AR-11 for son on 3 month summer job

JoeF said:
Let me ask you a question: when you drive with your son in your car, do you always keep within the speed limit? That would be a much more important "good law abiding lesson".
It is very diffcult to prove wrong parking tickets for minuts/hours
Why do you even get parking tickets if you are such a law abiding person? Any parking ticket I ever got was completely deserved. I knew I parked wrong, and I accepted the ticket.
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Right question in wrong way how?
1- I follow POSTED LIMIT (AR-11) signs, son follows me.
2- If I follow, so you should think clean record (ticketless)
3- You got because you do not follow even signs, you accepted because there is no escape
4- Tell me it is good or bad to follow rules/signs.
5- If it is bad God Count me with you.
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The whole green card/h1 is based on a premise that no qualified American workers are available to do the job. Now how many of us really believe that the jobs we are doing are so unique that no Americans are qualified/willing?
Isn't that bending the law?
 
Opinion expressed by Assur is simple with a practical approach and for to be 'hasslefree'in future.
In addition expert lawyer has already provided his opinion.
Further the rule says:
Sec. 265. [8 U.S.C. 1305]


(a) Each alien required to be registered under this title who is within the United States shall notify the Attorney General in writing of each
**change of address and new address **
within ten days from the date of such change and furnish with such notice such additional information as the Attorney General may require by regulation.
(b) The Attorney General may in his discretion, upon ten days notice, require the natives of any one or more foreign states, or any class or group thereof, who are within the United States and who are required to be registered under this title, to notify the Attorney General of their current addresses and furnish such additional information as the Attorney General may require.
(c) In the case of an alien for whom a parent or legal guardian is required to apply for registration, the notice required by this section shall be given to such parent or legal guardian.
Also,one member who has discussed the issue at length here,in some other thread mentioned that about CIS law that as far as CIS,the burden proving the issue lies with the defendent.

Taking that back ground and as the above law doesn't explicitly say which circumumustance construes 'the so called change of address'when some body moves and any specified exclusions.Unless it is explicit,possibilty is that,some one can't be sure where he lands in this.
Filing frequent AR11 is a hasssle.But from the above
Does it explicitly infer anywhere in the context of the original poster's scanario,filing AR11 is Unnecssary?
Can somebody be sure that this 'unneessary' term wont't land somebody in potential problems?

From the above one can clearly see what to do and how to be peaceful for future.
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Not a legal opinion.
 
The thread is being unnecessarily dragged. Please move on to other important and pressing issues on this portal, you will find a lot of them.

I have always enjoyed and learned a lot from JoeF's posts and would hate to see him be less involved with this portal. He is an asset.

To be fair, at times JoeF might come off as condescending, but I am sure it’s not his intention.

It’s funny I always thought JoeF is ultra-conservative in his approach and it’s very interesting to see him dragged into this argument with his liberal response to a question. BTW, personally, in this scenario, I wouldn't worry about an AR-11 either.
 
JoeF said:
No, I make decisions by weighing the pros and cons, in this case following the law to the letter vs. the inconvenience of driving around searching for a legal parking spot, wasting gas and time.
Good, of course. My goal was only to point out that we all make decisions weighing the pros and cons, and nobody is holy enough to always follow the law.
I got blasted in this forum in the past for insisting that people have to carry the GC with them at all times. That's also in the law, and if I remember right, at least one of the people who got on this thread late (gb111) argued quite vehemently against me at that time.
So, are you carrying the GC with you at all times? I do.
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Here is the answer in your reply..
Gas, Time, Parking spot. You got rid of your "inconvenience" and caused or transferred to other. Su_gupta can avoid this, well prepared prior to approach.
An advanced system, AR-11 and or Special Registration is not for terrorists but designed after 911, as background. Why? collection of data, safety, security, decision, etc. both for cuntry and individuals. SU_Gupta would like to see his son, as individual, safe and secure.
You write "excellent" but they are victim of your "Cons", because you shifted your's inconvenience to them. Words are open sharp sword could kill other and yourself. You will accept, they will regret, we will appreciate.
You keep your GC in your pocket according to law, I really appreaciate and encourge you in future as well. gp111 is still waiting for.
 
JoeF said:
Special registration, yes, but AR-11, no. AR-11 has been in the law for decades. People just ignored it, either because of ignorance or because of the inconvenience. I first heard about AR-11 in 1998, although I have been here since 1994, and had moved since then.
Are you carrying your GC with you as well? You didn't answer that question.
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1- You are right.
2- Still struggling for GC.
Thanks for asking.
 
