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DV 2013 winners from Uganda, please holla!

Prosperity bound

catchme said:
Hi Ash, Obeez, there was a link posted here yesterday. Well i followed it and also read the comments on the link, boy oh boy. The title i think was "winning the lottery and losing big" The story basically was about how we leave our lives here in our countries and go to America to work our butts off and struggle with life. And the comments followed. Some testimonies from people who were living comfortably in their home countries but are now living like peasants in the Us and had decided to go back. Some people even blamed their troubles (unemployment) on immigrants. They called us fools, dreamers etc. That the program is aimed at getting low wage labour for the US. That we have degrees even better education than some of them but we go and flip burgers. I don't mean to discourage you but you asked me, so i have told you. Personally i felt so bad.
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Truth be told,if u r set where u r,then there's no need to to leave.But the fact that u applied for the lottery meant that u wanted something better!!There r no guarantees that it will be rosy over there,we'll all have to hustle like everyone else.If u were a billionaire,would u apply for the DV;ur guess is as good as mine

U have to prep urself to start from the bottom coz they (Americans) do prefer their own & by their own,I mean education/experience_believe me ,I've heard it over & over;(who does not prefer their own!!!).For sure,if u studied at their universities,have their accent,straight up you'll be ahead of the pack.But you could be lucky & land a better gig than ur current one.It would be an illusion to think one can go there with ur afro accent & be in PR!!!U can even see it on CNN_;Zain Virjee, Jeff koinange ,they studied in the US & thus would not estrange the US audience.

With regard to discrimination,it is not new,indeed everywhere else, we'll face tribal,racial,gender,creed discrimination et al so just prep to deal with it coz there will always be haters.

With regard to the mama in that clip,she can always go back,right?

The other lady talking about US govt aiding DV winners!!! the stuff dreams r made of_they do have enough of their own problems to worry about us unless we are terrorists.They've already given visas,do we want more?

Personally,I'm not looking back,the only movement I can make is upwards thus skybound.If it doesn't work out,u could always come back.

Cheers.
 
catchme said:
Hi Ash, Obeez, there was a link posted here yesterday. Well i followed it and also read the comments on the link, boy oh boy. The title i think was "winning the lottery and losing big" The story basically was about how we leave our lives here in our countries and go to America to work our butts off and struggle with life. And the comments followed. Some testimonies from people who were living comfortably in their home countries but are now living like peasants in the Us and had decided to go back. Some people even blamed their troubles (unemployment) on immigrants. They called us fools, dreamers etc. That the program is aimed at getting low wage labour for the US. That we have degrees even better education than some of them but we go and flip burgers. I don't mean to discourage you but you asked me, so i have told you. Personally i felt so bad.
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Hi Catchme, it is good you landed on that info. That is what preparation is all about. You ain't ambushed. I totally agree with Obeezyb, you first try, if u fail u come back. But do not fail to try.
 
All of a sudden, the days seem to be running fast. Am surprised that we haven't heard of any second NL being issued as yet. Wonder what KCC is upto.
 
Coooongs to all our 2013 pioneers! We are waiting for your experiences! Keep the info coming. Good luck to you all!
 
uganda1 said:
Some of us with high CNs will have to wait till 2013 to hear from them about the 2NL, so not stressing yet.
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True.The only positive thing with a high CN is the wealth of info you will have accumulated by the time you go n face the music.
 
Truth b told

Ash 2013 said:
True.The only positive thing with a high CN is the wealth of info you will have accumulated by the time you go n face the music.
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Well spoken;such words have never rang truer....speak my sister:p
 
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Lets the numbers do the talking:p

catchme said:
Yeah and the visas too keep running out while you are on the waiting bench.:(:(:(
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!! if this ship sinks,I'm tagging u along to our watery graves;)

Immigrant Number Use for Visa Issuances and Adjustments of Status in the Diversity Immigrant Category Fiscal Years 1995-2010

Fiscal year1995199619971998199920002001200220032004200520062007200820092010
Grand total55,058 54,16255,02751,56554,11547,71545,45043,36850,81048,04448,15146,14540,07646,63348,03051,312

Yea am warming the bench & when I get off it I'll b on fire(which element can stand fire??):cool:

Once again,such words have never rang truer.
 
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Obeezyb said:
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!! if this ship sinks,I'm tagging u along to our watery graves;)

Immigrant Number Use for Visa Issuances and Adjustments of Status in the Diversity Immigrant Category Fiscal Years 1995-2010

Fiscal year1995199619971998199920002001200220032004200520062007200820092010
Grand total55,058 54,16255,02751,56554,11547,71545,45043,36850,81048,04448,15146,14540,07646,63348,03051,312

Yea am warming the bench & when I get off it I'll b on fire(which element can stand fire??):cool:

Once again,such words have never rang truer.
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Good stuff Obeez.
 
