Any May filers around?

I am not trying to get into it with anyone. But since this is a forum I say this, and mind you I'm not attacking anyone, at least for now.

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I say and speak about anything. Don't it like then you leave. NO one will bully me off this forum and thread, don't care who started it. Not the Peas, not his friends. What I will do if try my best to respect every ones point of view. Have your say, if I think your wrong then I'll debate it, don't like it you leave, but I will still respect your views. Until you disrespect me.

As I tell my kids, and can't believe grown people do this crap here. With all the technology, computers and scanners. Fools are meeting people thinking they are friends, because we have conversations on a forum. DO NOT GIVE YOUR ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBERS TO STRANGERS. We are all strangers to each other never forget that. Plain stupid. I tell my kids this all of the time. Friends how the heck you became friends here? When someone start stalking you, that's on you. Trust no one. Friends and you are the smart ones.
 
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Well, constructus, I believe Lou Dobbs is holding the Mexican government (not its people) responsible, but I don't know enough about the Mexican government myself so I can't speak to that one.

I'm not helping Praetorian, rather asking you to stop personally attacking others, and if anything I wouldn't defend Praetorian because he's my bud but because I share the same views as he about specific subjects you addressed.

Email doesn't allow for quite the same interactivity, and I do think our overarching goal (but not necessarily only topic) is to discuss, learn about, teach about immigration and new immigrant matters. Coming back to the May filers thread is part of my side hobby of coming back to the Family Based Green Cards subforum in general; I have slightly different standards and objectives when posting in this thread vs. other threads where individuals are actively seeking specific information and I'm sure you appreciate the distinction too.

We've only begun discussing politics and our views here based on your urging, constructus. I think individuals who come to read this forum understand it's original objective (when we all filed, waited, etc.) and its changing objective (to share information relevant after LPR status, and to help those who are still stuck in name check). I'm sure the May filers thread objective will keep changing over time and with a little luck, we'll all find each other again here when it comes time for I-751 questions.

Do you mean to suggest that our activity takes away or distracts from the helping/assisting/guiding nature in other parts of this sub-forum? I would hope it does not.

I think I begin to understand your frustration with this, though. When I first came here and looked into let's say the February/March filer's threads they discussed issues far beyond what I considered important, important to me at the time. My solution was to not really follow those threads and stick with the like-minded folks of the May filers thread.
 
well well well , Constructus , a friendly advise , please do not waste your precious time over Praetorian , he is a clown who thinks that he knows everything about immigration and thinks he can speak with authority on the subject of immigration , well he remains an unqualified photographer , so please do not waste your time arguing with him.

As for Lou Dobbs who is so anti-immigrant , he should actually see where his fore father's came from , Lou Dobb's only gained american citizenship because of his fore father's , Mr Lou Dobbs ,if he has studied american history in school ie if he ever went to a school , must know only the Red Indians were the original natives of this country , all others are IMMIGRANTS.
 
Amen, where have you been. I tell Mr. P all time to a take a picture and get a life. He did , but you could not see his face. All I saw was him show off the little white card holder that his little shinny GC came in, of cause his ugly mug was behind it. So therefore his so call friends could not see what his face looked like. I don't know how anyone can stand this guy. Peace out. If yall don't like it, you know what to (kiss)
 
Does any1 know ?

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well well well , Constructus , a friendly advise , please do not waste your precious time over Praetorian , he is a clown who thinks that he knows everything about immigration and thinks he can speak with authority on the subject of immigration , well he remains an unqualified photographer , so please do not waste your time arguing with him.

As for Lou Dobbs who is so anti-immigrant , he should actually see where his fore father's came from , Lou Dobb's only gained american citizenship because of his fore father's , Mr Lou Dobbs ,if he has studied american history in school ie if he ever went to a school , must know only the Red Indians were the original natives of this country , all others are IMMIGRANTS.
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DOBBS' wife is an immigrant ..GO FIGURE, he's one confused soul !!!
 
I suggest we stop personal attacks, please. There's a clear difference between discussing our views on immigration vs. negatively commenting on our competence in our jobs, what we do with our lives etc. ... you may want to read the disclaimer in bold bright read at the top of the forums to see that this is clearly not tolerated here.

As for Lou Dobbs, if I haven't reiterated it well enough, he is not anti-immigrant and I'd challenge you to find evidence for me that he is.
 
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I suggest we stop personal attacks, please. There's a clear difference between discussing our views on immigration vs. negatively commenting on our competence in our jobs, what we do with our lives etc. ... you may want to read the disclaimer in bold bright read at the top of the forums to see that this is clearly not tolerated here.

As for Lou Dobbs, if I haven't reiterated it well enough, he is not anti-immigrant and I'd challenge you to find evidence for me that he is.
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Watch his show, 90% percent of his show is about immigrants. Legall or Illegal he's a Hater, period. BTW It may seem some of us personally attact Master Pea, but he is a big boy and he can handle himself, he has put himself out there with is negative and rude comments himself, we are not picking on him just to do it, maybe he should be the one to read the bold red disclaimer. I have no problem with you, so lets leave it at that. Let him handle him please, I understand you are "friends" and I'll respect that, but that's as far as i'll go. I do not like him and he's feeling is the same for me and that's just the way I like it.
 
A fair amount of Lou Dobbs' show is about illegal immigration. I have never seen a segment on his show critizising legal immigrants.