JoeF said:
Ok, got it. Good luck.
But actually, the law I mentioned is not limited to the GC.
It requires to carry "any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card" issued to a person (INA 264.)
For non-immigrants, the "certificate of alien registration" actually is the I-94. So you are required by law to carry your I-94 with you at all times. In the infamous "Texas raid" several years back people got arrested at their workplace simply because they didn't have their I-94 with them...
So, a variant of my question: do you carry your I-94 with you?
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Yes, I carry lot of things..
 
For the jerk called JoeF.

Who cares what you say idiot? I will go by what Rajiv Khanna says - you moron troll. Now SHUT UP.
 
JoeF said:
Ok, I'd like to summarize my views on this topic, which actually is not quite as liberal about the law as scarlethawk thought...

1. There is absolutely no doubt that an AR-11 has to be filed when a person's address changes.
2. The special situation with college kids is that they often have and maintain 2 addresses: their home address with their parents, and their college address.
I did when I went to college, and in my home country everybody has to register their addresses. The only thing to choose is which one is the primary and which one is the secondary address.
3. Unfortunately, the law only talks about address changes. It doesn't say anything about the case when a person has multiple addresses, and only one of the addresses changes.
4. It of course never hurts to file an AR-11 whenever either the primary or a secondary address changes.
5. If the primary address changes, an AR-11 should be filed.
6. I still maintain that it is not necessary to file an AR-11 when a secondary address changes, as long as the primary address stays the same (but of course, it doesn't hurt, either, see #4 above.)
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Conclusion:
Always carry WISDOM, that works definetly. QED
 
once again, JoeF, mind your manners first

JoeF said:
Missing in manner school, were we? Come back when you grow up.
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Didn't you just call me and a bunch of other people morons earlier in this thread? You're the one needing to grow up. Pronto.

Your entire existence on this portal is full of contradictory posts. I would call it a paradox, but frankly, you are not worthy of that distinction.

If you are in search of morons, find a mirror, and fast....
 
With no offense to JoeF, he seems to be getting a piece of his own vocabulary ;) JoeF is knowledgeable but his enthusiasm gets in the way when others interfere with their own findings. I am yet to know what a "troll", "herring", "killfile" is :confused:

Shall we close this subject here, learn from our mistakes and grow up!
 
All foreign nationals residing in the United States for more than thirty days, whether temporarily or permanently, must formally notify USCIS of "ANY CHANGES" to their home address.
 
JoeF said:
Sure. No doubt. In the case under discussion, though, the home address didn't change, neither temporarily nor permanently...
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So you finally woke up? Don't worry one day you will get the point.

P.S. Looks crazy - see he has a tendency to make last post - a psychological case. Troll Scale - 0.01/10 for JoeF. :D

Now we are again set for red herrings from JoeF and drivels too. Keep it up JoeF - you are doing my job - I want this thread to remain on top everyday so that people can read all,including Rajiv's post and judge you better. :D
 
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temporary address and AR-11

From USCIS site:

http://iss.csusb.edu/Webhelp/inscap.asp?page=insca&action=p

in re temporary address

"What Should I Include?
For the Form AR-11: Complete the information requested on the form, including present address, last address (most recent only), alien or registration number, country of citizenship, date of birth, and your signature
You do not need to include temporary addresses as long as you maintain your present address as your permanent residence and continue to receive mail there."

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AR-11 and temporary address

Sorry gave the wrong HttP previously:

http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/address.htm

What Should I Include?
For the Form AR-11: Complete the information requested on the form, including present address, last address (most recent only), alien or registration number, country of citizenship, date of birth, and your signature.

You do not need to include temporary addresses as long as you maintain your present address as your permanent residence and continue to receive mail there.
 
stonewall said:
Sorry gave the wrong HttP previously:

http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/address.htm

What Should I Include?
For the Form AR-11: Complete the information requested on the form, including present address, last address (most recent only), alien or registration number, country of citizenship, date of birth, and your signature.

You do not need to include temporary addresses as long as you maintain your present address as your permanent residence and continue to receive mail there.
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That is not uscis website. uscis website is www.uscis.gov. That is ISS of California State University.

Here is what Rajiv says:

http://www.immigrationportal.com/showpost.php?p=790030&postcount=79
 
For the jerk called JoeF

AjaySomani said:
Who cares what you say idiot? I will go by what Rajiv Khanna says - you moron troll. Now SHUT UP.
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Well said, Ajay. We need more sensible people like you and less idiots like JoeF here. Keep posting.
 
AR-11 and temporary address info at USCIS site

Please check at the USCIS site (I already apologized for my mistake in giving the wrong http, a minute ago)

So it is here: http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/address.htm and you will find these paragraphs:

What Should I Include?
For the Form AR-11: Complete the information requested on the form, including present address, last address (most recent only), alien or registration number, country of citizenship, date of birth, and your signature.

You do not need to include temporary addresses as long as you maintain your present address as your permanent residence and continue to receive mail there.
 
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