Obeezyb said:
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!! if this ship sinks,I'm tagging u along to our watery graves;)

Immigrant Number Use for Visa Issuances and Adjustments of Status in the Diversity Immigrant Category Fiscal Years 1995-2010

Fiscal year1995199619971998199920002001200220032004200520062007200820092010
Grand total55,058 54,16255,02751,56554,11547,71545,45043,36850,81048,04448,15146,14540,07646,63348,03051,312

Yea am warming the bench & when I get off it I'll b on fire(which element can stand fire??):cool:

Once again,such words have never rang truer.
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Good job Ob
 
catchme said:
Yeah and the visas too keep running out while you are on the waiting bench.:(:(:(
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I like that. But I doubt that one can go to the embassy and they simply bounce you that visas are over. Much as the US website says so, I do not think it has ever happened otherwise we would have read it some where on the forum. With the denials, every one gets a chance. Cause one person denied a visa creates a chance for the next person with a high CN.
 
Visa instructions for immigrants visa applicants

VISA INSTRUCTIONS FOR IMMIGRANT VISA APPLICANTS

This office has received a petition entitling you to immigrant visa classification as an alien proceeding to the United States. To prepare for your interview appointment with a consular officer, please read and follow carefully the instructions below.

FIRST: The total fee for an immigrant visa is U.S. $330 or the local currency equivalent. Each applicant must be prepared to pay this fee on the appointment date.

SECOND: All documents not in English, or in the official language of the country in which application for a visa is being made, must be accompanied by certified English translations. Translations must be certified by a competent translator and sworn to be before a Notary Public.
Obtain the following documents on this checklist which pertain to you. Do NOT send them to this office.


PASSPORT: A passport must be valid for travel to the United States and must have at least six months validity beyond the issuance date of the visa. Children may be included in a parent’s passport, but if over the age of 16, they must have their photograph attached to the passport or their own passport.

BIRTH CERTIFICATE: One certified copy of the birth certificate of each person named in the application is required. Birth records must be presented for all unmarried children under age 21, even if they are not applying for a visa at this time. The certificate must state the date and place of birth and names of both parents.

UNOBTAINABLE BIRTH CERTIFICATES: If an official birth certificate is not obtainable, present the best possible secondary evidence, such as a baptismal certificate, hospital certificate, school records and/or a notarized affidavit from your parents.

POLICE CERTIFICATES: Each applicant aged 16 years or over is required to submit a police certificate from the police authorities of each locality of the country of the applicant’s nationality or current residence where the applicant has resided for at least six months since attaining the age of sixteen. Police certificates are also required from all other countries where the applicant has resided at least one year. A police certificate must also be obtained from the police authorities of any place where the applicant has been arrested for any reason, regardless of the length of residence. Police certificates from certain countries are considered unobtainable. The consular office will advise you about any particular country.

COURT AND PRISON RECORDS: Persons convicted of a crime must obtain a certified copy of each court record and any prison record, regardless that they may have benefited from amnesty or pardon.

MILITARY RECORDS: A certified copy of any military record is required.

PHOTOGRAPHS: Two (2) photographs are required. The photographs must be a recent likeness, 2 by 2 inches in size, unmounted, with no head covering, and showing a full, front-face view against a light background. Either color or black and white photographs are acceptable. The applicant must sign (full name) the reverse side of each photograph.

MARRIAGE CERTIFICATES: If you were married previously, obtain one certified copy of your marriage certificate(s), and one certified copy of the divorce decree or death certificate to prove the dissolution of each such prior marriage.

EVIDENCE OF SUPPORT: Evidence that will show that you and your children, if any, are not likely to become public charges in the United States. The enclosed information sheet, Optional Form 167, lists evidence that may be presented to meet this requirement of law. If an affidavit of support is to be submitted, Form I-134 should be used.

MEDICAL EXAMINATION: Arrange for a medical examination with one of the physicians listed on the attached information sheet. You are responsible for the cost of the examination. A Medical examination is also required for each child who will accompany you.
 
I beg to differ

Ash 2013 said:
VISA INSTRUCTIONS FOR IMMIGRANT VISA APPLICANTS

This office has received a petition entitling you to immigrant visa classification as an alien proceeding to the United States. To prepare for your interview appointment with a consular officer, please read and follow carefully the instructions below.

FIRST: The total fee for an immigrant visa is U.S. $330 or the local currency equivalent. Each applicant must be prepared to pay this fee on the appointment date.

SECOND: All documents not in English, or in the official language of the country in which application for a visa is being made, must be accompanied by certified English translations. Translations must be certified by a competent translator and sworn to be before a Notary Public.
Obtain the following documents on this checklist which pertain to you. Do NOT send them to this office.


PASSPORT: A passport must be valid for travel to the United States and must have at least six months validity beyond the issuance date of the visa. Children may be included in a parent’s passport, but if over the age of 16, they must have their photograph attached to the passport or their own passport.

BIRTH CERTIFICATE: One certified copy of the birth certificate of each person named in the application is required. Birth records must be presented for all unmarried children under age 21, even if they are not applying for a visa at this time. The certificate must state the date and place of birth and names of both parents.

