docs.
 
Ash 2013 said:
Yea, they should try their luck. From what i have read, it is not easy to qualify using work experience. Come to think of it, they say inorder to qualify, you should be working in a field that needs 2 years training. Question is, do they give certificates for the training? Can the embassy recorgnise such training certificates since they are not given by the national examinations body? What kind of job can you do if you do not have a high school cert?

From the above, it is better not to waste time or money if one does not have education docs.
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Ash, two years' training means for example to become an accountant you have to do say a degree in accounting which takes at least 2 years to complete. This therefore means you qualify to do the job because you have received the academic facilitation to do it. So your training certificate (as you put it) should be your degree, diploma in accounting. What i don't understand though is why they refuse to consider all these qualifications above the high school.
 
catchme said:
Ash, two years' training means for example to become an accountant you have to do say a degree in accounting which takes at least 2 years to complete. This therefore means you qualify to do the job because you have received the academic facilitation to do it. So your training certificate (as you put it) should be your degree, diploma in accounting. What i don't understand though is why they refuse to consider all these qualifications above the high school.
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Am told they don't care whether you went through all schools and found a sign post where they have written' NO SCHOOL AHEAD' meaning you have a PHD. What they want is your high school cert. Now that almost every one who applied has a high school cert, they have decided to knock people off using the quality of the cert.

As for the training, it still boils down to having a high school cert before you can obtain the 2 years training. Unless there are courses which are done basing on primary school documents. The requirement of the 2 year training doesn't make any sense to me because the qualifying jobs listed on the website some how need a high school diploma before enrolling for the 2 years training.
 
Reality check...but I would prefer cash:-P

Ash 2013 said:
Am told they don't care whether you went through all schools and found a sign post where they have written' NO SCHOOL AHEAD' meaning you have a PHD. What they want is your high school cert. Now that almost every one who applied has a high school cert, they have decided to knock people off using the quality of the cert.

As for the training, it still boils down to having a high school cert before you can obtain the 2 years training. Unless there are courses which are done basing on primary school documents. The requirement of the 2 year training doesn't make any sense to me because the qualifying jobs listed on the website some how need a high school diploma before enrolling for the 2 years training.
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Am told they don't care whether you went through all schools and found a sign post where they have written' NO SCHOOL AHEAD' meaning you have a PHD.
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and she has a sense of humor!!!:D

Now that almost every one who applied has a high school cert, they have decided to knock people off using the quality of the cert.
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By all means,people have to be knocked off,be it education..C & above,missing a dot on ur signature,typos on ur DoB...the list is endless.

Unless there are courses which are done basing on primary school documents
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u can sit for your MCSE/CCNA exams without ur high sch cert & will be ready for the job market as compared to the one who has a diploma/degree in IT.I've read of grade 8 students who've already sat for & passed their A+ exams.

The requirement of the 2 year training doesn't make any sense to me because the qualifying jobs listed on the website some how need a high school diploma before enrolling for the 2 years training
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Talk about being set-up!!!!Either way,they must have guidelines & this was the best that they could come up with so far.probably those guidelines weren't tailored for DV selectees rather trying to fit in DV selectees into the DoL mould.

All in all,its not our party,we r guests & thus we should behave accordingly:(.
 
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