Saying Lou Dobbs hates immigrants is like saying someone who disapproves of illegal activity that some people engage in hates "people."

I hope you would still respect my point of view that I don't like personal attacks in general. But that said, your own words are your own responsbility and you can do as you please. If it helps you vent your frustrations and helps you relax, I understand.
 
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A fair amount of Lou Dobbs' show is about illegal immigration. I have never seen a segment on his show critizising legal immigrants.

Saying Lou Dobbs hates immigrants is like saying someone who disapproves of illegal activity that some people engage in hates "people."

I hope you would still respect my point of view that I don't like personal attacks in general. But that said, your own words are your own responsbility and you can do as you please. If it helps you vent your frustrations and helps you relax, I understand.
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Let's agree to disagree, ok he hates the illegal immigrants situation. Still a hater in my book anyone who praise the minitue men and make his main topic of his show about illegals day in and day out is a hater, you can also hear it in his voice. But that is my view and not yours, so we will agree to disagree. But that does not mean I am going to disrespect you. You are pationate about it and so am I, have been Illegals for 20 years no I didn't cross the boarder but that's what I've been for 20 years I have kids, so I guess you would like to throw me out. But I'm not going to get into it with you.

And about my own word being my resoponsbility and I can do as I please, you are so right. So why stand up for a person who his always thinking he I the King of this forum. I never seen you saying thing when he's being rude. And if you say you have not seen him do those things, then so be it, and would see why Lou Hobbs would be your hero. Thanks for posting back to me it was nice, I love to debate with people, when it's done it done. So I'm done. auf Wiedersehen!". ;)
 
Who's Lou Dobbs? and before someone asks me to google it (or ask.com it) my point is: These shady characters thrive on conflict and are effective only in the degree in which people listen to (or watch, or read ) them, so I just ignore them, the same way I ignore certain shows, news, stations, postings, etc that do nothing more than to vomit the product of their pre-conceived notions and ideas instead of presenting the facts objectively. But what I came to see in these thread is how the May folks are doing, and it seems like slowly but surely they are finally getting their GC's, so there is hope for us Julyers... peace :)
 
JMG1010, Lou Dobbs is the anchor of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight which often features segments on illegal immigration, outsourcing of jobs, foreign imports, trade deficits.

trinigirl, for the record I would not like you thrown out but adjusted to a legal status, if one is appropriate. And it looks like you're already working on that so we have something we agree on. :)
 
I wish you a safe trip too, MagdaJ. When you're back, watch out our new trains might already be running. (they'll cross intersections initially at only 20 mph though :D).

I guess the Guide will make for good reading material for a long flight. I believe Praetorian uses these guys as delivery service. ;)
 
Thanks guys for wishing me a safe trip, I hope it it will be safe.
Have a great week! I am going spend it already in Poland. :)
 
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I wish you a safe trip too, MagdaJ. When you're back, watch out our new trains might already be running. (they'll cross intersections initially at only 20 mph though :D).

I guess the Guide will make for good reading material for a long flight. I believe Praetorian uses these guys as delivery service. ;)
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Austriacus I found the real Lou Hobbs, I hope you can have a laugh on my behalf. Tell me what you think LOL
 
Austriacus, do you see my initial point now? People who expect coming to find timelines from previous months to have a general idea of how things work, now have to skip through the BS you guys were talking about, the BS answers I gave you, the fighting and arguing, and now LOU DOBBS?

Why? because this wasn't a forum in my view to express those views.

As for the personal attacks, don't be blinded by your friendship: be objective.

Always go back to the facts. You had been insinuating something for a few of your posts (I could tell) when finally in your post 2261 (of this thread) you finally let it out. You were bothered about how Sapnish is becoming too predominant in the US and how Speaking English is Being punished.

I replied in 2262 that I thought that you "resembled" Lou Dobbs because that is his rhetoric. You admitted that Mr Dobbs was one of your idols. So I was right I did not attack you. I could tell what were your feelings.

A cordial discussion ensued.

Then Mr. P. came in because he feels he is the good Hispanic of the US so, I advise you to go back to Mr. P's post in 2268, and tell me who started attacking who and started being disrespectful?

My problem with Dobbs is that he is racist. When Dobbs talks about illegal immigration, he is talking about Mexican Immigration. He blames everything on the Mexicans. Whether a Mexican commits a crime he seems to be 100 times more shocked than if a US citizen commits the same crime.

To me a crime is a crime.

Now the question of TOO many things being in Spanish is something I think is regrettable, because this is the US and the language is ENGLISH. Learning that language is a good means of financial and professional success here, as well as integration to the system. Now that's my point of view, but I shouldn't express it here on an immigration forum. There are other forums for that.

You guys could have done the same and PM'ed each other for all your personal stuff.

Now the fact that I am not Spanish, Latino, or Mexican (French is my second language: I am bilingual), does not mean that I will stay there and let a whole population be insulted and treated as such.

You seem to be a nice guy. You help on this forum a lot. I read all your tax info (I am more of an econ/finance/accnting guy myself), which I must say is linked to specific immigration related questions that some people have. Thus its very relevant and educational.

Thank you for that. I do not recall any sarcasm and meanness coming from you usually. But your BUDY is famous for that here.

The sad thing is I know that deep down you know he is not right, but the MONTH OF MAY has created a bond that "blinds" you.
 
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