UNOBTAINABLE BIRTH CERTIFICATES: If an official birth certificate is not obtainable, present the best possible secondary evidence, such as a baptismal certificate, hospital certificate, school records and/or a notarized affidavit from your parents.

POLICE CERTIFICATES: Each applicant aged 16 years or over is required to submit a police certificate from the police authorities of each locality of the country of the applicant’s nationality or current residence where the applicant has resided for at least six months since attaining the age of sixteen. Police certificates are also required from all other countries where the applicant has resided at least one year. A police certificate must also be obtained from the police authorities of any place where the applicant has been arrested for any reason, regardless of the length of residence. Police certificates from certain countries are considered unobtainable. The consular office will advise you about any particular country.

COURT AND PRISON RECORDS: Persons convicted of a crime must obtain a certified copy of each court record and any prison record, regardless that they may have benefited from amnesty or pardon.

MILITARY RECORDS: A certified copy of any military record is required.

PHOTOGRAPHS: Two (2) photographs are required. The photographs must be a recent likeness, 2 by 2 inches in size, unmounted, with no head covering, and showing a full, front-face view against a light background. Either color or black and white photographs are acceptable. The applicant must sign (full name) the reverse side of each photograph.

MARRIAGE CERTIFICATES: If you were married previously, obtain one certified copy of your marriage certificate(s), and one certified copy of the divorce decree or death certificate to prove the dissolution of each such prior marriage.

EVIDENCE OF SUPPORT: Evidence that will show that you and your children, if any, are not likely to become public charges in the United States. The enclosed information sheet, Optional Form 167, lists evidence that may be presented to meet this requirement of law. If an affidavit of support is to be submitted, Form I-134 should be used.

MEDICAL EXAMINATION: Arrange for a medical examination with one of the physicians listed on the attached information sheet. You are responsible for the cost of the examination. A Medical examination is also required for each child who will accompany you.
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Ash 2013,I beg to differ.

The above doc is meant for family sponsored immigrants & when I google "VISA INSTRUCTIONS FOR IMMIGRANT VISA APPLICANTS ",google's first pick will refer u to the following link http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3190.html .That however that not preclude anyone from being required to come up with a means of supporting himself/herself while in the US by the CO(afaik).For safe measure,be prepared to come up with one if required to do so.

For DV selectees,there's no mention of such a document_ref:http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/visa_4756.html :all 4 pages do not mention anything regarding AOS documentation.Do note that they are not requiring any educational docs from non DV immigrants since its assumed that the petitioner will support them!!With regard to the DV,the petitioner in this case will be urself.

I think the reason they r not particularly insistent on AOS is ur DV qualifying criteria_which is work/education level.At least with either/both of these,one should be able to seek gainful employment & sustain onself and/or dependants.It is also highly unlikely that an immigrant would be so lazy such as to not seek employment/earn income since he/she would be deportable _ref #5:http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-5672.html

http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?56176-What-do-you-do-if-you-become-homeless
 
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Obeezyb said:
Ash 2013,I beg to differ.

The above doc is meant for family sponsored immigrants & when I google "VISA INSTRUCTIONS FOR IMMIGRANT VISA APPLICANTS ",google's first pick will refer u to the following link http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3190.html .That however that not preclude anyone from being required to come up with a means of supporting himself/herself while in the US by the CO(afaik).For safe measure,be prepared to come up with one if required to do so.

For DV selectees,there's no mention of such a document_ref:http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/visa_4756.html :all 4 pages do not mention anything regarding AOS documentation.Do note that they are not requiring any educational docs from non DV immigrants since its assumed that the petitioner will support them!!With regard to the DV,the petitioner in this case will be urself.

I think the reason they r not particularly insistent on AOS is ur DV qualifying criteria_which is work/education level.At least with either/both of these,one should be able to seek gainful employment & sustain onself and/or dependants.It is also highly unlikely that an immigrant would be so lazy such as to not seek employment/earn income since he/she would be deportable _ref #5:http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-5672.html

http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?56176-What-do-you-do-if-you-become-homeless
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Granted. But as I said, AOS is an option if you do not have any evidence of support at all from your country. The person you are going to live with can give you one. There is no instruction barring that. It's true DV guys are the petitioners but if some one has no evidence at all, then AOS can come in handy much as that person did not petition on your behalf. I believe that an ordinary letter promising to support you in the US might also work just like in visitor visa applications. But as you know, an Affidavit is a legal document compared to an ordinary letter. So DV guys are free to choose which ever evidence is within their disposal. It is better than going empty handed for the interviews.
 
Do not volunteer information to the CO

Carry all your documents including affidavits to the interview, however, do not submit documents that are not on the list unless specifically asked for. My friend's date of birth was different on her birth cert and on her passport and she had an affidavit verifying the mistake. The CO did not even notice. The person collecting the documents actually advised her not to tender any thing that had not been specifically asked for other wise it would jeopardise her case. She got the visa.
 
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